Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

[pleaseforgiveme]

You don't know that! Why do you spew HATRED for Israel like the Devil?

This may have something to do with it-----
I Googled “Israelis killing children”
About 537,000 results (0.39 seconds)
Search Results
These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016 | The ...
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/.../these-are-palestinian-children-killed-israel-2016

Thirty-five Palestinian children were killed by Israeli soldiers, police and armed civilians during the year, all but four of the deadly incidents ...
Invisible killings: Israel's daily toll of Palestinian children | The ...
https://electronicintifada.net/content/invisible-killings-israels-daily-toll...children/4263

Convincing the Israeli adults in control of this weaponry in civilian areas that they should not be using it to kill children who are merely stone throwers should not ...
Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months | News | Al Jazeera
www.aljazeera.com/.../israel-killed-25-palestinian-children-months-16051414083314...

Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was ...
One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years ...
One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years: statistics...
“The International Day for the Protection of Children is on June 1,” said a spokesman, “but Palestinian children are still subject to attacks by the Israelis and ...
Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000 – Middle ...
Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000...

Israel has killed more than 3,000 children since 28 September 2000 when the Second Intifada began until the end of April 2017, a new report ...
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia

Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict refers to the impact of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict .... Though Israeli children were killed in the conflict during the decades prior, the first acts of
12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service
IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and dead while buying candy with her friends.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old school children were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.

Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

 

[pleaseforgiveme]

Says Hamas troll!

Oh poop baby, have I hurt your feelings?
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[Jack]

This may have something to do with it-----
I Googled “Israelis killing children”
About 537,000 results (0.39 seconds)
Search Results
These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016 | The ...
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/.../these-are-palestinian-children-killed-israel-2016

Thirty-five Palestinian children were killed by Israeli soldiers, police and armed civilians during the year, all but four of the deadly incidents ...
Invisible killings: Israel's daily toll of Palestinian children | The ...
https://electronicintifada.net/content/invisible-killings-israels-daily-toll...children/4263

Convincing the Israeli adults in control of this weaponry in civilian areas that they should not be using it to kill children who are merely stone throwers should not ...
Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months | News | Al Jazeera
www.aljazeera.com/.../israel-killed-25-palestinian-children-months-16051414083314...

Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was ...
One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years ...
One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years: statistics...
“The International Day for the Protection of Children is on June 1,” said a spokesman, “but Palestinian children are still subject to attacks by the Israelis and ...
Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000 – Middle ...
Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000...

Israel has killed more than 3,000 children since 28 September 2000 when the Second Intifada began until the end of April 2017, a new report ...
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia

Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict refers to the impact of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict .... Though Israeli children were killed in the conflict during the decades prior, the first acts of
12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service
IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and dead while buying candy with her friends.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old school children were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.

Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Says the Hamas troll!

 

[Jack]

Oh poop baby, have I hurt your feelings?
-

No, I just feel sorry for you when you stand before Jesus, the God of Israel on Judgment Day.

 

[pleaseforgiveme]

No, I just feel sorry for you when you stand before Jesus, the God of Israel on Judgment Day.

This is what the God of Israel believes, in His Own Words​

25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,

27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:

29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end.

30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity.

31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.

32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

 

[pleaseforgiveme]

No, I just feel sorry for you when you stand before Jesus, the God of Israel on Judgment Day.

Did you know that at the time, the local Rabi’s in Jerusalem made a deal with the occupying Romans, that if they crucify Jesus the Jews will end their siege on the Jewish population?
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[Jack]

Did you know that at the time, the local Rabi’s in Jerusalem made a deal with the occupying Romans, that if they crucify Jesus the Jews will end their siege on the Jewish population?
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Did YOU know that Jesus is the God of Israel?

 

[bluedragon]

You make a very, very poor liar.

In my opinion, the MOSSAD should stop wasting their money on the likes of you.

Now this is just my opinion

No animosity intended or implied.​

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I use foreign news sites ....You and your pet Dad use National news sources. .....Huge differences ...... Pity, crawl into bed with the Satanic intent of the Jew haters of the world.

Israel is using smart bombs on the strikes against Hamas. See a building .....building gone. That building alone. Israel uses smart mortars. There is no carpet bombing .....but you two go ahead and believe the crap you are told.

Israel has taken three hospitals now. The truth will be revealed to the world ......But you two want to murder Jews.

 

[bluedragon]

Did you know that at the time, the local Rabi’s in Jerusalem made a deal with the occupying Romans, that if they crucify Jesus the Jews will end their siege on the Jewish population?
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You have a screw loose. Jesus was crucified in 33AD. Israel was occupied. There was no siege at that time period.

Calling people liars, when you cannot get your facts straight .....Let's give you a history lesson.

Ceasar 33AD Dresus Ceasar. NO SEIGE

Nero, Galba......

So, who were the local Rabbi supposedly negotiating with? They are Pharisees and Sadducees, each identified.

King Herod rules other than the house of Pontius Pilate ......33AD
Your lie is taking it's toll .......

Jesus dies and is resurrected then ascends into heaven ...Odd, we have over 500 witnesses of his ascension .......yet a mythical religion written hundreds of years later tells us Mohammad who is buried and we know where his tomb is .......rode his horse and leapt into Heaven. AND NO ONE WAS THERE TO SEE HIM LEAVE.
He was in his casket at home, where he is buried ....

After the defeat of two legions ......the Siege of Jerusalem begins in 66AD. Sort of a half hearted affair .....The second of the two legions is defeated. The walls of Jerusalem fall in 70AD It doesn't take Rome 4 years to get inside ......Rome wasn't interested until the second legion fell.

.....so, according to your fiction the Rabbi's, (not the leaders of the religion) negotiate for no siege ....that takes place 33 years later? Bring your source up ......you look like the fool that Dad is ....

Truth is that the Romans didn't do a good job at getting into Jerusalem. Actually The differing factions of the Jews defeated themselves .....When you've destroyed your food and water sources within the walls ......not going to last long at all ..They are eating unborn babies when first walls fell.

 

[bluedragon]

This is what happens when these two lie ........Their lies turn on them.

CNN report 2014 .......Hamas is using the hospitals of Gaza as staging centers for their military planning and hardware storage.

My wife is an RN. It must have been interesting to know that the items stored against the walls of patient rooms and operating theaters were suicide vest munitions ....

White House and Pentagon say Hamas using Gaza's largest hospital to store weapons and support operations

Israel says its forces are carrying out a "precise and targeted operation" at the Al-Shifa Hospital. Israel has claimed the hospital, the largest in the Gaza Strip, includes a Hamas command center, an allegation denied by hospital officials and Hamas.

www.cnn.com

Now, tell me lies ......

 

[pleaseforgiveme]

Israel is a racist society.
the·oc·ra·cy
/THēˈäkrəsē/
nounnoun: theocracy; plural noun: theocracies

a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.
"his ambition is to lead a worldwide theocracy"
the commonwealth of Israel from the time of Moses until the election of Saul as king.
What Is Theocracy? Definition and Examples

 

[pleaseforgiveme]

Israel has taken three hospitals now. The truth will be revealed to the world ......But you two want to murder Jews.

Personally, I have nothing against the Jewish people and do not want any of them murdered.

The only true murderers are the Zionist living in Israel.

The IDF has used IDF snipers to assassinate dozens, upon dozens of Palestinian children. They are evil.
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[bluedragon]

Personally, I have nothing against the Jewish people and do not want any of them murdered.

The only true murderers are the Zionist living in Israel.

The IDF has used IDF snipers to assassinate dozens, upon dozens of Palestinian children. They are evil.View attachment 38081
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Absolute in your hatred for the Jews......Lying to try to forward your myths .....tripped you up. Never expected a history lesson to provide the truth to your lies .....You are the problem.

 

[Jack]

Israel is a racist society.
the·oc·ra·cy
/THēˈäkrəsē/
nounnoun: theocracy; plural noun: theocracies

a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.
"his ambition is to lead a worldwide theocracy"
the commonwealth of Israel from the time of Moses until the election of Saul as king.
What Is Theocracy? Definition and Examples

Remember you said that when you stand before Jesus, the God of Israel. He will.

 

[Jack]

Personally, I have nothing against the Jewish people and do not want any of them murdered.

LOL!!!

The only true murderers are the Zionist living in Israel.

The IDF has used IDF snipers to assassinate dozens, upon dozens of Palestinian children. They are evil.View attachment 38081
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God bless Israel! And He will!

 

[Triumph1300]

I thought this link might be of interest to some forum members:

How trolls are born: The psychology of internet trolling and why they are everywhere - Power of Zero

Internet trolling can have devastating psychological impacts on its victims, so what leads someone to engage in cyber violence? We speak to Dr Gareth Tyson, a leading researcher on the dark side of the Internet to find out. What is […]

powerof0.org

 

[dad]

(Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he swore unto thy fathers:

(Deu 7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kin, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

"in the land which he swore unto thy fathers to give thee"​

The above means that God did not give the land to them yet. They must first earn this gift.

I think the main thing is that they accept Jesus and say Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord

 

[pleaseforgiveme]

You have a screw loose. Jesus was crucified in 33AD. Israel was occupied. There was no siege at that time period.

The following is a long read but it is needed to show the true story as it is----
During this period Jerusalem was under the rule of the Romans which the local community strongly rejected.

When the great revolt against the pagan Romans and their collaborators (66-74 AD) finally occurred, it began among the Galileans.
That the World May Know | Rabbi and Talmidim

in Palestine there were a number of occasions when more restless elements in the population resisted Roman abuses and followed the tradition of “zealousness for the Law.” under the Romans (ruled 37-4 B.C.E.). Herod surrounded himself with Greek scholars and undertook many building projects, including a magnificent and fortified palace. He rebuilt the Temple in Jerusalem.
Before he died, Jesus of Nazareth was born.

Life for the Jews under the procurators was exceedingly difficult. This protrait is confirmed by the Jewish historian Josephus who chronicled a number of events that provoked the Jews under Pilate and other procurators, leading to riots, beatings, and executions.
Jewish rebellion against Roman rule in Judaea. The revolt was preceded by years of clashes between Jews and Romans in the area.
Bar Kokhba Revolt | History & Facts | Britannica

The history of the Jews in the Roman Empire
Rebellion in Judaea
Although Judaea was ruled by the Romans, the governors there had practiced the same kind of religious tolerance as was shown to Jews in Rome.

In 66 AD, this discontent exploded into open rebellion. Four years later, the Roman army had crushed the revolt, but had also destroyed the temple. The sacred treasures were seized and shown off in a procession through the streets of Rome.
The Roman Empire: in the First Century. The Roman Empire. Jews In Roman Times | PBS

The history of Palestine is the study of the past in the region of Palestine, defined as the territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.

In the late 2nd century BCE, the semi-independent Hasmonean kingdom conquered most of Palestine but the kingdom gradually became a vassal of Rome, which annexed Palestine in 63 BCE. Roman rule was troubled by Jewish rebellions, which Rome answered with by destroying the Jews' temple.
History of Palestine - Wikipedia

The crucifixion of Jesus occurred in 1st-century Judea, most likely in either AD 30 or AD 33. According to the canonical gospels Jesus was arrested and tried by the Sanhedrin, and then sentenced by Pontius Pilate to be scourged, and finally crucified by the Romans.

Collectively referred to as the Passion, Jesus' suffering and redemptive death by crucifixion are the central aspects of Christian theology concerning the doctrines of salvation and atonement.
Crucifixion of Jesus - Wikipedia

In the canonical gospels, Pilate's court refers to the trial of Jesus in praetorium before Pontius Pilate, preceded by the Sanhedrin Trial. In the Gospel of Luke, Pilate finds that Jesus, being from Galilee, belonged to Herod Antipas' jurisdiction, and so he decides to send Jesus to Herod. After questioning Jesus and receiving very few replies, Herod sees Jesus as no threat and returns him to Pilate.

At the time Jerusalem was part of Roman Judea, the charges of the Sanhedrin against Jesus held no power before Pilate. From the three charges brought by the Pharisees leaders (perverting the nation, forbidding the payment of tribute, and sedition against the Roman Empire), Pilate picks up on the third one, asking: "Are you the King of the Jews?". Jesus replies with "You have said so". Then the hearing continues, and Pilate finally asks Jesus "What is truth?". This was said after learning that Jesus did not wish to claim any terrestrial kingdom. He was therefore not a political threat and could be seen as innocent of such a charge. [Jn. 18:36]

Stepping back outside, Pilate publicly declared that he found no basis to charge Jesus,
Pilate's court - Wikipedia

Early in the morning the chief priests and elders planned to have Jesus executed.

Thirty pieces of silver was the price for which Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus, according to an account in the Gospel of Matthew 26:15 in the New Testament. Before the Last Supper, Judas is said to have gone to the chief priests and agreed to hand over Jesus in exchange for 30 silver coins, and to have attempted to return the money afterwards, filled with remorse.

Pilate explained the amnesty vote and asked: 'Do you want me to release 'the king of the Jews'?'

Pilate had Jesus flogged. Soldiers put a crown of thorns and purple robe on Jesus, hit his face and mocked him saying: 'Hail, king of the Jews!'

Chief priests and officials shouted: 'Crucify! Crucify!' Pilate: 'Go ahead and crucify him. I [Pilate] myself find no guilt in him.' Jewish leaders: 'Our law says he must die because he claimed to be the Son of God.'

Pilate, afraid, interrogated Jesus inside. Jesus: 'You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.' Pilate tried to set Jesus free.

Jewish leaders [Rabbis]: 'If you let him go, you disobey Caesar. Anyone who claims to be a king opposes Caesar.'

Pilate brought out Jesus around noon, saying: 'Here is your king.' They shouted: 'Take him away, crucify him!'

Pilate: 'Shall I crucify your king?' Chief priests: 'We have no king but Caesar.'

Pilate handed Jesus over to them for crucifixion.

Early in the morning Jesus was taken to Pilate by the Jewish leaders, who refused to enter the praetorium to stay ceremonially clean for Passover.

Pilate, outside: 'I find no guilt in him.'

Jesus is generally quiet, does not mount a defense, and rarely responds to the accusations, and is found guilty of various offenses: violating the Sabbath law (by healing on the Sabbath), threatening to destroy the Jewish Temple, practicing sorcery, exorcising people by the power of demons, and claiming to be the Messiah. He is then taken to Pontius Pilate, the governor of Roman Judaea, to be tried for claiming to be the King of the Jews.
Sanhedrin trial of Jesus - Wikipedia

Jewish tradition and texts portray the Sanhedrin to be an established court [all of them were rabbis], based in Jerusalem with strict guidelines on how to function.

Thereafter, in Pilate's Court, the Jewish elders [Rabbis] ask Pontius Pilate to judge and condemn Jesus, accusing him of claiming to be the King of the Jews. Such a claim would be considered treasonous, for being a direct challenge to the Roman authorities.

In conclusion, after reviewing all the available written facts concerning Jesus Christ, I find overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ did not die for our sins but was murdered by the Romans, at the request of the local Rabbis in Jerusalem and in return, the revolt against the Roman occupation would stop.

After reviewing all the evidence, I could find, the above is my conclusion.

Agree with it or disagree-?

 

[bluedragon]

Why do the two biggest trolls and liars come on this board to spread more trash?

The following is a long read but it is needed to show the true story as it is----
During this period Jerusalem was under the rule of the Romans which the local community strongly rejected.

When the great revolt against the pagan Romans and their collaborators (66-74 AD) finally occurred, it began among the Galileans.
That the World May Know | Rabbi and Talmidim

in Palestine there were a number of occasions when more restless elements in the population resisted Roman abuses and followed the tradition of “zealousness for the Law.” under the Romans (ruled 37-4 B.C.E.). Herod surrounded himself with Greek scholars and undertook many building projects, including a magnificent and fortified palace. He rebuilt the Temple in Jerusalem.
Before he died, Jesus of Nazareth was born.

Life for the Jews under the procurators was exceedingly difficult. This protrait is confirmed by the Jewish historian Josephus who chronicled a number of events that provoked the Jews under Pilate and other procurators, leading to riots, beatings, and executions.
Jewish rebellion against Roman rule in Judaea. The revolt was preceded by years of clashes between Jews and Romans in the area.
Bar Kokhba Revolt | History & Facts | Britannica

The history of the Jews in the Roman Empire
Rebellion in Judaea
Although Judaea was ruled by the Romans, the governors there had practiced the same kind of religious tolerance as was shown to Jews in Rome.

In 66 AD, this discontent exploded into open rebellion. Four years later, the Roman army had crushed the revolt, but had also destroyed the temple. The sacred treasures were seized and shown off in a procession through the streets of Rome.
The Roman Empire: in the First Century. The Roman Empire. Jews In Roman Times | PBS

The history of Palestine is the study of the past in the region of Palestine, defined as the territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.

In the late 2nd century BCE, the semi-independent Hasmonean kingdom conquered most of Palestine but the kingdom gradually became a vassal of Rome, which annexed Palestine in 63 BCE. Roman rule was troubled by Jewish rebellions, which Rome answered with by destroying the Jews' temple.
History of Palestine - Wikipedia

The crucifixion of Jesus occurred in 1st-century Judea, most likely in either AD 30 or AD 33. According to the canonical gospels Jesus was arrested and tried by the Sanhedrin, and then sentenced by Pontius Pilate to be scourged, and finally crucified by the Romans.

Collectively referred to as the Passion, Jesus' suffering and redemptive death by crucifixion are the central aspects of Christian theology concerning the doctrines of salvation and atonement.
Crucifixion of Jesus - Wikipedia

In the canonical gospels, Pilate's court refers to the trial of Jesus in praetorium before Pontius Pilate, preceded by the Sanhedrin Trial. In the Gospel of Luke, Pilate finds that Jesus, being from Galilee, belonged to Herod Antipas' jurisdiction, and so he decides to send Jesus to Herod. After questioning Jesus and receiving very few replies, Herod sees Jesus as no threat and returns him to Pilate.

At the time Jerusalem was part of Roman Judea, the charges of the Sanhedrin against Jesus held no power before Pilate. From the three charges brought by the Pharisees leaders (perverting the nation, forbidding the payment of tribute, and sedition against the Roman Empire), Pilate picks up on the third one, asking: "Are you the King of the Jews?". Jesus replies with "You have said so". Then the hearing continues, and Pilate finally asks Jesus "What is truth?". This was said after learning that Jesus did not wish to claim any terrestrial kingdom. He was therefore not a political threat and could be seen as innocent of such a charge. [Jn. 18:36]

Stepping back outside, Pilate publicly declared that he found no basis to charge Jesus,
Pilate's court - Wikipedia

Early in the morning the chief priests and elders planned to have Jesus executed.

Thirty pieces of silver was the price for which Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus, according to an account in the Gospel of Matthew 26:15 in the New Testament. Before the Last Supper, Judas is said to have gone to the chief priests and agreed to hand over Jesus in exchange for 30 silver coins, and to have attempted to return the money afterwards, filled with remorse.

Pilate explained the amnesty vote and asked: 'Do you want me to release 'the king of the Jews'?'

Pilate had Jesus flogged. Soldiers put a crown of thorns and purple robe on Jesus, hit his face and mocked him saying: 'Hail, king of the Jews!'

Chief priests and officials shouted: 'Crucify! Crucify!' Pilate: 'Go ahead and crucify him. I [Pilate] myself find no guilt in him.' Jewish leaders: 'Our law says he must die because he claimed to be the Son of God.'

Pilate, afraid, interrogated Jesus inside. Jesus: 'You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.' Pilate tried to set Jesus free.

Jewish leaders [Rabbis]: 'If you let him go, you disobey Caesar. Anyone who claims to be a king opposes Caesar.'

Pilate brought out Jesus around noon, saying: 'Here is your king.' They shouted: 'Take him away, crucify him!'

Pilate: 'Shall I crucify your king?' Chief priests: 'We have no king but Caesar.'

Pilate handed Jesus over to them for crucifixion.

Early in the morning Jesus was taken to Pilate by the Jewish leaders, who refused to enter the praetorium to stay ceremonially clean for Passover.

Pilate, outside: 'I find no guilt in him.'

Jesus is generally quiet, does not mount a defense, and rarely responds to the accusations, and is found guilty of various offenses: violating the Sabbath law (by healing on the Sabbath), threatening to destroy the Jewish Temple, practicing sorcery, exorcising people by the power of demons, and claiming to be the Messiah. He is then taken to Pontius Pilate, the governor of Roman Judaea, to be tried for claiming to be the King of the Jews.
Sanhedrin trial of Jesus - Wikipedia

Jewish tradition and texts portray the Sanhedrin to be an established court [all of them were rabbis], based in Jerusalem with strict guidelines on how to function.

Thereafter, in Pilate's Court, the Jewish elders [Rabbis] ask Pontius Pilate to judge and condemn Jesus, accusing him of claiming to be the King of the Jews. Such a claim would be considered treasonous, for being a direct challenge to the Roman authorities.

In conclusion, after reviewing all the available written facts concerning Jesus Christ, I find overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ did not die for our sins but was murdered by the Romans, at the request of the local Rabbis in Jerusalem and in return, the revolt against the Roman occupation would stop.

After reviewing all the evidence, I could find, the above is my conclusion.

Agree with it or disagree-?

I'm not going to read your lengthy example of trash. You lied, falsifying the history of the fall of Jerusalem ....You continue the lie today, by posting one sided press releases by the Palestinian Press .......why should I give you the time of day to do nothing more than spread falsehoods concerning the Palestinians? There are always two sides to every press release and most often ......your version is full of holes.

You misrepresented dates of the siege of Jerusalem, didn't get the Caesars right and even messed up of the death of Jesus in the process. You don't have any credibility. It's over, you have nothing to offer.

You are inept .....no knowledge of fact or history comparison with the Bible ....It would be a waste of time to correct every mistake you make along the way. You have no idea of the education of the people you started the lie with. How many University Courses have you taken to obtain a degree that includes religious studies? Your answer is none. Otherwise you wouldn't have erred in your introduction .......you would have known you were over 30 years off after the death and resurrection of Jesus. You are barking up the wrong tree, trying to now justify your shortcomings in the original lie ....You were caught and I called your bluff. You have no idea about Roman Law or culture of the time and simply miss the culture of the Jews ....

 

[bluedragon]

It's simple .....go back to your original statement claiming that Jesus was pushed to crucifixion
so that the "Rabbi's" Could convince the Romans to not lay siege to Jerusalem.

Apologize for the false claim, then let's debate ....

Until you and Dad can admit that Hamas uses Hospitals as human shields and supposed apartment complexes to protect themselves from Israeli strikes ......you are not being just in the awkward claims either of you make. Hamas leaders were found to be within those complexes along with communications and they were destroyed to open avenues to the invasion .......In other words ...Like the US News Media, you should take everything said with a grain of salt and study the resources and backgrounds available to that news.......you'll find it's peppered with false narratives. Maybe you two should sit down and actually study the video images of modern warfare .......There is no such thing as "Carpet Bombing anymore unless it's decided to take out and entire city ....smart bombs destroy the intended target, this is not Dresden anymore, not Berlin, not Tokyo .....

You have no further look than the tapes of the imbedded AP Reporter on the back of a motorcycle holding a hand grenade in his hands. The news media is complicit in the fraud. His ethics should have dictated that he reveal his sources and exactly what he did with that grenade. You can't look at this with a CNN only source, an AP only source .....what makes you think that anything reported by Palestine Government Sources controlled by Hamas is anywhere near accurate? You can't ....Yet you do ...