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  1. daq

    daq HSN#1851

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    During the wilderness temptation-trial-testing of the Master he is set on a wing or pinnacle of the Temple which is in the Greek the Hieron-Temple. It does not matter whether the following account is intended to be literal or in a vision of the Temple because either way what is being described is the physical Hieron-Temple building made with hands:

    Matthew 4:5 KJV
    5. Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple [GSN#2411 hieron],


    This word Greek "hieron" is always employed to describe a physical temple building such as at Jerusalem:

    Matthew 12:5-6 KJV
    5. Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple [GSN#2411 hieron] profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
    6. But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple [GSN#2411 hieron].


    Yeshua claims to be GREATER than the Hieron-Temple building made with hands!

    Matthew 21:14-15 KJV
    14. And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; [GSN#2411 hieron] and he healed them.
    15. And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, [GSN#2411 hieron] and saying, Hosanna to the Son of David; they were sore displeased,

    Matthew 21:23 KJV
    23. And when he was come into the temple, [GSN#2411 hieron] the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority?


    Yet when we arrive at Matthew 23 the word "Naos" is introduced for the Temple. And in this context the Master is revealing the what, where, and why, of how the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes where mistaken in their doctrines:

    Matthew 23:15-22 KJV
    15. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
    16. Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, [GSN#3485 naos] it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, [GSN#3485 naos] he is a debtor!
    17. Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple [GSN#3485 naos] that sanctifieth the gold?
    18. And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
    19. Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
    20. Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
    21. And whoso shall swear by the temple, [GSN#3485 naos] sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
    22. And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.


    1) The Naos-Temple sanctifies "the gold" (not the gold the Temple).
    2) The Most High dwells in the Naos-Temple
    3) Heaven is the throne of God

    Matthew 23:32-35 KJV
    32. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
    33. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
    34. Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
    35. That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple [GSN#3485 naos] and the altar.


    Desolating Abomination Post#32

    Matthew 24:1-2 KJV
    1. And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: [GSN#2411 hieron] and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple [GSN#2411 hieron].
    2. And Jesus said unto them, See [GSN#991 blepo] ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.


    Original Strong's Ref. #991
    Romanized blepo
    Pronounced blep'-o
    a primary verb; to look at (literally or figuratively):
    KJV--behold, beware, lie, look (on, to), perceive, regard, see, sight, take heed.
    Compare GSN3700.

    And Yeshua says to them: "TAKE NO HEED OF ALL THESE THINGS!"

    Matthew 24:2-4 Transliterated Unaccented
    2. Ho de apokritheis eipen autois, "Ou blepete tauta panta Amen lego humin, ou meafethe hode lithos epi lithon hos ou kataluthesetai"^
    3. Kathemenou de autou epi tou Orous ton Elaion proselthon auto hoi mathetai kat idian legontes, "Eipehemin pote tauta estai Kai ti to semeion tes sesparousias kai sunteleias tou aionos"
    4. Kai apokritheis ho Iesous eipen autois, "Blepete me-tis humas planese

    Matthew 24:4 KJV
    4. And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed [GSN#991 blepo] that no man deceive you.

    Matthew 24:2 -- "Ou blepete tauta panta" ~ "Take no heed of all these things!"
    Matthew 24:4 -- "Blepete me-tis humas planese" ~ "Take heed that no one deceive you!"


    The form of blepo is identical in both instances above and should be rendered likewise:

    "Ou blepete" ~ "Pay no heed!"
    "Blepete" ~ "Take heed!"


    Matthew 24:1-2 KJV
    1. And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
    2. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.


    Are we to believe that the disciples came to Yeshua for to show him the workmanship of the Hieron-Temple and its magnificent stones, (re: Mark 13:1-2) and then the Master turns and asks them if they "do not see the stones" which they just asked him to look at? That interpretation is redundant and makes the Master to look somewhat foolish in his remarks. In other words, rather than an interrogative-question, [?] the Master exclaims [!] to them "PAY NO HEED!" to this Hieron-Temple building made with hands because verily there shall not be left one stone upon another which shall not have been thrown down. This understanding completely alters the inflection, perception, and supernal meaning of the entire Olivet Discourse. Thus the Olivet Discourse and all of the supernal signs given by the Master have nothing to do with the Hieron-Temple building or any other temple-building made with the hands of man. When we arrive at the Gospel of John we are informed more clearly of what the Naos-Temple concerns:

    John 2:13-21 KJV
    13. And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
    14. And found in the temple [GSN#2411 hieron] those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
    15. And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, [GSN#2411 hieron] and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
    16. And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
    17. And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.
    18. Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
    19. Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, [GSN#3485 naos] and in three days I will raise it up.
    20. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple [GSN#3485 naos] in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
    21. But he spake of the temple [GSN#3485 naos] of his body.


    If therefore the Master speaks of the Naos-Temple of his Body, and the saints be in and of the one Body of Messiah, then I choose that interpretation of the Naos-Temple whenever I read of it hereafter in the Word, that is to say, that the Naos-Temple concerns the body temple supernal and the true Temple of God rather than a physical Hieron-Temple building made with the hands of men. And this certainly includes the Book of the Revelation of Yeshua.
    :)
     
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  2. daq

    daq HSN#1851

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    According to the Scripture then what is WRONG with the following imagery?

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    Anyone?
    :)
     
  3. Rocky Wiley

    Rocky Wiley Active Member

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    Hi daq,

    I think I can follow what your saying, let me see if I understand.

    Jesus would say "Pay no attention to this physical building, for the day is coming when the new temple will reside in you."

    The importance is not the temple its self but the fact that it will be destroyed. This appears to be why the disciples connect it to the end of the age, for they asked. "When shall these things be, the sign of thy coming and the end of the age?".
     
  4. Axehead

    Axehead New Member

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    And were they connecting it to the end of the OT age which implied the ending of many other things?

    No more Temples
    No more sacrifices,
    No more compulsory giving (tithing needed for temple and priests)
    No more clergy (priests)
    No more mediators
    No more outward laws (replaced with inward conviction and quidance of the Holy Spirit)


    Jesus: the Better Revelation of God
    Hebrews 1:1-4

    Jesus: the Better Man for Mankind
    Hebrews 2:5-18

    Jesus: the Better Ground of Faithfulness
    Hebrews 3:1-19

    Jesus: the Better Rest of God
    Hebrews 4:1-13

    Jesus: the Better Divine-Human High Priest
    Hebrews 4:14 ­ 5:10

    Jesus: the Better Hope of Inheriting the Promises of God
    Hebrews 5:11 - 6:20

    Jesus: The Better Hope of Man
    Hebrews 7:19

    Jesus: the Better Mediator between Man and God
    Hebrews 7:20-28

    Jesus: The Minister of a Better Covenant
    Hebrews 8:6

    Jesus: The Minister of Better Promises
    Hebrews 8:6

    Jesus: The Better Sacrifice for Forgiveness
    Hebrews 9:23

    Jesus: The Better Way of Access to God
    Hebrews 10:19-39

    Jesus: The Better Guarantor of Promises Received by Faith
    Hebrews 11:1-40

    Jesus: The Better Country
    Hebrews 11:6

    Jesus: The Better Resurrection
    Hebrews 11:35

    Jesus: The Better Example of Faithful Endurance
    Hebrews 12:1-13

    Jesus: The Better Example of Holiness and Worship
    Hebrews 12:14-29

    Jesus: The Better Example of Suffering and Bearing Reproach
    Hebrews 13:1-25
     
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  5. daq

    daq HSN#1851

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    Hi Rocky, I think you are close but take look at the LIT version of Matthew 24:3 below:

    Matthew 24:3 LIT (Literal Bible with Vertical Strong's #'s)
    3.
    |2521| sitting
    |1161| And
    |0846| he
    |1909| on
    |3588| the
    |3735| Mountain
    |3588| of
    |1636| Olives,
    |4334| came up
    |0846| to him
    |3588| the
    |3101| followers
    |2596| privately
    |2398| -
    |3004| saying,
    |2036| Tell
    |2254| us,
    |4129| when
    |5023| these things
    |2071| will be.
    |2532| And
    |5102| what
    |9999| {is}
    |3588| the
    |4592| sign
    |4674| of your
    |3952| presence,
    |2532| and
    |9999| {of the}
    |4930| termination
    |3588| of the
    |0165| age?


    See that word number GSN#2398 ("idios") which goes "untranslated" and is therefore not rendered into the English translations? The "scholars" will tell you that "kata-idios" should be rendered "privately" but I dispute this "rule" for the same reasons that the same "scholars" apparently have no problem with Paul preaching a different Gospel than that of Messiah. That same word "idios" means "PERTAINING TO SELF" or "OF THE SELF" and is certainly there in all of the Greek Texts whether Textus Receptus or what are commonly referred to as the "GNT Morph" compilation texts. Here it is in the TUA Transliterated Unaccented Bible; do not be put off by the Translaiterated Greek, it is used here only to show that the words kata and idios-idian are truly there in the passage:

    Matthew 24:3 TUA
    3. Kathemenou de autou epi tou Orous ton Elaion proselthon auto hoi mathetai kat idian legontes, "Eipehemin pote tauta estai? Kai ti to semeion tes sesparousias kai sunteleias tou aionos?"

    Do not let these giant definitions get in your way either but they are necessary:

    Original Strong's Ref. #2596
    Romanized kata
    Pronounced kat-ah'
    a primary particle; (prepositionally) down (in place or time), in varied relations (according to the case [genitive case, dative case or accusative case] with which it is joined):
    KJV--about, according as (to), after, against, (when they were) X alone, among, and, X apart, (even, like) as (concerning, pertaining to touching), X aside, at, before, beyond, by, to the charge of, [charita-]bly, concerning, + covered, [dai-]ly, down, every, (+ far more) exceeding, X more excellent, for, from...to, godly, in(-asmuch, divers, every, -to, respect of), ...by, after the manner of, + by any means, beyond (out of) measure, X mightily, more, X natural, of (up-)on (X part), out (of every), over against, (+ your) X own, + particularly, so, through(-oughout, -oughout every), thus, (un-)to(-gether, -ward), X uttermost, where(-by), with. In composition it retains many of these applications, and frequently denotes opposition, distribution, or intensity.


    Original Strong's Ref. #2398
    Romanized idios
    Pronounced id'-ee-os
    of uncertain affinity; pertaining to self, i.e. one's own; by implication, private or separate:

    KJV--X his acquaintance, when they were alone, apart, aside, due, his (own, proper, several), home, (her, our, thine, your) own (business), private(-ly), proper, severally, their (own).

    So in other words it is highly likely that the disciples understood the Master when he said, about the physical temple building, "PAY NO HEED TO ALL THESE THINGS!" Or at least if they did not fully understand at that time then they certainly did later when these things were written because that is how the passages are written. Therefore they ask him KATA-CONCERNING IDIOS-THEMSELVES, (understanding that they themselves are like the "precious stones" of the temple of God not made with hands). And what they asked concerning themselves was when the "consummation of the age" would come to pass, (each in his or her own appointed times, and there are two aionos-ages to the man). Throughout the Olivet Discourse the Master then gives them all of the supernal signs to watch for, and what he says to them four, he says to all, WATCH! (Mark 13:37). These same supernal signs none of the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes, or anyone who walks according to "the belly of the flesh" will be able to "see" until it is too late. :)
     
  6. Rex

    Rex New Member

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    So Daq I would be interested in hearing your opinion of 2 Thes 2:4

    4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

    The Naos temple Paul speaks about, in your opinion is it flesh or stone?





    In regards to your picture question my answer would be based on the date of temple service. Before or after the veil was torn?
    But there is a clue "the ARK" so it would seem that this service is taking place before Herod's temple was built and is probably Solomon's temple, so the practice is valid.


    the large bronze wash basin is also there so this is Solomon's temple.
     
  7. daq

    daq HSN#1851

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    Hi Rex, I have replied to this question in a more appropriate thread:
    Desolating Abomination Post#76


    Sorry, I should have mentioned this is a portrayal of Solomon's prayer of dedication. :)

    Yes, it is a portrayal of the first Temple, (commonly known as "Solomon's Temple") but what is wrong with the imagery? You will be hard pressed to find anything online or anywhere else that accurately portrays the truth of the matter. In this artwork what is wrong is that Solomon is facing the Temple building made with the hands of men; yet this is not the case according to the Scripture. Thus what this reveals, and almost all artwork concerning this occasion, is the fact that even to this day the same natural mindset of the natural man continues to prevail in the thinking that the temple building made with hands, made of wood, stones, gold, silver, brass, and iron, is somehow the dwelling place of God. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, this perception makes the Scripture out to have seemingly failed because the Most High has said that this first Temple, built by Solomon son of David, would be FOREVER the house of God. Therefore, if we perceive that this first temple building made with hands has been destroyed; then the Scripture is nullified in our minds whether we understand this or have not yet thought this through to its final implications, (but the Scripture is true though every man be a liar).

    SOLOMON TURNS TO FACE THE PEOPLE:

    1 Kings 8:12-14 KJV
    12. Then spake Solomon, The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.
    13. I have surely built thee an house to dwell in, a settled place for thee to abide in for ever.
    14.
    And the king turned his face about, and blessed all the congregation of Israel: (and all the congregation of Israel stood;)

    Did Solomon merely "turn his face about" as the KJV renders it?
    That is what the Hebrew implies and thankfully other translations render the statement more accurately:

    1 Kings 8:14 RSV (Revised Standard Version)
    14. Then the king faced about, and blessed all the assembly of Israel, while all the assembly of Israel stood.

    1 Kings 8:14 NJB (New Jerusalem Bible)
    14. The king then turned round and blessed the whole assembly of Israel, while the whole assembly of Israel stood.


    And from the 2 Chronicles 6:1-3 companion passage we read:

    2 Chronicles 6:1-3 KJV
    1. Then said Solomon, The Lord hath said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.
    2. But I have built an house of habitation for thee, and a place for thy dwelling for ever.
    3. And the king turned his face, and blessed the whole congregation of Israel: and all the congregation of Israel stood.

    2 Chronicles 6:3 RSV
    3. Then the king faced about, and blessed all the assembly of Israel, while all the assembly of Israel stood.

    2 Chronicles 6:3 NJB
    3. Then the king turned round and blessed the whole assembly of Israel, while the whole assembly of Israel stood.

    2 Chronicles 6:3 TUA - Transliterated Unaccented Bible
    3. Wayaceb hamelek 'et- panayw waybarek 'et kal- qhalYisra'el, wkal- qhal Yisra'el `owmed.


    Original Strong's Ref. #5437
    Romanized cabab
    Pronounced saw-bab'
    a primitive root; to revolve, surround, or border; used in various applications, literally and figuratively (as follows):
    KJV--bring, cast, fetch, lead, make, walk, X whirl, X round about, be about on every side, apply, avoid, beset (about), besiege, bring again, carry (about), change, cause to come about, X circuit, (fetch a) compass (about, round), drive, environ, X on every side, beset (close, come, compass, go, stand) round about, inclose, remove, return, set, sit down, turn (self) (about, aside, away, back).

    "Wayaceb hamelek 'et- panayw" ~ "And turned round about the king to face them"…

    2 Chronicles 2:2-3
    2. But I have built an house of habitation for thee, and a place for thy dwelling
    for ever.
    3. And turned round about the king to face them; and blessed the whole congregation of Israel:
    and all the congregation of Israel stood.

    EVEN FROM OLD TIME ~ THE PEOPLE ARE THE TEMPLE!

    Check and see for yourself in the contexts of the entire prayer of dedication from both passages: Solomon NEVER turns back around to face the newly built temple-building which was made with the hands of men, and with gold, and silver, and brass, and iron. If then the people are the Temple of the Most High then indeed the same Temple continues this very day, and forever, just as the Scripture states.

    The Solomon Temple represents the Great Congregation Body of Messiah. :)
     
  8. Angelina

    Angelina Prayer Warrior Staff Member Admin

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    Hi daq,
    I recall a study you did years back on PT about the outer court [including the bronze laver/ Brazen Altar, ] Holy Place [incl: The Menorah, the altar of incense and the table of shewbread] and Holy of Holies [incl: The Ark of the covenant, which housed the 2 stone tablets, Aaron's budding rod and the jar of manna].

    I would love reread it all again as it was so awesome and inspiring. Since the old forum is now closed, most of the articles from there are lost... :huh: in cyberspace!

    Bless ya!

    Umm...well I see the brazen altar, the bronze laver in the foreground and people are worshiping outside the temple. It also seems that the ark of the covenant is being carried into the outercourt? Oh and is that an asherah pole?



    Indeed he is... ^_^
     
  9. daq

    daq HSN#1851

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    Hi Angelina. Lord willing I will attempt to address as many of those things as possible but unfortunately I cannot reproduce such a thing. Contrary to what some have already accused me of here, (certain "prophets") I actually do write out what things I post with the exceptions being Scripture texts or anything from the site, (and if I quote someone else I link to it). I prefer to speak with people, friends, and brethren, rather than posting a plethora of copy and paste at people. So what things I write do come from the heart at the time, (though some of the "prophets" here apparently do not wish to admit the same of themselves) and the thread which you saw before must have been a good conversation with someone because those are generally the most beneficial and productive threads for all of us concerned. However, this leads into something I do not care too much for concerning the forum setup here. That is the fact that I cannot now go back and correct any mistakes after someone else posts a reply to my previous posts. Unfortunately mistakes are always made when posting in such a way so I need to correct a critical mistake from above:

    I said:

    "Did Solomon merely "turn his face about" as the KJV renders it?
    That is what the Hebrew implies and thankfully other translations render the statement more accurately:
    "

    Which should have been edited to say:

    "Did Solomon merely "turn his face about" as the KJV renders it?
    That is NOT what the Hebrew implies and thankfully other translations render the statement more accurately:
    "

    Other than that again, Lord willing, shall return …

    PS ~ The pillar to right side of the porch of the House would be Yakin, (1 Kings 7:21). :)


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    Angelina Prayer Warrior Staff Member Admin

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    Hi daq,

    I actually knew that you write your own stuff...and have known that from the beginning...it is a shame that such a powerful message has been lost but perhaps the Lord write out a new one for you ^_^

    Bless you!
     
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    daq HSN#1851

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    Solomon offers himself symbolically as a "living sacrifice" pleasing unto God. This is revealed in the fact that the "brazen scaffold" (KJV) upon which Solomon kneels down to pray is the exact same dimensions as the "Brazen Altar of Sacrifice" or altar of burnt offering, (which is from the "wilderness" Tabernacle). The brazen scaffold is the bronze colored "cart on wheels" shown in the first image file above concerning the Solomon prayer of dedication scene, (the wheels are not mentioned in the Scripture but rather assumed by the artist).

    2 Chronicles 6:12-14 KJV
    12. And he stood before the altar of the Lord in the presence of all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands:
    13. For Solomon had made a brasen scaffold of five cubits long, and five cubits broad, and three cubits high, and had set it in the midst of the court: and upon it he stood, and kneeled down upon his knees before all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands toward heaven.
    14. And said, O Lord God of Israel, there is no God like thee in the heaven, nor in the earth; which keepest covenant, and shewest mercy unto thy servants, that walk before thee with all their hearts:


    Original Strong's Ref. #3595
    Romanized kiyowr
    Pronounced kee-yore'
    or kiyor {kee-yore'}; from the same as HSN3564; properly, something round (as excavated or bored), i.e. a chafing-dish for coals or a caldron for cooking; hence (from similarity of form) a washbowl; also (for the same reason) a pulpit or platform:
    KJV--hearth, laver, pan, scaffold.

    Solomon has the brazen hearth-platform-scaffold set in the midst of the court and UPON it he stands; then he turns himself about to face the people and kneels down to pray, raising his hands toward heaven. The brazen platform-hearth is five cubits by five cubits square and three cubits in height. Why are these measurements so important to the context? It is because the measurements are the same as the Brazen Altar of Sacrifice:

    Exodus 27:1-5 KJV
    1. And thou shalt make an altar of Shittim wood, five cubits long, and five cubits broad; the altar shall be foursquare: and the height thereof shall be three cubits.
    2. And thou shalt make the horns of it upon the four corners thereof: his horns shall be of the same: and thou shalt overlay it with brass.
    3. And thou shalt make his pans to receive his ashes, and his shovels, and his basons, and his fleshhooks, and his firepans: all the vessels thereof thou shalt make of brass.
    4. And thou shalt make for it a grate of network of brass; and upon the net shalt thou make four brasen rings in the four corners thereof.
    5. And thou shalt put it under the compass of the altar beneath, that the net may be even to the midst of the altar.


    The Scripture is symbolically portraying Solomon as kneeling and praying upon the Brazen Altar:

    Romans 12:1-2 KJV
    1. I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
    2. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

    2 Chronicles 7:12-16 KJV
    12. And the Lord appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.
    13. If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
    14. If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
    15. Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.
    16. For now have I chosen and sanctified this house,
    that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.

    John 17:25-26 KJV
    25. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
    26. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

    Psalms 22:18-26 KJV
    18. They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
    19. But be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
    20. Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
    21. Save me from the lion's mouth:
    for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
    22. I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
    23. Ye that fear the Lord, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
    24. For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
    25. My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
    26.
    The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the Lord that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.

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    Solomon also had built another altar of brass because the Brazen Altar of Sacrifice from Moses, for the Tabernacle of God, was in the high place at Gibeon:

    2 Chronicles 1:3-7 KJV
    3. So Solomon, and all the congregation with him, went to the high place that was at Gibeon; for there was the tabernacle of the congregation of God, which Moses the servant of the Lord had made in the wilderness.
    4. But the ark of God had David brought up from Kirjathjearim to the place which David had prepared for it: for he had pitched a tent for it at Jerusalem.
    5. Moreover the brasen altar, that Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, had made, he put before the tabernacle of the Lord: and Solomon and the congregation sought unto it.
    6. And Solomon went up thither to the brasen altar before the Lord, which was at the tabernacle of the congregation, and offered a thousand burnt offerings upon it.
    7. In that night did God appear unto Solomon, and said unto him, Ask what I shall give thee.


    The Brazen Altar of Solomon is the same 20 x 20 cubits square as the Oracle-Holy Holies:

    2 Chronicles 3:8 KJV
    8. And he made the most holy house, the length whereof was according to the breadth of the house, twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof twenty cubits: and he overlaid it with fine gold, amounting to six hundred talents.

    2 Chronicles 4:1 KJV
    1. Moreover he made an altar of brass, twenty cubits the length thereof, and twenty cubits the breadth thereof, and ten cubits the height thereof.


    Solomon Temple dimensions with the Atonements of the Moses Tabernacle:

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    However, the Brazen Altar of twenty cubits by twenty cubits which Solomon had made was still not large enough to receive all of the sacrifices and offerings of the dedication of the Temple, (which Temple is the people). Where then did the sacrifices of the dedication take place? All of the middle of the court which is before the House of YHWH was therefore "hallowed" or sanctified:

    2 Chronicles 7:1-7 KJV
    1. Now when Solomon had made an end of praying, the fire came down from heaven, and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices; and the glory of the Lord filled the house.
    2. And the priests could not enter into the house of the Lord, because the glory of the Lord had filled the Lord's house.
    3. And when all the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the Lord upon the house, they bowed themselves with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and worshipped, and praised the Lord, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever.
    4. Then the king and all the people offered sacrifices before the Lord.
    5. And king Solomon offered a sacrifice of twenty and two thousand oxen, and an hundred and twenty thousand sheep: so the king and all the people dedicated the house of God.
    6. And the priests waited on their offices: the Levites also with instruments of musick of the Lord, which David the king had made to praise the Lord, because his mercy endureth for ever, when David praised by their ministry; and the priests sounded trumpets before them, and all Israel stood.
    7. Moreover Solomon hallowed the middle of the court that was before the house of the Lord: for there he offered burnt offerings, and the fat of the peace offerings, because the brasen altar which Solomon had made was not able to receive the burnt offerings, and the meat offerings, and the fat.

    1 Kings 8:62-64 KJV
    62. And the king, and all Israel with him, offered sacrifice before the Lord.
    63. And Solomon offered a sacrifice of peace offerings, which he offered unto the Lord, two and twenty thousand oxen, and an hundred and twenty thousand sheep. So the king and all the children of Israel dedicated the house of the Lord.
    64.
    The same day did the king hallow the middle of the court that was before the house of the Lord: for there he offered burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and the fat of the peace offerings: because the brasen altar that was before the Lord was too little to receive the burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and the fat of the peace offerings.

    SOLOMON HALLOWED THE MIDST OF THE COURT BEFORE THE HOUSE:

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    At this point the entire midst of the court before the House is Most Holy, sanctified, hallowed. Each and every one of the great congregation of the children of Israel who offers sacrifice becomes his or her own personal "altar of sacrifice" (five cubits by five cubits square according to the Tabernacle typology) in the same way that king Solomon himself had symbolically offered up himself in prayer for the people upon the five cubit by five cubit brazen hearth-platform-scaffold as a "living sacrifice" unto the Most High. Each one offers up his own lambs, rams, goats, and fatted calf, (supernal in meaning). And the holy fire comes down from heaven and consumes the acceptable offerings of the willing hearts of the people. Yet how can it be that king Solomon "hallowed" the midst of the court which is before the House in that very day seeing that he is neither a Levite nor a Kohen-Priest but rather from the tribe of Judah? It is actually not Solomon who sanctifies the court; but rather it is the Most High who does the sanctifying, and he does this when we do from a pure heart those things which he has asked of us all, and he sanctifies the whole House:

    1 Kings 9:1-3 KJV
    1. And it came to pass, when Solomon had finished the building of the house of the Lord, and the king's house, and all Solomon's desire which he was pleased to do,
    2. That the Lord appeared to Solomon the second time, as he had appeared unto him at Gibeon.
    3. And the Lord said unto him, I have heard thy prayer and thy supplication, that thou hast made before me:
    I have hallowed this house, which thou hast built, to put my name there for ever; and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.

    And "the effectual fervent prayer of an upright man availeth much" … :)


    Psalms 141:1-2 KJV
    1. Lord, I cry unto thee: make haste unto me; give ear unto my voice, when I cry unto thee.
    2. Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice.
     
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    The wise king Solomon reveals the making of the altar of 'adamah which is commanded to the children of Israel along with the Ten Words Decalogue in Exodus 20. There are three types of earth, land, and soil mentioned in the first two chapters of the Genesis creation account and they are the "dry land" as per Genesis 1:9-10, (HSN#3004 yabbashah) which is in the same passage called "the earth" in general terms, (HSN#776 'erets) and finally "the soil" from which the man is taken, (HSN#127 'adamah). Thereafter, throughout most of the Old Testament Hebrew, 'erets or 'adamah are the two most common words employed depending upon the context and meaning of the passage. Unfortunately the understanding of these two words does not translate clearly enough into the English translations and therefore a deeper study of the Old Testament writings is required. These things cannot be discovered in the Greek New Testament because it employs primarily "ge" in a wide spectrum of usages covering both Hebrew words. Thus, some N/T statements cannot be fully grasped without checking the O/T parallel passages wherever possible. Without O/T-Tanak study one cannot fully understand these things because the only way to grasp the differences, like most everything else, is to rely on the context in which the words are found and how they are used. The soil of the heart is the 'adamah, from which the man was taken in the beginning, and the passages below describe how the altar which is commanded to the children of Israel with the Decalogue is to be made:

    Genesis 2:7 KJV
    7. And the Lord God formed man [HSN#120 'adam] of the dust of the ground, [HSN#127 'adamah] and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


    Original Strong's Ref. #127
    Romanized 'adamah
    Pronounced ad-aw-maw'
    from HSN0119; soil (from its general redness):
    KJV--country, earth, ground, husband[-man] (-ry), land.

    The fact that this concerns the heart in the Exodus account is only revealed by comparison with the Deuteronomy companion chapter. Therefore I quote the large amount of the following two texts simply to show the correlation, (the Gospel accounts work the same way).

    Exodus 20:13-26 KJV
    13. Thou shalt not kill.
    14. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
    15. Thou shalt not steal.
    16. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
    17. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
    18. And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
    19. And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.
    20. And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.
    21. And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.
    22. And the Lord said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.
    23. Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.
    24. An altar of earth [HSN#127 'adamah] thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.
    25. And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.
    26. Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.

    Deuteronomy 5:17-30 KJV
    17. Thou shalt not kill.
    18. Neither shalt thou commit adultery.
    19. Neither shalt thou steal.
    20. Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
    21. Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.
    22. These words the Lord spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.
    23. And it came to pass, when ye heard the voice out of the midst of the darkness, (for the mountain did burn with fire,) that ye came near unto me, even all the heads of your tribes, and your elders;
    24. And ye said, Behold, the Lord our God hath shewed us his glory and his greatness, and we have heard his voice out of the midst of the fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he liveth.
    25. Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us: if we hear the voice of the Lord our God any more, then we shall die.
    26. For who is there of all flesh, that hath heard the voice of the living God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as we have, and lived?
    27. Go thou near, and hear all that the Lord our God shall say: and speak thou unto us all that the Lord our God shall speak unto thee; and we will hear it, and do it.
    28. And the Lord heard the voice of your words, when ye spake unto me; and the Lord said unto me, I have heard the voice of the words of this people, which they have spoken unto thee: they have well said all that they have spoken.
    29. O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!
    30. Go say to them, Get you into your tents again.


    Clearly these two passages are "companion" passages. Deuteronomy 5:29 is the companion verse which explains Exodus 20:24 because it continues with more of what the Father spoke to Moses for the people immediately after giving the Ten Words Decalogue:

    Exodus 20:24a ~ "An altar of 'adamah thou shalt make unto me" …
    Deuteronomy 5:29a ~ "O that there were such an heart in them"…


    This altar of the 'adamah-soil is the foundation for the Brazen Altar of Sacrifice and is used for supernal "burnt offerings" and sacrifices as revealed in the repentant heart and prayer of Solomon for not only himself but for all the congregation-temple-people. Solomon therefore does not need to physically stand upon a literal brazen altar set up on the foundation of a literal mound of 'adamah with the twelve stones because his heart is the 'adamah-soil of the earth from which man was taken to begin with. Thus king Solomon made the brazen "scaffold" or platform-hearth to stand upon, and kneel upon, when he spoke and offered up the prayer of dedication. When we enter into the promise land we are commanded to build an altar unto the Father. This is the same altar and is made with twelve stones which are "plaistered-plastered" with both the earth of the land, and with the bronze of the land, for the Beautiful Land has "stones of iron" and "from its hills" may brass be dug:

    Deuteronomy 8:7-9 KJV
    7. For the Lord thy God bringeth thee into a good land, a land of brooks of water, of fountains and depths that spring out of valleys and hills;
    8. A land of wheat, and barley, and vines, and fig trees, and pomegranates; a land of oil olive, and honey;
    9. A land wherein thou shalt eat bread without scarceness, thou shalt not lack any thing in it; a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose hills thou mayest dig brass.


    The twelve stones are to come from out of the Jordan River when a whosoever crosses through the baptism-immersion of John, (and the first shall be last and the last shall be first at the crossing; "O ye priests").

    Deuteronomy 27:2-7 KJV
    2. And it shall be on the day when ye shall pass over Jordan unto the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, that thou shalt set thee up great stones, and plaister them with plaister:
    3. And thou shalt write upon them all the words of this law, when thou art passed over, that thou mayest go in unto the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, a land that floweth with milk and honey; as the Lord God of thy fathers hath promised thee.
    4. Therefore it shall be when ye be gone over Jordan, that ye shall set up these stones, which I command you this day, in mount Ebal, and thou shalt plaister them with plaister.
    5. And there shalt thou build an altar unto the Lord thy God, an altar of stones: thou shalt not lift up any iron tool upon them. [Re: Exodus 20:25]
    6. Thou shalt build the altar of the Lord thy God of whole stones: and thou shalt offer burnt offerings thereon unto the Lord thy God:
    7. And thou shalt offer peace offerings, and shalt eat there, and rejoice before the Lord thy God.

    Joshua 4:1-8 KJV
    1. And it came to pass, when all the people were clean passed over Jordan, that the Lord spake unto Joshua, saying,
    2. Take you twelve men out of the people, out of every tribe a man,
    3. And command ye them, saying, Take you hence out of the midst of Jordan, out of the place where the priests' feet stood firm, twelve stones, and ye shall carry them over with you, and leave them in the lodging place, where ye shall lodge this night.
    4. Then Joshua called the twelve men, whom he had prepared of the children of Israel, out of every tribe a man:
    5. And Joshua said unto them, Pass over before the ark of the Lord your God into the midst of Jordan, and take ye up every man of you a stone upon his shoulder, according unto the number of the tribes of the children of Israel:
    6. That this may be a sign among you, that when your children ask their fathers in time to come, saying, What mean ye by these stones?
    7. Then ye shall answer them, That the waters of Jordan were cut off before the ark of the covenant of the Lord; when it passed over Jordan, the waters of Jordan were cut off: and these stones shall be for a memorial unto the children of Israel for ever.
    8. And the children of Israel did so as Joshua commanded, and took up twelve stones out of the midst of Jordan, as the Lord spake unto Joshua, according to the number of the tribes of the children of Israel, and carried them over with them unto the place where they lodged, and laid them down there.


    The twelve stones from the Jordan, one for each of the tribes of Israel, Joshua then lays up in Gilgal where the encampment of the congregation is set up. However, this is not where the altar is reared up but rather where the stones were kept until the altar could be set up in mount Ebal as commanded. The altar is set up at a later date after the battle Ai:

    Joshua 4:19-24 KJV
    19. And the people came up out of Jordan on the tenth day of the first month, and encamped in Gilgal, in the east border of Jericho.
    20. And those twelve stones, which they took out of Jordan, did Joshua pitch in Gilgal.
    21. And he spake unto the children of Israel, saying, When your children shall ask their fathers in time to come, saying, What mean these stones?
    22. Then ye shall let your children know, saying, Israel came over this Jordan on dry land.
    23. For the Lord your God dried up the waters of Jordan from before you, until ye were passed over, as the Lord your God did to the Red sea, which he dried up from before us, until we were gone over:
    24. That all the people of the earth might know the hand of the Lord, that it is mighty: that ye might fear the Lord your God for ever.

    Joshua 8:30-33 KJV
    30. Then Joshua built an altar unto the Lord God of Israel in mount Ebal,
    31. As Moses the servant of the Lord commanded the children of Israel, as it is written in the book of the law of Moses, an altar of whole stones, over which no man hath lift up any iron: and they offered thereon burnt offerings unto the Lord, and sacrificed peace offerings.
    32. And he wrote there upon the stones a copy of the law of Moses, which he wrote in the presence of the children of Israel.
    33. And all Israel, and their elders, and officers, and their judges, stood on this side the ark and on that side before the priests the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord, as well the stranger, as he that was born among them; half of them over against mount Gerizim, and half of them over against mount Ebal; as Moses the servant of the Lord had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.


    We now therefore have the twelve stones for the foundation of the New Altar, (representing the twelve tribes and the twelve apostles). The twelve stones are taken from the Jordan crossing with the baptism-immersion under John Elias at the River Jordan. Likewise the faithful and true disciple already has the fertile 'adamah-soil of the repentant Parable of the Sowers heart. And upon the foundation of these two, (the twelve stones and the 'adamah-brazen-molten-"plaistering") is set the Brazen Altar of Sacrifice meaning that all these parts together become the one altar of bronze because the continual fire of the altar and its continual daily offerings will make all of the altar one molten unit together, (for the stones of the Beautiful Land are iron and the soil of the hills contains the brass).

    The stones are set like the four walls of the city; four rows of three stones each:

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    If therefore one is willing to do these things, (which are Spirit, supernal, and of the heart) then the Father says that when he comes he is going to bring GOLD FOR BRASS. If therefore one has the brass or brazen altar of the 'adamah soil of the heart, (so as to judge himself and put away iniquity from his own house) then the same is one day set to be exchanged for the "gold".

    Isaiah 60:8-17 KJV
    8. Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?
    9. Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the Lord thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.
    10. And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee.
    11. Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought.
    12. For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.
    13. The glory of Lebanon shall come unto thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious.
    14. The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee; The city of the Lord, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
    15. Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.
    16. Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.
    17. For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness.


    But when the Son of man comes will he find faith in the 'adamah? "Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father, Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." And in that day shall it be understood how the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hidden in a field, (like precious stones buried in the soil) the which when a man finds, he keeps it secret, and for the joy thereof he goes and sells all that he has, and buys the field. Likewise Yeshua counsels each of us "to purchase" from him "gold having been tried in the fire" when he speaks the same to Laodicea, that is, when each of us reaches that stage in his or her own walk, (each in his or her own appointed times).

    Revelation 3:17-18 KJV
    17. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
    18. I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.


    How else should we think that we could, in any way possible, be capable of "purchasing" anything whatsoever from the Master, much less, gold having been tried in the fire? I surmise that this is one of those ways ...
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    I do hope and pray this "ground work" is going somewhere fruitful Angelina! :)

    The twelve stones taken from the River Jordan are likewise no ordinary stones because they are found down stream from Adam, the city, which is a reference the land of Havilah where there is the good gold and every precious onyx stone:

    Joshua 3:15-16 RSV
    15. and when those who bore the ark had come to the Jordan, and the feet of the priests bearing the ark were dipped in the brink of the water (the Jordan overflows all its banks throughout the time of harvest),
    16. the waters coming down from above stood and rose up in a heap far off, at Adam, the city that is beside Zarethan, and those flowing down toward the sea of the Arabah, the Salt Sea, were wholly cut off; and the people passed over opposite Jericho.


    And when the Most High comes, and all the saints with him, these precious stones are not left in the rocky tombs under the ground but rather, by the command of his Word, the Most High calls them forth from their mountains, and dens, and rocks, and caves, and strongholds, (for as locusts for multitude do the Midianites, Amalekites, and the sons of the East come against the children of Israel; and whenever they do then the sons of Israel go into the rocks and caves of the earth and flee to the Mountain of God). And when these precious stones come forth from the rocks and caves none of them are anymore cloudy or darkened by density. Every one is crystal clear as the sapphire sky blue firmament of heaven; each one his own shade out of all the colors of the Creator, even all the colors of the Rainbow like transparent onyx and crystal: for their purpose is not to reflect the Light but rather for the Light of Messiah to pass clean through them radiating brilliantly. And when the Father raises them up, by the command of his Word, the wise hearted in the wisdom of the Spirit of the Word shall radiate as the brightness of the firmament, even as the stars of heaven forever and ever, when each one stands in his lot at the appointed time at the end of "the days". The Amethyst is one example of how the precious foundation stones of the heavenly city are quietly formed over time inside of rocks, and caves, and "the mountains" of God:

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    The same are the precious living foundation stones of Jerusalem of above which every priest wears upon his heart:

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    Revelation 6:9-11 KJV
    9. And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
    10. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
    11. And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.


    Therefore again we build an altar of the 'adamah-soil of the heart unto God; otherwise where should one be able to hide in the day of darkness, gloom, and trouble? And when king Solomon made the "brazen hearth-platform-scaffold" and "hallowed the middle of the court" the word used for "court" is not the commonly used word typically employed, (HSN#2691 chatser) but rather the word is HSN#5835 `azarah which is found only nine times in the Hebrew:

    2 Chronicles 4:9 KJV
    9. Furthermore he made the court [HSN#2691 chatser] of the priests, and the great court, [HSN#5835 `azarah] and doors for the court, [HSN#5835 `azarah] and overlaid the doors of them with brass.


    Original Strong's Ref. #5835
    Romanized `azarah
    Pronounced az-aw-raw'
    from HSN5826 in its original meaning of surrounding; an inclosure; also a border:
    KJV--court, settle.

    The "Great Court" is called the `Azarah and its "doors"-entrances are plated or "overlaid" with brass. The next place `azarah is found is the text from where king Solomon has made for himself the brazen platform-hearth and hallows the middle of the `azarah-court:

    2 Chronicles 6:13 KJV
    13. For Solomon had made a brasen scaffold of five cubits long, and five cubits broad, and three cubits high, and had set it in the midst of the court: [HSN#5835 `azarah] and upon it he stood, and kneeled down upon his knees before all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands toward heaven.


    The final six usages of `azarah are all found in Ezekiel and concern the Altar of Sacrifice from the Ezekiel Temple which is twelve cubits by twelve cubits inside the "settle" (as translated in the KJV). The `Azarah is now, in Ezekiel, suddenly become what is translated in the KJV as the "settle" enclosure of the altar itself. Thus the entire "Great Court" with its "doors of brass" are now diminished to the size of the exterior enclosure of the Altar of Sacrifice revealing that this was the intention all along even as the actions of king Solomon revealed. The implications are once again that every man builds his own court and altar unto God which is to be most holy. And this Altar of Sacrifice the prophet Ezekiel calls the "Mountain of God" which is 'ari'eyl or emphatically Har'El and Ezekiel writes both:

    Ezekiel 43:14-17 KJV
    14. And from the bottom upon the ground even to the lower settle [HSN#5835 `azarah] shall be two cubits, and the breadth one cubit; and from the lesser settle [HSN#5835 `azarah] even to the greater settle [HSN#5835 `azarah] shall be four cubits, and the breadth one cubit.
    15. So the altar [HSN#2025 har'el] shall be four cubits; and from the altar and upward shall be four horns.
    16. And the altar [HSN#741 'ari'eyl] shall be twelve cubits long, twelve broad, square in the four squares thereof.
    17. And the settle [HSN#5835 `azarah] shall be fourteen cubits long and fourteen broad in the four squares thereof; and the border about it shall be half a cubit; and the bottom thereof shall be a cubit about; and his stairs shall look toward the east.


    Original Strong's Ref. #741
    Romanized 'ari'eyl
    Pronounced ar-ee-ale'
    either by transposition for HSN0739 or, more probably, an orthographical variation for HSN2025; the altar of the temple:
    KJV-- altar.

    Original Strong's Ref. #2025
    Romanized har'el
    Pronounced har-ale'
    from HSN2022 and HSN0410; mount of God; figuratively, the altar of burnt-offering:
    KJV--altar. Compare HSN0739.

    The `Azarah which was formerly the "Great Court" that Solomon hallowed is become the enclosure of the Altar of Sacrifice in Ezekiel and these passages above, with also Ezekiel 43:20 and Ezekiel 45:19, are the only places where `azarah is found, (with the possible exception of the "non-canonical" IV Esdras 13:45, [II Ezra 11:45]). Likewise the Altar of Sacrifice is called "the Mountain of God". And the Word to the prophet Ezekiel is that these ordinances are given to the children of Israel for that time to come in the day when "THEY" (plural) shall make it, (each in his or her own appointed times).

    Ezekiel 43:18 KJV
    18. And he said unto me, Son of man, thus saith the Lord God; These are the ordinances of the altar in the day when they shall make it, to offer burnt offerings thereon, and to sprinkle blood thereon.


    Ezekiel the priest also reveals the differences between the meanings of 'erets and 'adamah from several passages where the true meanings do not come forth to the reader in the English translations. The following is the KJV with the exception that both 'erets and 'adamah are transliterated directly to show the distinctions by the context in which they are written:

    Ezekiel 11:14-20 KJV
    14. Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
    15. Son of man, thy brethren, even thy brethren, the men of thy kindred, and all the house of Israel wholly, are they unto whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, Get you far from the Lord: unto us is this
    'erets-land given in possession.
    16. Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord God; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the
    'erets-'aratsowt-countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the 'erets-'aratsowt-countries where they shall come.
    17. Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord God; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the
    'erets-'aratsowt-countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the 'adamah-land of Israel.
    18. And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence.
    19. And I will give them
    one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
    20. That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
     
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    Missed your post Axehead,Well Said, now if only they would listen......

    In all His Love
     
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    Who is this "they" that you speak of ??? :)
     
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    That's OBVIOUS blaphemy.

    Greek blepo for "Take heed" means - behold, look, percieve, regard, see, take heed (Strong's no. 991)

    Greek me tis or metis for "no man" means - let no one (Strong's no. 3387).

    Greek plano for "deceive" means - to go astry, to cause to go astray, to lead away from the truth, etc. (Strong's no. 4105).

    Greek humas for "you" means - you in the plural sense (Strong's no. 5209).


    You're saying it means DO NOT TAKE HEED is a BASTARDIZATION of the Scripture!!!

    The SUBJECT in question there is Jesus warning His disciples to NOT be deceived by.... a temple? NO! By any MAN!

    Your false doctrine has completely missed the grammatical subject and object of that Scripture, just because you instead want to hold to your stupid false Jewish doctrines of an abomination idol being setup in a future literal physical temple in Jerusalem for the last days. What you have done is the equivalent to TELLING LIES.
     
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    You have reversed most everything I have said and "bastardized" my words into blasphemies, (to use your own terminology). This it appears you desire to include with your false accusations so that you may feel justified in not accepting what has been said. It has nothing to do with any physical temple of the past or of the future because Yeshua says "PAY NO HEED TO THESE [PHYSICAL] THINGS". Can you not see that this is what was said above? "OU" is an absolute NEGATIVE. Yeshua says "Blepete" when it comes to being "deceived" and it is translated by most everyone as TAKE HEED (that no one deceive you). What then does "blepete" with the absolute negative imply? "OU-BLEPETE" is "DO NOT TAKE HEED!"

    Original Strong's Ref. #3756
    Romanized ou
    Pronounced oo
    also (before a vowel) ouk {ook}; and (before an aspirate) ouch {ookh}; a primary word; the absolute negative [compare GSN3361] adverb; no or not:
    KJV--+ long, nay, neither, never, no (X man), none, [can-]not, + nothing, + special, un([-worthy]), when, + without, + yet but. See also GSN3364, GSN3372.


    You do not understand what has been stated above in this thread. Therefore perhaps you should not have judged so quickly as you have. Do you not even care anything about at least the Ten Commandments?

    Exodus 20:16 KJV
    16. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

    Deuteronomy 19:16
    16. If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
    17. Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the Lord, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
    18. And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
    19. Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.
    20. And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you.


    Sorry for your left handed luck ... :)
     
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    Mark 13:14 KJV
    14. But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

    And where is that Tsebiy-Beautiful Land of the 'adamah-soil of Judaea?
    And what are "the mountains" we flee into when "the Assyrian" comes in like a flood?
    They are Mount Horeb the Mountain of God, Mount Olivet the holy Mountain, Mount Zion in the sides of the north;
    Har'El the Altar and Mountain of God, and 'Ari'eyl which is the same:

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    Isaiah 29:1-7 KJV
    1. Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt! add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices.
    2. Yet I will distress Ariel, and there shall be heaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel.
    3. And I will camp against thee round about, and will lay siege against thee with a mount, and I will raise forts against thee.
    4. And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.
    5. Moreover the multitude of thy strangers shall be like small dust, and the multitude of the terrible ones shall be as chaff that passeth away: yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly.
    6. Thou shalt be visited of the Lord of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.
    7. And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision.


    The "keeper fishes" of the "Kings catch" are set to the right by the Master Temple Builder himself:

    Matthew 4:18-19
    18. And Yeshua, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.

    19. And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.

    John 21:1-6
    1. After these things Yeshua shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself.
    2. There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two other of his disciples.
    3. Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him, We also go with thee. They went forth, and entered into a ship immediately; and that night they caught nothing.
    4. But when the morning was now come, Yeshua stood on the shore: but the disciples knew not that it was Yeshua.
    5. Then saith Yeshua unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No!
    6. And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.


    An Hundred and Fifty and Three


    Zechariah 6:12-13
    12. And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh YHWH Sabaoth, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of YHWH:
    13. Even he shall build the temple of YHWH; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

    John 21:10-11
    10. Yeshua saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.
    11. Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.


    The 153 fishes are the symbolic commencement of building of the Living Temple.
    Even as living stones in the workmanship of the holy Temple:

    153 Thousand and Three Hundred


    1 Kings 5:15-18
    15. And Solomon had threescore and ten thousand that bare burdens, [70,000] and fourscore thousand hewers in the mountains; [80,000]
    16. Beside the chief of Solomon's officers which were over the work, three thousand and three hundred, which ruled over the people that wrought in the work.
    17. And the king commanded, and they brought great stones, costly stones, and hewed stones, to lay the foundation of the house.
    18. And Solomon's builders and Hiram's builders did hew them, and the stonesquarers: so they prepared timber and stones to build the house.


    153 Thousand and Six Hundred

    2 Chronicles 2:1-7
    1. And Solomon determined to build an house for haShem YHWH, and an house for his kingdom.
    2. And Solomon told out threescore and ten thousand men to bear burdens, and fourscore thousand to hew in the mountain, and three thousand and six hundred to oversee them.
    3. And Solomon sent to Huram the king of Tyre, saying, As thou didst deal with David my father, and didst send him cedars to build him an house to dwell therein, even so deal with me.
    4. Behold, I build an house to haShem YHWH 'Elohey, to dedicate it to him, and to burn before him sweet incense, and for the continual shewbread, and for the burnt offerings morning and evening, on the Sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts of YHWH our 'Elohey. This is an ordinance for ever to Israel.
    5. And the house which I build is great: for great is our 'Elohey above all gods.
    6. But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?
    7. Send me now therefore a man cunning to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass, and in iron, and in purple, and crimson, and blue, and that can skill to grave with the cunning men that are with me in Judah and in Jerusalem, whom David my father did provide.


    A cunning man of Potter's Clay! Gold! Silver! Brass! and Iron!
    And the 'Eben-Stone Yeshua grinds to powder the idol temples of man:

    Daniel 2:34-35
    34. Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
    35. Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.


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    Daniel 2:41-44
    41. And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
    42. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
    43. And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
    44. And in the days of these kings shall the 'Elah of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.


    And beaten wheat, and barley, and hurt not the oil and the wine!

    2 Chronicles 2:8-16
    8. Send me also cedar trees, fir trees, and algum trees, out of Lebanon: for I know that thy servants can skill to cut timber in Lebanon; and, behold, my servants shall be with thy servants,
    9. Even to prepare me timber in abundance: for the house which I am about to build shall be wonderful great.
    10. And, behold, I will give to thy servants, the hewers that cut timber, twenty thousand measures of beaten wheat, and twenty thousand measures of barley, and twenty thousand baths of wine, and twenty thousand baths of oil.
    11. Then Huram the king of Tyre answered in writing, which he sent to Solomon, Because YHWH hath loved his people, he hath made thee king over them.
    12. Huram said moreover, Blessed be YHWH 'Elohey of Israel, that made heaven and earth, who hath given to David the king a wise son, endued with prudence and understanding, that might build an house for YHWH, and an house for his kingdom.
    13. And now I have sent a cunning man, endued with understanding, of Huram my father's,
    14. The son of a woman of the daughters of Dan, and his father was a man of Tyre, skillful to work in gold, and in silver, in brass, in iron, in stone, and in timber, in purple, in blue, and in fine linen, and in crimson; also to grave any manner of graving, and to find out every device which shall be put to him, with thy cunning men, and with the cunning men of my lord David thy father.
    15. Now therefore the wheat, and the barley, the oil, and the wine, which my lord hath spoken of, let him send unto his servants:
    16. And we will cut wood out of Lebanon, as much as thou shalt need: and we will bring it to thee in floats by sea to Joppa; and thou shalt carry it up to Jerusalem.


    And the strangers, even those far away, they shall come to work in the Temple:

    Zechariah 6:15
    15. And they that are far off shall come and build in the temple of YHWH, and ye shall know that YHWH Sabaoth hath sent me unto you. And this shall come to pass, if ye will diligently obey the voice of YHWH your 'Elohey.

    2 Chronicles 2:17
    17. And Solomon numbered all the strangers that were in the land of Israel, after the numbering wherewith David his father had numbered them; and they were found an hundred and fifty thousand and three thousand and six hundred.


    And Cedar Trees, Fir Trees, and the Algum and the Almug!
    And the gold is the good gold from Havilah and the golden wedge of Ophir!

    2 Chronicles 9:10-11
    10. And the servants also of Huram, and the servants of Solomon, which brought gold from Ophir, brought algum trees and precious stones.
    11. And the king made of the algum trees terraces to the house of YHWH, and to the king's palace, and harps and psalteries for singers: and there were none such seen before in the land of Judah.

    1 Kings 10:11-12
    11. And the navy also of Hiram, that brought gold from Ophir, brought in from Ophir great plenty of almug trees, and precious stones.
    12. And the king made of the almug trees pillars for the house of the YHWH, and for the king's house, harps also and psalteries for singers: there came no such almug trees, nor were seen unto this day.

    Revelation 3:12-13
    12. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of the Theou of me, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of the Theou of me, and the name of the city of the Theou of me, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from the Theou of me: and I will write upon him my new name.
    13. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


    Think that the trees like to be hewn down and carved into pillars?
    Think that the precious stones like to be sawed, cut, shaped, and polished?
    Think that the metals like to be smelted in the fire and then hammered into shape?

    There was famine in the land of Israel; Samaria, of the Northern Tribes.
    And the Word of YHWH spoke through Elisha the man of ha-'Elohiym:

    2 Kings 7:1-2
    1. Then Elisha said, Hear ye the Word of YHWH; Thus saith YHWH, To morrow about this time shall a measure of fine flour be sold for a shekel, and two measures of barley for a shekel, in the gate of Samaria.
    2. Then a third officer on whose hand the king leaned answered the man of ha-'Elohiym, and said, Behold, if YHWH should make windows in heaven, might this thing be? And he said, Behold, thou shalt see it with thine eyes, but shalt not eat thereof.

    Revelation 6:5-6
    5. And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Erchou! And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
    6. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a denarius, and three measures of barley for a denarius; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

    2 Kings 7:16-20
    16. And the people went out, and spoiled the tents of the Syrians. So a measure of fine flour was sold for a shekel, and two measures of barley for a shekel, according to the word of YHWH.
    17. And the king appointed the third officer on whose hand he leaned to have the charge of the gate: and the people trode upon him in the gate, and he died, as the man of ha-'Elohiym had said, who spake when the king came down to him.
    18. And it came to pass as the man of ha-'Elohiym had spoken to the king, saying, Two measures of barley for a shekel, and a measure of fine flour for a shekel, shall be to morrow about this time in the gate of Samaria:
    19. And that third officer answered the man of ha-'Elohiym, and said, Now, behold, if YHWH should make windows in heaven, might such a thing be? And he said, Behold, thou shalt see it with thine eyes, but shalt not eat thereof.
    20. And so it fell out unto him: for the people trode upon him in the gate, and he died.


    And if you will not believe: "Behold, thou see it with thine eyes, but shalt not eat thereof" … ;)


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    In the II Kings 7 passage above there are "FOUR LEPERS" which have everything to do with what follows herein; for even the disease of leprosy is likewise used in the Scripture as a type and a shadow of spiritual sicknesses and diseases of the worst kind: devils, both inside the inner "walls" of the house and on the outside of the house, (and the man is the house).

    2 Kings 7:1-16 KJV
    1. Then Elisha said, Hear ye the word of the Lord; Thus saith the Lord, To morrow about this time shall a measure of fine flour be sold for a shekel, and two measures of barley for a shekel, in the gate of Samaria.
    2. Then a lord on whose hand the king leaned answered the man of God, and said, Behold, if the Lord would make windows in heaven, might this thing be? And he said, Behold, thou shalt see it with thine eyes, but shalt not eat thereof.
    3. And there were four leprous men at the entering in of the gate: and they said one to another, Why sit we here until we die?
    4. If we say, We will enter into the city, then the famine is in the city, and we shall die there: and if we sit still here, we die also. Now therefore come, and let us fall unto the host of the Syrians: if they save us alive, we shall live; and if they kill us, we shall but die.
    5. And they rose up in the twilight, to go unto the camp of the Syrians: and when they were come to the uttermost part of the camp of Syria, behold, there was no man there.
    6. For the Lord had made the host of the Syrians to hear a noise of chariots, and a noise of horses, even the noise of a great host: and they said one to another, Lo, the king of Israel hath hired against us the kings of the Hittites, and the kings of the Egyptians, to come upon us.
    7. Wherefore they arose and fled in the twilight, and left their tents, and their horses, and their asses, even the camp as it was, and fled for their life.
    8. And when these lepers came to the uttermost part of the camp, they went into one tent, and did eat and drink, and carried thence silver, and gold, and raiment, and went and hid it; and came again, and entered into another tent, and carried thence also, and went and hid it.
    9. Then they said one to another, We do not well: this day is a day of good tidings, and we hold our peace: if we tarry till the morning light, some mischief will come upon us: now therefore come, that we may go and tell the king's household.
    10. So they came and called unto the porter of the city: and they told them, saying, We came to the camp of the Syrians, and, behold, there was no man there, neither voice of man, but horses tied, and asses tied, and the tents as they were.
    11. And he called the porters; and they told it to the king's house within.
    12. And the king arose in the night, and said unto his servants, I will now shew you what the Syrians have done to us. They know that we be hungry; therefore are they gone out of the camp to hide themselves in the field, saying, When they come out of the city, we shall catch them alive, and get into the city.
    13. And one of his servants answered and said, Let some take, I pray thee, five of the horses that remain, which are left in the city, (behold, they are as all the multitude of Israel that are left in it: behold, I say, they are even as all the multitude of the Israelites that are consumed:) and let us send and see.
    14. They took therefore two chariot horses; and the king sent after the host of the Syrians, saying, Go and see.
    15. And they went after them unto Jordan: and, lo, all the way was full of garments and vessels, which the Syrians had cast away in their haste. And the messengers returned, and told the king.
    16. And the people went out, and spoiled the tents of the Syrians. So a measure of fine flour was sold for a shekel, and two measures of barley for a shekel, according to the word of the Lord.


    The Seven Seals represent not only the different stages in the walk of the life of every believer, (as do the seven letters to the Seven Ekklesias) but also seven stages of the building of the heavenly Temple. And as we know the man who is named "the Branch" builds the Temple, Yeshua the Messiah, as prophesied in Zechariah. The opening of the Sixth Seal is the unfolding of the 20x10 Porch of the Solomon Temple yet the Sixth Seal is the Porch of the heavenly Temple for which the Solomon Temple is the symbolic typological prototype. It is of extreme importance that John is weeping when nobody is found worthy to open the Seven Sealed Scroll. Why would John be weeping if the Seals are such a terrible thing? It must then be of the utmost importance for the Seals to be removed and the Scroll to be opened, meaning that what things come about from the Scroll are toward the GOOD END promised to all the people of God, (each in his appointed times).

    Revelation 5:1-5 KJV
    1. And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
    2. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
    3. And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
    4. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
    5. And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.


    The Seven Sealed Scroll is not a "title deed to the entire late great planet earth" as so many of the modern prophecy shepherds have proposed but rather more likely it represents the "title deed to the soil" which is the heart and mind of the man; like the 'adamah-soil of the heart as explained in the Parable of the Sower. This is the true "promised land" and the dominion thereof which the first man Adam forfeited when he and his wife fell and were forced out of Gan Eden. Zechariah is shown a vision of a flying Megillah, a flying Scroll, which is said to be a curse that shall be brought forth upon all the earth. And it is indeed a curse for those who reject Messiah because it seals the fate of all including those who refuse the love of the truth. But more importantly the flying "Megillah in the sky" is the curse upon the supernal disease which infects the lepers among men and, therefore, effectually cleanses the "leprosy" from the man and his household. The flying Scroll is the unveiling of the heavenly and spiritual-supernal Torah which Messiah writes upon our hearts by the very Finger of YHWH; for Yeshua is the Right Arm of the Salvation of YHWH, and the very Finger of God, the Finger of the Great High Priest that sprinkles the blood of our Covenant.

    Zechariah 5:1-4 KJV
    1. Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.
    2. And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.
    3. Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on
    this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.
    4. I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house,
    and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.

    Notice that the Scroll of Revelation 5 and the Megillah-Scoll of Zechariah 5 are both stated to have been written on either side, this and that, both sides. They represent the same document which will purge out thieves and liars from both the "house of the man"
    (the man is the house) and the House of YHWH. However, the more important aspect which mostly goes unnoticed is that Zechariah gives the dimensions of the Megillah-Scroll.

    The flying Megillah Scroll of Zechariah:
    20 x 10 Cubits: Twenty Cubits Length ~ Ten Cubits Breadth.

    Why would the dimensions of the flying Megillah be so important? It can be for one reason only because the dimensions are found nowhere else in Scripture, neither concerning any other object mentioned in the scripture, except for the Porch of the Temple which Solomon made:

    1 Kings 6:1-3 KJV
    1. And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the Lord.
    2. And the house which king Solomon built for the Lord, the length thereof was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof twenty cubits, and the height thereof thirty cubits.
    3. And the porch before the temple of the house,
    twenty cubits was the length thereof, according to the breadth of the house; and ten cubits was the breadth thereof before the house.

    Porch of the Solomon Temple-House of YHWH:
    20 x 10 Cubits: Twenty Cubits Length ~ Ten Cubits Breadth.

    At the Sixth Seal the heavens unfold like a great Megillah Scroll in the sky. This informs the reader that the Porch of the heavenly Temple is being rolled out in the heavens or the sky. The Greek word used for "rolled" is generally translated "rolled together" however "together" is assumed and added when, in fact, it can also be said that the Scroll is being rolled out-apart which is to say unrolled.

    Revelation 6:14 TUA
    14. kai ho ouranos apechoristhe hos biblion helissomenon kai pan oros kainesos ek ton topon auton ekinethesan.


    Original Strong's Ref. #673
    Romanized apochorizo
    Pronounced ap-okh-o-rid'-zo
    from GSN0575 and GSN5563; to rend apart; reflexively, to separate:

    Original Strong's Ref. #1507
    Romanized heilisso
    Pronounced hi-lis'-so
    a prolonged form of a primary but defective verb heilo (of the same meaning); to coil or wrap:

    The imagery is of a coiled up scroll rolling open and out when the seal upon it has been removed:

    Revelation 6:12-14
    12. And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
    13. And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
    14. And the heaven rent apart like a scroll having been coiled up; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.


    And who or what stands upon the Porch continually before the Lord?
    The typology names in the Solomon Temple are the Pillars Boaz and Yakin.

    Also the Moon is at the feet of the Zion woman of Revelation 12 where she is about to give birth.
    Thus the Moon becomes "as blood" whenever "a son" is born, or is about to be born, into the Kingdom.


    Likewise about this time any "leprosy" must needs to be cleansed from "the house" ~

    Leviticus 14:33-45 KJV
    33. And the Lord spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
    34. When ye be come into the land of Canaan, which I give to you for a possession,
    and I put the plague of leprosy in a house of the land of your possession;
    35. And he that owneth the house shall come and tell the priest, saying, It seemeth to me there is as it were a plague in the house:
    36. Then the priest shall command that they empty the house, before the priest go into it to see the plague, that all that is in the house be not made unclean: and afterward the priest shall go in to see the house:
    37. And he shall look on the plague, and, behold, if the plague be in the walls of the house with hollow strakes, greenish or reddish, which in sight are lower than the wall;
    38. Then the priest shall go out of the house to the door of the house, and shut up the house seven days:
    39. And the priest shall come again the seventh day, and shall look: and, behold, if the plague be spread in the walls of the house;
    40. Then the priest shall command that they take away the stones in which the plague is, and they shall cast them into an unclean place without the city:
    41. And he shall cause the house to be scraped within round about, and they shall pour out the dust that they scrape off without the city into an unclean place:
    42. And they shall take other stones, and put them in the place of those stones; and he shall take other morter, and shall plaister the house.
    43. And if the plague come again, and break out in the house, after that he hath taken away the stones, and after he hath scraped the house, and after it is plaistered;
    44. Then the priest shall come and look, and, behold, if the plague be spread in the house, it is a fretting leprosy in the house; it is unclean.
    45. And he shall break down the house, the stones of it, and the timber thereof, and all the morter of the house; and he shall carry them forth out of the city into an unclean place.


    Ah, yes, I do recall a time when after having entered into the Land I went to the Priest, and said to him: "It seemeth to me there is as it were a plague in my house" and He answered unto me that my house would must needs one day be emptied of all the "good contents" so that any precious vessel inside the house would not be lost. Then he gave me a document to read until the appointed time of his arrival to inspect and cleanse my house. And he said unto me concerning the document; Eat all of this, both the sweetness with the bitter herbs, for this is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth and comes upon the world as a snare: I will bring it forth, saith YHWH Sabaoth, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof. Yet I understood not his Word at that time. :)
     
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    When the Lamb of God opens the Sixth Seal of the Megillah-Scroll the twenty by ten cubit Porch of the heavenly Temple unfolds in the heavens like a scroll. Upon this same typological Porch of the Solomon Temple stand the two Pillars Yakin and Boaz. These are likened unto "two witnesses" which stand continually before the Lord, upon the Porch, and they represent Torah and Prophets. Boaz is a representation of the Prophets, though he was great grandfather of king David and of Bethlehem-Judah, for the Book of Ruth is prophetic in that it concerns the Kinsman Redeemer who was to come, Yeshua the Messiah, of the line of Judah. However Boaz is stationed to the left hand side, which is to the north, and Yakin is stationed to the right hand side which is to the south. This we may know because the Molten Sea was also placed to the right hand side and it is surely stated to have been placed to the south, (2 Chronicles 4:10). If the Molten Sea is to the right side and this means it is to the south then so it is likewise concerning the Yakin Pillar. Yakin is therefore representative of Torah because his name is of the Priesthood, (twenty first course by lot, 1 Chronicles 24:17). Thus we have Torah, (Yakin) and Prophets, (Boaz) stationed tamiyd-continually upon the Porch, before the Lord, at the Door of the House of YHWH.

    The descriptions written concerning these two pillars are not easy to understand because certain words are intentionally used which have multiple meanings where the context needs to clarify what is intended. If the context does not clarify which meanings are intended then it generally portends that multiple understandings of the passage are actually intended as written. Ruwach, (spirit, wind, quarter, side) and Ro'sh, (head, chief, beginning, top) are two such examples. Another word employed concerning the two pillars is "paniym" which is used elsewhere such as in Ezekiel for the four faces of the Four Cherubim, (where "paniym" is also written "pney" just as it is in these passages). Paniym is a plural word making the understanding of these passages even more difficult to decipher because although it is a plural word it is generally used in the singular meaning "face", "countenance", "presence", "in the presence of", "before", etc., and likely because of the difficulties presented in these particular passages it is generally left out of the translations. Another point of confusion arises from the fact that two different words are employed to describe what the translators have assumed to be one and the same capital-chapiter; but what if they are not the same? These are the "beten" which is the belly, (which denotes "the mind" in supernal thinking) and the "gullah" which is a fountain, globe, or bowl, (also the "cistern of living waters"). If the pillars are to be understood according to the total height of thirty five cubits, as stated, then these two particular "chapiters" or pillar capitals cannot be one and the same. There is likewise one other capital-chapiter which is only three cubits in height and it is mentioned only in 2 Kings 25:17. Thus in combining the passages which are written concerning the two pillars of the Porch of the Solomon Temple one must come to the conclusion that there are not merely two capital-chapiters upon each pillar but rather three capital-chapiters upon each pillar:

    1) The Capital-Chapiter of the Pney-Faces: 5 Cubits Height
    2) The Capital-Chapiter of the Gullah-Cistern: 5 Cubits Height
    3) The Capital-Chapiter of the Beten-Belly above: 3 Cubits Height

    Original Strong's Ref. #7218
    Romanized ro'sh
    Pronounced roshe
    from an unused root apparently meaning to shake; the head (as most easily shaken), whether literal or figurative (in many applications, of place, time, rank, itc.):
    KJV--band, beginning, captain, chapiter, chief(-est place, man, things), company, end, X every [man], excellent, first, forefront, ([be-])head, height, (on) high(-est part, [priest]), X lead, X poor, principal, ruler, sum, top.

    Original Strong's Ref. #6440
    Romanized paniym
    Pronounced paw-neem'
    plural (but always as singular) of an unused noun [paneh {paw-neh'}; from HSN6437]; the face (as the part that turns); used in a great variety of applications (literally and figuratively); also (with prepositional prefix) as a preposition (before, etc.):
    KJV-- + accept, a-(be-)fore(-time), against, anger, X as (long as), at, + battle, + because (of), + beseech, countenance, edge, + employ, endure, + enquire, face, favour, fear of, for, forefront(-part), form(-er time, -ward), from, front, heaviness, X him(-self), + honourable, + impudent, + in, it, look[-eth] (-s), X me, + meet, X more than, mouth, of, off, (of) old (time), X on, open, + out of, over against, the partial, person, + please, presence, propect, was purposed, by reason of, + regard, right forth, + serve, X shewbread, sight, state, straight, + street, X thee, X them(-selves), through (+ -out), till, time(-s) past, (un-)to(-ward), + upon, upside (+ down), with(-in, + -stand), X ye, X you.

    Original Strong's Ref. #7799
    Romanized shuwshan
    Pronounced shoo-shan'
    or showshan {sho-shawn'}; or shoshan {sho-shawn'}; and (feminine) showshannah {sho-shan-naw'}; from HSN7797; a lily (from its whiteness), as a flower of arch. ornament; also a (straight) trumpet (from the tubular shape): lily, Shoshannim.

    Original Strong's Ref. #990
    Romanized beten
    Pronounced beh'-ten
    from an unused root probably meaning to be hollow; the belly, especially the womb; also the bosom or body of anything:
    KJV--belly, body, + as they be born, + within, womb.

    Original Strong's Ref. #1543
    Romanized gullah
    Pronounced gool-law'
    feminine from HSN1556; a fountain, bowl or globe (all as round):
    KJV--bowl, pommel, spring.

    1 Kings 7:15-22
    15. For he cast two pillars of brass, of
    eighteen cubits high apiece: and a line of twelve cubits did compass either of them about.
    16. And he made two capital-chapiters of molten brass, to set upon the
    ro'shey-heads of the pillars: the height of the one capital-chapiter was five cubits, and the height of the second capital-chapiter was five cubits:
    17. And nets of checker work, and wreaths of chain work, for the capital-chapiters which were upon the ro'sh-top of the pillars; seven for the one capital-chapiter, and seven for the second capital-chapiter.
    18. And so he made the pillars, and two rows round about upon the one network, to cover the capital-chapiters that were upon the
    ro'sh-top with pomegranates: and so did he for the second capital-chapiter.
    19. And the capital-chapiters that were upon the
    ro'sh-top of the pillars were of shushan-trumpet-lily work in the 'uwlam-enclosure, four cubits.
    20. And the capital-chapiters upon the two pillars had pomegranates also above, on the other side, at the
    beten-belly which was by the network: and the pomegranates were two hundred in rows round about upon the second capital-chapiter.
    21. And he set up the pillars in the porch of the temple: and he set up the right pillar, and called the name thereof Yakin: and he set up the left pillar, and called the name thereof Boaz.
    22. And upon the
    ro'sh-top of the pillars was shushan-trumpet-lily work: so was the work of the pillars completed.

    1 Kings 7:40-42
    40. And Hiram made the lavers, and the shovels, and the basons. So Hiram made an end of doing all the work that he made king Solomon for the house of the Lord:
    41. The two pillars, and the two gullot-globe capital-chapiters that were on the
    ro'sh-head of the two pillars; and the two networks, to cover the two gullot-globe capital-chapiters which were upon the ro'sh-head of the pillars;
    42. And four hundred pomegranates for the two networks, even two rows of pomegranates for one network, to cover the two gullot-globe capital-chapiters that were upon
    the pney-faces of the pillars.

    2 Kings 25:16-17
    16. The two pillars, one sea, and the bases which Solomon had made for the house of the Lord; the brass of all these vessels was without weight.
    17.
    The height of the one pillar was eighteen cubits, and the capital-chapiter upon him was brass: and the height of the capital-chapiter three cubits; and the wreathen work, and pomegranates upon the capital-chapiter round about, all of brass: and like unto these had the second pillar with wreathen work.

    2 Chronicles 3:15-17
    15. Also he made before the house two pillars of
    thirty and five cubits high, and the capital-chapiter that was on the ro'sh-head of each of them was five cubits.
    16. And he made chains in the oracle, and put them on the
    ro'sh-head of the pillars; and made an hundred pomegranates, and put them on the chains.
    17. And he reared up the pillars before the temple, one on the right hand, and the other on the left; and called the name of that on the right hand Yakin, and the name of that on the left Boaz.

    2 Chronicles 4:12-13
    12. To wit, the two pillars, and the gullot-globes, and the capital-chapiters which were on the
    ro'sh-top of the two pillars, and the two wreaths to cover the two gullot-globe capital-chapiters which were on the ro'sh-head of the pillars;
    13. And four hundred pomegranates on the two wreaths; two rows of pomegranates on each wreath, to cover the two gullot-globe capital-chapiters which were upon
    the pney-faces of the pillars.

    Jeremiah 52:21-23
    21. And concerning the pillars, the height of one pillar was
    eighteen cubits; and a fillet of twelve cubits did compass it; and the thickness thereof was four fingers: it was hollow.
    22. And a capital-chapiter of brass was upon it; and the height of one capital-chapiter was five cubits, with network and pomegranates upon the capital-chapiters round about, all of brass. The second pillar also and the pomegranates were like unto these.
    23.
    And there were ninety and six pomegranates on a ruachah-spirit-quarter-side; and all the pomegranates upon the network were an hundred round about.

    The ancient stone pillar socket of Yakin remains upon the Temple Mount in Jerusalem unto this day. It is likely that the author of the following "Temple location theory" is correct simply alone because of the measurement of the pillar socket being precisely ten cubits to the right of what would have been the center line of a twenty cubit original porch of the Solomon, (first) Temple. The author of the site makes the common mistake of naming this socket the "possible Boaz Pillar base" yet in the photography showing the socket base from a distance it is clear that looking towards the Mount of Olives this pillar socket is to the south and therefore would have been the base of the Yakin Pillar. The socket itself is part of the pavement which has been redone several times over yet this does not mean its location was ever changed. The back circle of the four circle "Solomon's Knot" pillar socket appears to have been sawed off to accommodate another later Temple project. The Pillars Boaz and Yakin are likewise "four footed" because the pillars themselves have four faces and four sides which are one. Boaz and Yakin were designed in the shape of what is commonly known as "Solomon's Knot" which is the shape of a four leaf clover and which same shape then the two eighteen cubit column sections of the pillars would have as the "footprint" at the base of the pillars.

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    http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2008/temple.html

    This second image file is of a typical Herodian pillar base revealing that the socket-base design was probably duplicated in the second Temple era, (thus creating confusion as to whether the first socket is from the first or second Temple era). This image file is included here also because of the curious "triangle" etched into the side of the pillar near the base-socket, (inside the black outline square). This is not something that someone just decided one day to etch into the side of a magnificent Herodian pillar but more likely a scribal quarry marking for a notch hidden in the pillar beneath, inside the base, from the time when the pillar itself was to have been first stood up into its socket. Thus the hidden notches inside the base sockets of the circular pillars would bear the "footprint" resemblance of a split or "cloven" calf's hoof.

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    Each Pillar has one checker network which is likened to a fisherman's net, (such is the kingdom of heaven according to the doctrine of the Master). The first capital upon the top of each eighteen cubit column is a capital of five cubits height and is the chapiter of the four pney-faces or heads. These four countenances are one and therefore written as one singular ro'sh-head or pney-face. The second capital which sits upon the pney-faces chapiter is the gullah-fountain-cistern chapiter which is also five cubits in height. It is the gullah-cistern capital which is covered with the fisherman's checker network. The fisherman's checker network itself is not fastened to the gullah-cistern-bowl capital but rather to the two capital-chapiters above and below the gullah-cistern. Thus the beten-belly capital-chapiter, which is only three cubits height, is above the greater gullah-cistern and has upon it the first of the seven chains which are upon each pillar. This first chain above upon the beten-belly chapiter is one of the two chains on each pillar with a hundred pomegranate-fruits on each chain used to fasten the fisherman's network to the pillar. The second chain with a hundred pomegranate-fruits is below the gullah-cistern-bowl chapiter upon the capital-chapiter of the pney-faces, (five cubits height). Thus each pillar has two chains with an hundred pomegranates each which fasten the fisherman's checker network wreath above and below the greater gullah-cistern chapiter. Two pillars, seven chains each, two chains on each pillar with a hundred pomegranates each, four hundred pomegranates total on the four chains bearing fruit.

    One Pillar: Three Chapiters - One Fisherman's Net - Seven Chains
    Five Chains Bearing No Pomegranate-Fruits
    Two Chains Bearing Pomegranate-Fruits

    Pillar Column Height: 18 Cubits
    Capital-Chapiter of the Pney-Faces: 5 Cubits Height
    Capital-Chapiter of the Gullah-Cistern: 5 Cubits Height
    Capital-Chapiter of the Beten-Belly above: 3 Cubits Height
    Shushan Trumpet Lilies in the uwlam-enclosure: 4 Cubits
    Total Pillar Height: 35 Cubits

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    "And knowing the grace that was given unto me, Iakobos, and Kephas, Ioannes, those being accounted as PILLARS: they gave to me and Barnabas the dexios-right side of a koinonia-fellowship; to the intent that we might go to the Ethnos, and they to the Circumcision."

    Seven Chains Yakin:


    1) Rome
    2) Corinth
    3) Galatia
    4) Ephesus 2
    5) Philippi
    6) Colosse
    7) Thessalonike

    Seven Chains Boaz:


    1) Ephesus 1
    2) Smyrna (Pomegranates)
    3) Pergamos
    4) Thyatira
    5) Sardis
    6) Philadelphia (Pomegranates)
    7) Laodikea

    These are two of the Cherubim which guard the Way of the Tree of Life which is in Gan Eden the Garden of God. Likewise there are two Cherubim of Olive Tree wood inside the Oracle, the Holy Holies, and these are hammered-overlain with pure gold having been tried in the fire, ("O Ye Cherubim"). The Master therefore counsels Laodicea and all the congregations to purchase from him gold having been tried in the fire:

    Revelation 3:17-22 KJV
    17. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
    18. I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
    19. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
    20. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
    21. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
    22. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
     
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