Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

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I had a real devasting realization as i read this . And no it was not what YOU wrote .
IT was this .
You wrote i am a girl the last time i checked . and yet this ever growing many gender fluid generation
had called you a hater . Pretty sad huh .
But allow me to now remind us all . THERE IS ONLY TWO sexes . MALE and FEMALE .
and what GOD created you in the womb IS WHAT YOU ARE to the TOMB . GOD dont make mistakes .
But i assure us all the devil can and the devil will LIE .
Well Amigo...no gender problems here.
I'm ALWAYS a girl !


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I don't know how you think of it, but the word "office" (Greek - praxis) in new testament is simply the work (function) of a spiritual gift.........it isn't talking about an "official" role in a formally recognized kind of way, but is talking about a spiritual gift and its particular work as opposed to other spiritual gifts.
I just wrote what God said. And I'm not answering the four posts against me that you liked. I didn't. It appears what I said went to deaf ears.
 

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Believing Paul was in the wrong.......wow that is some slippery slope there. And Episkopos agrees with that. Noted. And I hope others take note as well.
I also don't like how Peter chose Mathias as an Apostle, instead of letting Jesus choose His own Apostles. Paul is who Jesus chose.
 
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I also don't like how Peter chose Mathias as an Apostle, instead of letting Jesus choose His own Apostles. Paul is who Jesus chose.
1 Corinthians 15:3-7 KJV
3) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5) And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6) After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7) After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.

Paul acknowledged "the twelve", that is, including Matthias.

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1 Corinthians 15:3-7 KJV
3) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5) And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6) After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7) After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.

Paul acknowledged "the twelve", that is, including Matthias.

Much love!
Interesting. Matthias wasn't bargained for until after Jesus had already asscended when there were still only eleven. Even Judas was dead.
 
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I also don't like how Peter chose Mathias as an Apostle, instead of letting Jesus choose His own Apostles. Paul is who Jesus chose.
They chose Matthias by lot....which was a way of putting it in God's hands to choose.

I'm not sure most of us are qualified to criticize what the Apostles did....it's above our station. It took another apostle (Paul) to rebuke Peter.
 
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Interesting. Matthias wasn't bargained for until after Jesus had already asscended when there were still only eleven. Even Judas was dead.
Matthias was with them in the group of disciples. This was a requirment for him to be selected. He was a witness to everything that had happened.

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I just wrote what God said. And I'm not answering the four posts against me that you liked. I didn't. It appears what I said went to deaf ears.
Sister, there was so much wrong with your post I didn't know where to start. I decided to comment on one thing you mentioned about the office of a teacher, and was going to wait on the Lord for whether or what to say concerning the rest. Amigo tackled one aspect, which I agreed with - it was not four strikes "against" you, so to speak, only one.

If we call anything written by Paul into question then that leaves the entire new testament open to question as potentially not being inspired. Is that what you and Epi believe?
 
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Believing Paul was in the wrong.......wow that is some slippery slope there. And Episkopos agrees with that. Noted. And I hope others take note as well.
As if todays inclusive judge not generation knows far better than the judgmental paul .
The things people believe sister .
Remember when i told you and the others that if todays judge not crowd
were to see JESUS and that apostels walking into churches
they had ran them all out .
And i mean ran THEM ALL OUT .
And as they kicked them out the door
they would be screaming , HEY HATERS , yall need jesus . YEAH figure that one out .
Their jesus is NOT the JESUS CHRIST of GOD .
Its an invention of a very subtile and very wise creature . Who by this sensual version of jesus and of love
Has got them to embrace it as though it be GOD and its love .
That is exactly how satan gets the worship . Through the f lesh , the convesation of the flesh .
So you can bet he can even use the name of JESUS and ev en cliam its of GOD and is his love .
Yet all along its of the dark one . People are falling in love
with a lie sister . And all who made and loved a lie , not a good end sister .
BUY THE TRUTH and sell her not .
 

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Sister, there was so much wrong with your post I didn't know where to start. I decided to comment on one thing you mentioned about the office of a teacher, and was going to wait on the Lord for whether or what to say concerning the rest. Amigo tackled one aspect, which I agreed with - it was not four strikes "against" you, so to speak, only one.

If we call anything written by Paul into question then that leaves the entire new testament open to question as potentially not being inspired. Is that what you and Epi believe?
the more i read what she wrote i was like i can spend all day correcting this .
but i decided to warn against her approach . it is the inclusive one . Though i dont know if she
has bought the big lie yet . but is obvious she is buying into lies . That is not a good sign either .
IT IS PRIDE and REBELLION to go against the pattern GOD set . Pride was the fall of lucifer
and it will be the fall of man .
One thing i have noticed about this senusal inclusive love so many now run too and have embraced
as though it be of GOD .
PRIDE IS ALL OVER IT . yet they see it as very humble like .
Wanna know what has become a key sin to this generation .
THEY see it as sin to be grave and correct . The sin that wont flow with false unity and finding common ground .
I mean most folks can teach some of the most heinous things and still they keep company .
TO THEM the SIN the big sin , IS not trying to find common ground and have unity.
They honestly believe The great goal of GOD is , HEY EVERYONE JUST HAVE UNITY .
IF GOD was all about the unity they are for and the common ground goal
HE would never have DESTROYED the tower of babel .
AND BELIEVE ME THEY ALL HAD ONE COMMON MINDSET . it just was NOT UNDER GOD .
JUST LIKE TODAY . oh they have a common mindset and its all about WE ARE ONE .
And just looking at what they tolerate and what they dont tolerate , I can easily say iT AINT UNDER GOD .
 

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Matthias was with them in the group of disciples. This was a requirment for him to be selected. He was a witness to everything that had happened.

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very good mark i see you read acts . exactly . mathias HAD BEEN with JESUS .
Tis why peter said we need one who has been a witness with us etc .
mathias had been with them during that walk . He might not have been one of the twelve
but he had been with them . And due to judas , Son of perditon , was cast out .
ONE who had been with them and even been witness to his ressurection had to replace Judas .
So they cast lots between the two . In the bible we must be and in the bible let us stay to learn .
Cause many are heeding wayward men in these late and last and oh yes final hours upon earth .
 

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They chose Matthias by lot....which was a way of putting it in God's hands to choose.

I'm not sure most of us are qualified to criticize what the Apostles did....it's above our station. It took another apostle (Paul) to rebuke Peter.
Pick n choose .
That is the motto of all who love to heed men and whose trust and hope is in men .
They pick what to beleive and choose what to omit .
As for this sheep , i pick to expose anything contrary to what is already written
and i choose TRUTH and not f lesh pleasing lies .
Anytime one picks and chooses what doctrine to beleive and what doctrine to omit
I PROMISE its because of one thing sister . Just one thing .
TO PLEASE THEIR FLESH and own hearts desires . BY GOLLY if a woman wants to TEACH and be a preacher , WELL THEN
she gonna pick and choose .
IF a person loves that MONEY , well they too gonna pick and choose .
As for the sheep , THANK GOD ALL MIGHTY who has put the LOVE of the TRUTH upon our hearts .
And we PICK to not follow what is contrary to THE TRUTH , for between truth and a lie , WE CHOOSE TRUTH . that simple .
And thank GOD , its HE who put the desires to do what is pleasing to him upon our hearts .
And sin , lies and inquity , rebelling agaisnt His gospel and his docrtrine , WELL that AINT PLEASING TO GOD .
Obedaince is , not rebellion .
 

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I also don't like how Peter chose Mathias as an Apostle, instead of letting Jesus choose His own Apostles. Paul is who Jesus chose.
HE didnt choose mathias .
Peter prayed to GOD and asked GOD to choose . T ry reading the bible .
LORD ye know the hearts of all men ................choose ye ........................
PETER prayed TO GOD and asked him to choose which one . AND GOD DID . the lot fell upon mathais .
And beleive me GOD does know the hearts of all men and HE DID choose which one
would replace that judas who fell by trangression .
You cliam GOD called you to be a teacher .
WELL allow me to remind you of something . EVEN if you had been a man
i would have said , You are not a teacher . you been messing things up big time .
 

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and if this inclusive generation thinks i am grave . please read the bible .
I aint even rebuked half as gravely as they did or i could .
WE gots to get off this judge not lovey do rail road train of a disaster and real fast . as in right now .