The antichrist (coming false messiah)

[Timtofly]

An idol is not a man whether it can travel at 60 MPH, fly, or walk and talk.

Yes but this is the one you claim to be a man, you go figure.

 

[dad]

Yes but this is the one you claim to be a man, you go figure.

You claim the abomination of desolation that stands where it ought not is a man....because..?

 

[Timtofly]

Satan can possess a man. He is not a man. The man of sin is a man...possessed of Satan.

These are your words, not mine.
the man of sin - desolation of abomination

 

[dad]

These are your words, not mine.

They sure are. So?

 

[Joseph77]

Greeks did get converted.

a few did, yes.

 

[Joseph77]

"The Antichrist will be a man so wicked that, bad as other men are, wickedness should be his mark by
which he is distinguished from all others; a man who belongs to sin, in whom the ideal of sin has
become realised and incarnate. What kind of sin will be most prominent in him is not expressed in the
word itself; but the context points clearly to that which is, in fact, the crowning sin-spiritual pride
and rebellious arrogancy." -Ellicott commentary on 2 Thessalonians 2:3

He will be accepted and even hailed, worshiped, by all the world.

Already on forums, in the news, everywhere, those ways are acceptable and accepted.

 

[dad]

a few did, yes.

? I hear the first mosque in Greece was being built or opened just a few months ago. It does seem that Greece was quite impacted by the gospel.

 

[Joseph77]

? I hear the first mosque in Greece was being built or opened just a few months ago. It does seem that Greece was quite impacted by the gospel.

That has no connection with the gospel.

Are you in some group that claims otherwise?

 

[dad]

These are your words, not mine.
the man of sin - desolation of abomination

So your point is that the abomination of desolation is a person, not an idol. I have heard that opinion. Try to remember it is just opinion.

 

[dad]

That has no connection with the gospel.

Are you in some group that claims otherwise?

If Greece has oodles of Christian churches over the ages, and only recently even got the first mosque, that seems to indicate a powerful presence of Christian influence, no? That means they were affected by Christians.

 

[Joseph77]

If Greece has oodles of Christian churches over the ages, and only recently even got the first mosque, that seems to indicate a powerful presence of Christian influence, no? That means they were affected by Christians.

No. See? Christendom thru those ages, and Christianity, are very different things all along.
Yes, they were likely very infected with Christendom, as was much of the world if not all, but Christians were few as Jesus says, few everywhere or anywhere.

 

[dad]

No. See? Christendom thru those ages, and Christianity, are very different things all along.
Yes, they were likely very infected with Christendom, as was much of the world if not all, but Christians were few as Jesus says, few everywhere or anywhere.

Ah, the no true Scotsman fallacy. Greece you think was not really impacted by the gospel because only a select few people in your mind were true believers. Hmmm

 

[Joseph77]

Ah, the no true Scotsman fallacy. Greece you think was not really impacted by the gospel because only a select few people in your mind were true believers. Hmmm

No. Read what Scripture says. All else you have been deceived by remains deception.

 

[Joseph77]

...nm.... settled...

 

[Timtofly]

So your point is that the abomination of desolation is a person, not an idol. I have heard that opinion. Try to remember it is just opinion.

Saying the antichrist is a person is also an opinion that 99% here have, and it is false.
Revelation 13:14-15
"it tells them to make an image honoring the beast that was struck by the sword but came alive again.
15 It was allowed to put breath into the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could even speak"

Does not sound like a person to me.

My claim was that Satan created his own image, a being, and gave it life. Calling it a person is not unheard of.

Person: a human being regarded as an individual.
The point is not always on being human, but being individual.

The whole issue is that this individual starts out like Adam, without a mom and dad.

 

[dad]

Saying the antichrist is a person is also an opinion that 99% here have, and it is false.

One of his names is the man of sin. Think again.

Revelation 13:14-15
"it tells them to make an image honoring the beast that was struck by the sword but came alive again.
15 It was allowed to put breath into the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could even speak"

Does not sound like a person to me.

Me either. Who says it was?

My claim was that Satan created his own image, a being, and gave it life. Calling it a person is not unheard of.

Ha. Sorry. God creates. People don't come from somewhere else. The devil may give life to some computer or robot or whatever, that does not mean he created anything.

The whole issue is that this individual starts out like Adam, without a mom and dad.

Great, so that issue is absolute nonsense then. Anything else?

 

[dad]

No. Read what Scripture says. All else you have been deceived by remains deception.

You are rambling incoherently.

 

[Joseph77]

...nm settled....

 

[Joseph77]

To ask again, : So, you're a Scotsman ? no? Catholic? no? free mason? no? muslim? no? what then?

 

[dad]

"All else" .... "you have been deceived by" (anything that deceived you) "remains deception" (anything that deceived you remains deception if you are remaining deceived) This is true of everyone, anywhere....

Try to post coherently and reply to a poster rather than more than one.