Street Preacher cries out: The soul who continues to sin will die

[CoreIssue]

Yes. Since the concept of "consciousness in death" is foreign to the Bible, the very next thought a person who dies will happen at the either the sound of Jesus calling them forth from the grave to their Second Life at His Second Coming or the sound of His voice calling them up after the thousand years to their Second Life, where they will face judgement and then the Second Death, from which there will be no resurrection.

The body is not conscious but the Spirit is.

 

[Phoneman777]

The body is not conscious but the Spirit is.

Yes, God's Spirit returns to Him JUST AS IT WAS before He breathed it into the nostrils of whatever creature was about to become a living soul:

Body + Breath of Life (Spirit of Life) = Living Soul

JUST AS IT WAS without any speck of us mingled with it...not our thoughts, memories, emotions, character, appearance, voice, nothing. JUST AS IT WAS before it left God it returns to God, whether it leaves the body of a saint, sinner, or animal, it returns to Him as such. Once we die, that's it, fin...until the resurrection

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Have you not yet understood?
Sin is Against God.
A Converted man Has God WiTH him, and a Converted man Sins NO MORE, by the Power of God.

So, no. Belief is a beginning. Conversion is the Gift. And Sinning No More is the Result. And a Saved soul, Quickened spirit and Glorified body is the Reward.

Glory to God,
Taken

LOL

Did you not understand my post? Read it again. I am not 'for' the modern versions, but against them. And your reasoning is why, and we agree, so what's the problem.

I am not 'for' sinning up a storm! I'm against sinning. And I am 'for' understanding the conditions of God, which in this case was "who do not walk after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

 

[CoreIssue]

Yes, God's Spirit returns to Him JUST AS IT WAS before He breathed it into the nostrils of whatever creature was about to become a living soul:

Body + Breath of Life (Spirit of Life) = Living Soul

JUST AS IT WAS without any speck of us mingled with it...not our thoughts, memories, emotions, character, appearance, voice, nothing. JUST AS IT WAS before it left God it returns to God, whether it leaves the body of a saint, sinner, or animal, it returns to Him as such. Once we die, that's it, fin...until the resurrection

Disagree

 

[Taken]

LOL

Did you not understand my post? Read it again. I am not 'for' the modern versions, but against them. And your reasoning is why, and we agree, so what's the problem.

I am not 'for' sinning up a storm! I'm against sinning. And I am 'for' understanding the conditions of God, which in this case was "who do not walk after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

Oh ya, I miss read your post!

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Phoneman777]

Disagree

Genesis 2:7 says Body + Breath = Living Soul

No different than Bulb + Electric Current = Shining Light

And, just as in the case when the Electric Current is removed from the Bulb, the Light ceases to exist, so the Living Soul ceases to exist when God's Spirit returns to Him and the Body returns to the dust (Ecclesiastes 12:7). You've a right to your own opinion, but not to your own Biblical facts, friend.

 

[APAK]

And for those in Christ, our spirit returns to the Father as a different spirit from whence it was given at birth. It has been modified into a new spirit that also contains Christ's spirit.

Blessings,

APAK

 

[1stCenturyLady]

And for those in Christ, our spirit returns to the Father as a different spirit from whence it was given at birth. It has been modified into a new spirit that also contains Christ's spirit.

Blessings,

APAK

I'm a little confused as to your timing. You don't mean at death do you? When we are born again of the Spirit of Christ, which must happen in order to be a Christian, our spirit will contain the seed of the Father. 1 John 3:9; Romans 8:9

 

[APAK]

I'm a little confused as to your timing. You don't mean at death do you? When we are born again of the Spirit of Christ, which must happen in order to be a Christian, our spirit will contain the seed of the Father. 1 John 3:9; Romans 8:9

No confusion, and you quoted two appropriate verses. Upon your rebirth, and when you pass later, you carry the 'seed' of Christ' spirit within your own spirit as the mark or seal of salvation back to the Father and even the Son himself in their keeping. My initial post was adding to CoreIssue's and Phoneman777's discussion about the soul and when the breath (spirit of life) is gone and one passes on...

Bless you,

APAK

 

[1stCenturyLady]

No confusion, and you quoted two appropriate verses. Upon your rebirth, and when you pass later, you carry the 'seed' of Christ' spirit within your own spirit as the mark or seal of salvation back to the Father and even the Son himself in their keeping. My initial post was adding to CoreIssue's and Phoneman777's discussion about the soul and when the breath (spirit of life) is gone and one passes on...

Bless you,

APAK

I'll send you a comment privately - watch for mail.

 

[amadeus]

My problem is that I am slow to anything because I am autistic.

For example, I took a look at the leadership of the new testament church in the scripture and it took me two years to complete.

I have investigated the second coming of Jesus and 10 years later I am still going.

I, however, consider that a blessing as I tend to not jump to conclusions even though I need the exercise.

Just give God the glory my friend!

 

[Episkopos]

Genesis 2:7 says Body + Breath = Living Soul

No different than Bulb + Electric Current = Shining Light

And, just as in the case when the Electric Current is removed from the Bulb, the Light ceases to exist, so the Living Soul ceases to exist when God's Spirit returns to Him and the Body returns to the dust (Ecclesiastes 12:7). You've a right to your own opinion, but not to your own Biblical facts, friend.

We HAVE a body...but we ARE a soul. You need to look for more than one verse to make a proper assessment. Anybody can misunderstand by making too much out of one verse. It's like trying to figure out a language by knowing only one sentence.

 

[CoreIssue]

We HAVE a body...but we ARE a soul. You need to look for more than one verse to make a proper assessment. Anybody can misunderstand by making too much out of one verse. It's like trying to figure out a language by knowing only one sentence.

We are Body, soul and spirit. Only the spirit continues after death.

 

[Episkopos]

We are Body, soul and spirit. Only the spirit continues after death.

Always the same errors over and over again...

Man can kill the body...but only God can kill the soul in hell fire. We are a soul. The spirit returns to God from whence it came. The salvation of the soul is the process of sanctification by maturity in Christ. We are trying to walk by faith to the saving of the soul.

The law of sin and death is...the SOUL that sins, it shall die. Do our bodies die when we sin? No. But our souls are separated from God when we sin. We lose the connection to our spirits. When we repent and God reactivates the link in our spirits...our souls are refreshed again by His grace.

We are not spirits. God is Spirit.

We are neither a body nor a spirit....but we are in between the 2.

 

[Nancy]

In this video, a street preacher declares what is written: whoever continues in sin will die.

It seems this man has the gift of Prophecy. These people can never say they did not hear the Gospel, they can never say they were not warned.

 

[Episkopos]

It seems this man has the gift of Prophecy. These people can never say they did not hear the Gospel, they can never say they were not warned.

The problem is that the church of today doesn't believe that sin leads to death. They believe that grace is assurance against condemnation...like God is so powerless He cannot equip us to walk like Jesus...so He rubber stamps those who give Him lip service? Only man can come up with a scheme like that.

How can the modern church be saved? We need to call the church to repentance.

Whoever continues to sin will die? Why preach that to the unconverted when the converted don't believe it?

 

[farouk]

There are people who are always going to be opposed to the Gospel, but this does not mean it should not be preached faithfully.

 

[Nancy]

The problem is that the church of today doesn't believe that sin leads to death. They believe that grace is assurance against condemnation...like God is so powerless He cannot equip us to walk like Jesus...so He rubber stamps those who give Him lip service? Only man can come up with a scheme like that.

How can the modern church be saved? We need to call the church to repentance.

Whoever continues to sin will die? Why preach that to the unconverted when the converted don't believe it?

"How can the modern church be saved? We need to call the church to repentance."

Indeed, there is a spirit of
lackadaisical-ness in many Churches. My ideal of a brick and mortar "Church" would simply be Christians gathering on a regular basis in each others homes. I know, that is not very common

"Why preach that to the unconverted when the converted don't believe it?"

So they can never say they (the un-converted) were not warned? Or can say they never heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ? As far as many in the mainline "Church", we know them by their fruits...should not change how we treat them unless they live in open sin, IMHO.

"They believe that grace is assurance against condemnation."

Then it seems to me, they "went out from us..." If they love their sin more than God and, even though they show up to Sunday services bodily...they are only fooling themselves and will be standing alone, before God to give an account. I would not go so far to say these are not saved, only God knows who is.

 

[CoreIssue]

The problem is that the church of today doesn't believe that sin leads to death. They believe that grace is assurance against condemnation...like God is so powerless He cannot equip us to walk like Jesus...so He rubber stamps those who give Him lip service? Only man can come up with a scheme like that.

How can the modern church be saved? We need to call the church to repentance.

Whoever continues to sin will die? Why preach that to the unconverted when the converted don't believe it?

I think you need to repent of your Gnosticism first.

 

[Phoneman777]

We HAVE a body...but we ARE a soul.

I agree. a "soul" is the person, the "I", the ego, the self. A "soul" is any living creature. It exists as a consequence of the union of the body and the breath of life.

You need to look for more than one verse to make a proper assessment. Anybody can misunderstand by making too much out of one verse. It's like trying to figure out a language by knowing only one sentence.

I think Genesis 2:7 is sufficient to keep us on track. It plainly says a soul is the result of the union of the body and the breath of life, does it not? There's not a single verse in all of Scripture that speaks of an "immortal soul" - in fact, 1 Timothy 6:16 clearly says God "only hath immortality" and Romans 2:7 says only those who "seek for immortality" are granted eternal life.

The wicked do not seek for immortality, so they will not be granted it. They will pass out of existence after their allotted time in the Lake of Fire according to their deeds. That's why Satan will burn the longest before he "shall not be anymore". - Ezekiel 28:19