the 1335 days, the 1290 days, the 45 days

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Hi Davy,

That thousand years is NOT called the Day of the Lord, though I agree that it is IN the Day of the Lord period of time. Joel 2 shows us (& other prophecies) that the Day of the LORD is also a period of time.

I think you should look at Joel 2 again. It is actually showing those are events leading up... to the "day of the Lord". So it is referring to the "day of the Lord" as a specific 'day', the last day of this world. We know this also because of the "sudden destruction" prophecy by Paul in 1 Thess.5, and the event of God's consuming fire burning man's works off the earth on that "day of the Lord", per 2 Peter 3:10.
 

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I think you should look at Joel 2 again. It is actually showing those are events leading up... to the "day of the Lord". So it is referring to the "day of the Lord" as a specific 'day', the last day of this world. We know this also because of the "sudden destruction" prophecy by Paul in 1 Thess.5, and the event of God's consuming fire burning man's works off the earth on that "day of the Lord", per 2 Peter 3:10.
Perhaps we need to look at Joel 2 & 3 for if you say they are leading to the specific day of the LORD I agree. Yet, they also show the Day of the LORD period of time -

1. Northern army dealt with. (Joel 2: 20)

2. World`s army gathering and coming down to the valley of Jehosaphat where God will judge them. (Joel 3: 12)
 

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No. There is the faith/moral Departure before the trib and the only real Rapture after the trib.



I'm not the one who is confused.
Apologies ewq, I could have asked questions instead.
Do you believe in partial/multiple raptures for the Gal 3:28, 1 Cor 12:13, Col 3:11 believers ?
If so can you list the verses from Paul that support your view ?
 

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Apologies ewq, I could have asked questions instead.
Do you believe in partial/multiple raptures for the Gal 3:28, 1 Cor 12:13, Col 3:11 believers ?
If so can you list the verses from Paul that support your view ?

I already provided the answer in my last post.
 

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What verses from Paul did you quote that supports a partial or multiple rapture of the Saints from this current 'age' ?

Asking the same moot question doesn't benefit anyone.
 

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Asking the same moot question doesn't benefit anyone.
If there were you would have listed the verses by now.
Conclusion, only 1 rapture of the Gal 3:28, 1 Cor 12:13, Col 3:11 saints.
 

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The end times are going to be something great, but the interesting thing, these moments of God in all His influence will not sway the world.
 

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More than one rapture of the Body of Christ ?
Wow, you really have been hit with a confusion stick :doldrums:
You can't get any more confused than thinking that there will be a pre-trib rapture. The rapture will clearly be post-trib and it's not even debatable as far as I'm concerned.

Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Who are the elect? Those who are in the church, of course.

Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Who are the elect that will be gathered "from the uttermost part of heaven"? The souls of the dead in Christ, according to Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4:14. Who are the elect that will be gathered "from the uttermost part of the earth"? Those who are alive and remain until Christ's second coming together with the resurrected and changed bodies of the dead in Christ which will be united with their souls and spirits. When will they all be gathered? AFTER the tribulation of those days, according to Jesus. Jesus clearly taught a post-trib rapture, so only confusion (being hit with a confusion stick?) can result in believing in a pre-trib rapture.
 

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A cpl of things that should be crystal clear to anyone not doctrinally biased in this case. One cannot reach day 1335 without it involving the 1290 days first. If one were to count 1 by 1, from 0 to 1335, they are obviously going to count to 1290 before they reach 1335. After all, it is mathematically absurd that after 0, the next number is not 1, it is 291, therefore bypassing 1-290 altogether.

The point then is this. In Daniel 12 we see the following.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.


What should this be telling any thinking person not letting doctrinal bias' stand in their way? For one, one thing any thinking person is going to notice, is this in verse 13--and stand in thy lot at the end of the days. Then they are going to notice, as of verse 12, there are no more days mentioned. Therefore, it obviously means the 1335th day must be meaning when Daniel shall stand in his lot at the end of the days. And that it obviously has to be meaning this 1335th day is also meaning verse 2 in Daniel 12 since Daniel obviously can't stand in his lot at the end of the days unless he is bodily raised from the dead first.

Keeping in mind, it it is impossible to reach 1335 without it involving 1290 first. Therefore, since verse 12 is obviously meaning when Daniel shall stand in his lot at the end of the days, this 1290 days that proceed day 1335 must happen within this same era of time that day 1335 is involving. Also keeping in mind, in Matthew 24 Jesus placed the time of the AOD in the future. Some think it was involving 70 AD. Yet Daniel 12:2 proves otherwise since no bodily resurrection of the dead ever took place after 70 AD.

And some interpreters are even sillier about the AOD recorded in verse 11. They insist it involved the days of Antiochus 4 E.
 

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Perhaps we need to look at Joel 2 & 3 for if you say they are leading to the specific day of the LORD I agree. Yet, they also show the Day of the LORD period of time -

1. Northern army dealt with. (Joel 2: 20)

2. World`s army gathering and coming down to the valley of Jehosaphat where God will judge them. (Joel 3: 12)

I well understand how to rightly divide the prophetic timelines written in God's Word. So I don't need teaching about that.

All these Joel 2 verses are of events that occur just prior... to the "day of the Lord."

Joel 2:1-10
2 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in My holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD
cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
KJV


Joel 2:12-17
12 Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to Me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:
13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for He is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth Him of the evil.
14 Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God?
15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:
16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare Thy people, O LORD, and give not Thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?
KJV

Joel 2:30-31
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
KJV


Then the following Joel 2 verses are for the "day of the Lord" and thereafter...

Joel 2:11
11 And the LORD shall utter His voice before His army: for His camp is very great: for He is strong that executeth His word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
KJV

Joel 2:18-27
18 Then will the LORD be jealous for His land, and pity His people.
19 Yea, the LORD will answer and say unto His people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen:
20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.
21 Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things.
22 Be not afraid, ye beasts of the field: for the pastures of the wilderness do spring, for the tree beareth her fruit, the fig tree and the vine do yield their strength.
23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for He hath given you the former rain moderately, and He will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.
24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil.
25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, My great army which I sent among you.
26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and My people shall never be ashamed.
27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and My people shall never be ashamed.
KJV

Joel 2:32
32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
KJV
 

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You can't get any more confused than thinking that there will be a pre-trib rapture. The rapture will clearly be post-trib and it's not even debatable as far as I'm concerned.

Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Who are the elect? Those who are in the church, of course.

Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Who are the elect that will be gathered "from the uttermost part of heaven"? The souls of the dead in Christ, according to Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4:14. Who are the elect that will be gathered "from the uttermost part of the earth"? Those who are alive and remain until Christ's second coming together with the resurrected and changed bodies of the dead in Christ which will be united with their souls and spirits. When will they all be gathered? AFTER the tribulation of those days, according to Jesus. Jesus clearly taught a post-trib rapture, so only confusion (being hit with a confusion stick?) can result in believing in a pre-trib rapture.
You can't get any more confused than thinking that there will be a pre-trib rapture. The rapture will clearly be post-trib and it's not even debatable as far as I'm concerned.
Yes, as far as I'm concerned that's your opinion :)
Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation,
Yes, happens AFTER the 1 Cor 15:51-52, 1 Thess 4:14-17 pre-trib rapture :)
Thanks for your thoughts Si
 

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A cpl of things that should be crystal clear to anyone not doctrinally biased in this case. One cannot reach day 1335 without it involving the 1290 days first. If one were to count 1 by 1, from 0 to 1335, they are obviously going to count to 1290 before they reach 1335. After all, it is mathematically absurd that after 0, the next number is not 1, it is 291, therefore bypassing 1-290 altogether.

The point then is this. In Daniel 12 we see the following.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.


What should this be telling any thinking person not letting doctrinal bias' stand in their way? For one, one thing any thinking person is going to notice, is this in verse 13--and stand in thy lot at the end of the days. Then they are going to notice, as of verse 12, there are no more days mentioned. Therefore, it obviously means the 1335th day must be meaning when Daniel shall stand in his lot at the end of the days. And that it obviously has to be meaning this 1335th day is also meaning verse 2 in Daniel 12 since Daniel obviously can't stand in his lot at the end of the days unless he is bodily raised from the dead first.

Keeping in mind, it it is impossible to reach 1335 without it involving 1290 first. Therefore, since verse 12 is obviously meaning when Daniel shall stand in his lot at the end of the days, this 1290 days that proceed day 1335 must happen within this same era of time that day 1335 is involving. Also keeping in mind, in Matthew 24 Jesus placed the time of the AOD in the future. Some think it was involving 70 AD. Yet Daniel 12:2 proves otherwise since no bodily resurrection of the dead ever took place after 70 AD.

And some interpreters are even sillier about the AOD recorded in verse 11. They insist it involved the days of Antiochus 4 E.

And Jesus said the GT would be shortened and we see in Rev there being 1260 days/42 months so the longer times found in Daniel cannot be valid anymore.
 

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And Jesus said the GT would be shortened and we see in Rev there being 1260 days/42 months so the longer times found in Daniel cannot be valid anymore.

I think I have a solution. It of course won't agree with any of Douggg's charts. But what does agree with Douggg's charts? Pretty much nothing. Right?

1260 days are 75 days before 1335 days. This 75 days could be involving the last 7 vials of wrath. Unlike what Douggg is proposing, that GT ends at day 1335, that is not what I'm proposing, though. Therefore, day 1335 is still correct. It doesn't change anything about the GT having been shortened.

In Matthew 24:29 that is meaning immediately after great tribulation yet prior to the coming in verse 30. Therefore, these 75 days might fit there. 1260 days for great tribulation followed by 75 days for the vials of wrath.

Revelation 16:8 ¶And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.


Take this vial, for example. Though they don't repent, repenting is still an option. Can't imagine Christ having already bodily returned at this point. Especially in light of this below.

Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.


Why would we be told that between the 6th and 7th vial if Christ had already returned earlier? I don't see that making sense. Nor do I see it making sense that all 7 vials can get unleashed in a single day. Nor do I see it making any sense that any of the 7 vials are meaning during great tribulation. The wrath of God is after GT, not during it, is my take on it. Therefore, Matthew 24:29 appears to be the best fit for the last 7 vials of wrath. Or maybe the last 6, where during 7th vial Christ has bodily returned.
 

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1260 days are 75 days before 1335 days. This 75 days could be involving the last 7 vials of wrath. Unlike what Douggg is proposing, that GT ends at day 1335, that is not what I'm proposing, though. Therefore, day 1335 is still correct. It doesn't change anything about the GT having been shortened.

1335 was part of the OT GT, and no such day exists in NT prophecy so I would say it was done away with when God decided to change how long the GT would be, which would affect OT prophecy quite a lot.
 

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You can't get any more confused than thinking that there will be a pre-trib rapture. The rapture will clearly be post-trib and it's not even debatable as far as I'm concerned.
Yes, as far as I'm concerned that's your opinion :)
That you can't possibly refute. You noticeably aren't even attempting to do so. Pre-trib dispensationalism simply cannot be supported by scripture. That has been proven over and over again on this forum.

Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation,
Yes, happens AFTER the 1 Cor 15:51-52, 1 Thess 4:14-17 pre-trib rapture :)
Keep reading. The gathering of the elect is said to happen after the tribulation. How do you get a pre-trib rapture from that?
 

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That you can't possibly refute. You noticeably aren't even attempting to do so. Pre-trib dispensationalism simply cannot be supported by scripture. That has been proven over and over again on this forum.


Keep reading. The gathering of the elect is said to happen after the tribulation. How do you get a pre-trib rapture from that?
""Keep reading. The gathering of the elect is said to happen after the tribulation.""
The rapture happens in the TWINKLE OF AN EYE - 1 Cor 15:52
How long does THE GATHERING take ?
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What's 'age' is Mark 13:24 referring to >>> The PROPHETIC Age.
What age are we currently in ? The MYSTERY Age
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""Pre-trib dispensationalism simply cannot be supported by scripture.""
 

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This is incorrect—again. You’re trying to overlap the 1,290 days and the 1,335 days as if these are literal numbers you can juggle around on a calendar. That is not how God presents them. The 1,260, 1,290, and 1,335 days all begin from the same starting point—Day 0 (or Day 1). These numbers are spiritual benchmarks, not a set of literal dates for you to manipulate at will.
I have explained this before to Douggg elsewhere. He has gotten it a smidge, but still is confused overall.

QUESTION, why would God change His symmetry in the middle of one chapter? That is not God's style, he is always symmetrical. Why is it no one actually reads what Dan. 12:6's question from the angel is? It says "HOW LONG UNTL ALL THESE WONDERS END" so, the 1260, is the middle of the week and in vs. 7 Jesus or the Man in Linen says basically this in short, Israel will be conquered for 1260 days and then all these wonders will end. Well what ends the AC/Beast rule over Israel after 1260 days? Jesus' 2nd coming, so you all miss, (as most everyone does, it was locked up until the end) what this means. So, Jesus is saying from the middle of the week Conquering until all these wonders (Dan. 11:36-45) there will be1260 days, so the fulcrum point in all three numbers are not the actual day they start on, but the 2nd Coming ending ALL THESE WONDERS or THINGS as Dan. 12:8 says.

Dan. 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

It is the exact same type question, when will all THESE THINGS END..........END, the END is the fulcrum point.

So, when we get the 1335 and 1290, we have to understand they also end with Jesus' 2nd coming. The hard part is going through scriptures to figure out what is the assoc. with these other 2 numbers, we know the 1260 is about the AC/Beast, even though it does not specifically say so in vs. 7, it just gives us hints that allows us to solve this elsewhere in scriptures. Well, so does the other 2, but we have a blinds pot, we were all taught by Paul tht it is the AC/Beast standing up in the holy temple, but reread Matt. 24:15-17 Jesus seems to say its something STANDING in the holy place not SOMEONE, and Rev. 13 seems to say its a graven image of the First Beast that the 2nd Beast (FP) makes and places there. So it will be a Jewish High Priest that places this image, 30 days before the AC conquers Israel, at the 1290, which is 1290 days before the 2nd Coming, which is 30 days before the Conquering. Now we know why Jesus tells them to Flee Judea at the AoD sign, the Beast will be conquering Israel at the 1260, or 30 days later.

So, the 1335 comes 45 days before the 1290 and 75 days before Israel is conquered. I am not just guessing, I worked it all out, I did not believe it myself when the holy spirit whispered thus unto me, but I always try the spirits first. It all fit, Israel getting 30 days to flee just made sense. Now, who were the 1336 Blessing? Then it hit me, in Malachi 4:5-6 we see Elijah was promised to return BEFORE the DOTL which is the 1260, and the 1335 is 75 days before the 1260, and why would 1/3 of the Jews repent if they had not heard the gospel from the two-witnesses? We know this is the correct timing because Zech. 13:8-9 says the 1/3 repent and the very next verse (Zech. 14:1) says the DOTL has arrived, and Jerusalem gets conquered. So, the blessing is these Jews see the Two-witnesses showing up to preach Christ slain for our sins, and it just so happens to be Elijah & Moses (I think).

Each number is an event, the Two-witnesses are the 1335 Blessing, they get Israel to repent, at least 1/3 do and that is 5 Million Jews. The 1290 is this Jewish High Priest in league with the E.U. Beast (President) but why is he in league with a E.U. King/President? Because the Dan. 9:27 AGREEMENT (means Covenant) is simply this, Israel is going to join the E.U. and that is when the 70th week starts, they "give his land away" and this kicks off both the Rapture and 70th week.

So, imagine an Orthodox Jewish High Priest who sees millions of Conversions unto Christ, that is one thing but then they come to the temple praising Jesus as THEIR God, worshiping Jesus, singing songs to Jesus, this High Priest is going to be very angry. He will FORBID Jesus Worship (TAKES AWAY THE SACRIFICE) like Dan. 9:27 states, AND we know the 2nd Beast (FP) makes an IMAGE to the first beast (Rev. 13) and places it in the temple. So, the FP fulfills both those 1290 Prophesies, the AC can't because he can only go forth conquering at the 1260 Middle of the week, not 30 days before the Middle of the week.

What is so funny, I had to do an exegesis of Dan. 11, the full chapter, or I never would have saw the ARCHETYPES of the AC/Beast and False Prophet living at the same time over 2000 years ago. Jason bribed Antiochus Epiphanes (AE4) to be named the high priest, having his pious high priest brother Onias III killed. Jason (real name Yeshua) then welcomed AE4 into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus, ad he MANDATED that all Jews become Hellenized, leading unto the Maccabean Revolt. So, the END-TIME AC will likewise, fall in with a Jewish High Priest gone rogue.

Guess what is the last piece of the puzzle that made me say, OK, this is 100% true? The TIMING TELLS in Revelation. Why does God give both the Beast AND the Two-witnesses 1260 day ordained offices? So, by telling who DIES FIRST we have to know who SHOWS UP FIRST (it is simple math). Since the 2 Witnesses die BEFORE the Beast dies on day 1260 of his reign at Jesus' 2nd coming, at the 7th Vial, we know the coming Two-witnesses dies at the 2nd Woe, so their Ordination has to start BEFORE the Beasts 1260 conquering starts, and WHY NOT..........I mean their job is to get Israel to repent, so why tart after the get conquered? I think Malachi 4:5 and Zech. 13:8-8 and 14:1 clearly shows they show up JUST BEFORE the DOTL Middle of the week, 1260 event starts.
 

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I have explained this before to Douggg elsewhere. He has gotten it a smidge, but still is confused overall.

QUESTION, why would God change His symmetry in the middle of one chapter? That is not God's style, he is always symmetrical. Why is it no one actually reads what Dan. 12:6's question from the angel is? It says "HOW LONG UNTL ALL THESE WONDERS END" so, the 1260, is the middle of the week and in vs. 7 Jesus or the Man in Linen says basically this in short, Israel will be conquered for 1260 days and then all these wonders will end. Well what ends the AC/Beast rule over Israel after 1260 days? Jesus' 2nd coming, so you all miss, (as most everyone does, it was locked up until the end) what this means. So, Jesus is saying from the middle of the week Conquering until all these wonders (Dan. 11:36-45) there will be1260 days, so the fulcrum point in all three numbers are not the actual day they start on, but the 2nd Coming ending ALL THESE WONDERS or THINGS as Dan. 12:8 says.

Dan. 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

It is the exact same type question, when will all THESE THINGS END..........END, the END is the fulcrum point.

So, when we get the 1335 and 1290, we have to understand they also end with Jesus' 2nd coming. The hard part is going through scriptures to figure out what is the assoc. with these other 2 numbers, we know the 1260 is about the AC/Beast, even though it does not specifically say so in vs. 7, it just gives us hints that allows us to solve this elsewhere in scriptures. Well, so does the other 2, but we have a blinds pot, we were all taught by Paul tht it is the AC/Beast standing up in the holy temple, but reread Matt. 24:15-17 Jesus seems to say its something STANDING in the holy place not SOMEONE, and Rev. 13 seems to say its a graven image of the First Beast that the 2nd Beast (FP) makes and places there. So it will be a Jewish High Priest that places this image, 30 days before the AC conquers Israel, at the 1290, which is 1290 days before the 2nd Coming, which is 30 days before the Conquering. Now we know why Jesus tells them to Flee Judea at the AoD sign, the Beast will be conquering Israel at the 1260, or 30 days later.

So, the 1335 comes 45 days before the 1290 and 75 days before Israel is conquered. I am not just guessing, I worked it all out, I did not believe it myself when the holy spirit whispered thus unto me, but I always try the spirits first. It all fit, Israel getting 30 days to flee just made sense. Now, who were the 1336 Blessing? Then it hit me, in Malachi 4:5-6 we see Elijah was promised to return BEFORE the DOTL which is the 1260, and the 1335 is 75 days before the 1260, and why would 1/3 of the Jews repent if they had not heard the gospel from the two-witnesses? We know this is the correct timing because Zech. 13:8-9 says the 1/3 repent and the very next verse (Zech. 14:1) says the DOTL has arrived, and Jerusalem gets conquered. So, the blessing is these Jews see the Two-witnesses showing up to preach Christ slain for our sins, and it just so happens to be Elijah & Moses (I think).

Each number is an event, the Two-witnesses are the 1335 Blessing, they get Israel to repent, at least 1/3 do and that is 5 Million Jews. The 1290 is this Jewish High Priest in league with the E.U. Beast (President) but why is he in league with a E.U. King/President? Because the Dan. 9:27 AGREEMENT (means Covenant) is simply this, Israel is going to join the E.U. and that is when the 70th week starts, they "give his land away" and this kicks off both the Rapture and 70th week.

So, imagine an Orthodox Jewish High Priest who sees millions of Conversions unto Christ, that is one thing but then they come to the temple praising Jesus as THEIR God, worshiping Jesus, singing songs to Jesus, this High Priest is going to be very angry. He will FORBID Jesus Worship (TAKES AWAY THE SACRIFICE) like Dan. 9:27 states, AND we know the 2nd Beast (FP) makes an IMAGE to the first beast (Rev. 13) and places it in the temple. So, the FP fulfills both those 1290 Prophesies, the AC can't because he can only go forth conquering at the 1260 Middle of the week, not 30 days before the Middle of the week.

What is so funny, I had to do an exegesis of Dan. 11, the full chapter, or I never would have saw the ARCHETYPES of the AC/Beast and False Prophet living at the same time over 2000 years ago. Jason bribed Antiochus Epiphanes (AE4) to be named the high priest, having his pious high priest brother Onias III killed. Jason (real name Yeshua) then welcomed AE4 into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus, ad he MANDATED that all Jews become Hellenized, leading unto the Maccabean Revolt. So, the END-TIME AC will likewise, fall in with a Jewish High Priest gone rogue.

Guess what is the last piece of the puzzle that made me say, OK, this is 100% true? The TIMING TELLS in Revelation. Why does God give both the Beast AND the Two-witnesses 1260 day ordained offices? So, by telling who DIES FIRST we have to know who SHOWS UP FIRST (it is simple math). Since the 2 Witnesses die BEFORE the Beast dies on day 1260 of his reign at Jesus' 2nd coming, at the 7th Vial, we know the coming Two-witnesses dies at the 2nd Woe, so their Ordination has to start BEFORE the Beasts 1260 conquering starts, and WHY NOT..........I mean their job is to get Israel to repent, so why tart after the get conquered? I think Malachi 4:5 and Zech. 13:8-8 and 14:1 clearly shows they show up JUST BEFORE the DOTL Middle of the week, 1260 event starts.
Ronald, make a timeline chart of your view of the 1290 days and the 1335 days - where they fit into the seven years.

Here's mine.

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