The Beast Revelation

[David in NJ]

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

I never denied our need for salvation, and you know that.

I said we are not responsible for Adam’s sin, we commit our own sins.

No worry brother as i know that from you = thank you

That is why i said: "Denying the need for Salvation is denying what God has said about sin and mankind."

You are in a precarious position(not evil) because you believe that an infant can be saved apart from Salvation.

Which is why i keep sharing ALL of Scripture on this subject.

 

[David in NJ]

I just realized that my friend. I had this conversation a long time ago and I'm like REALLY? if you don't think you are infected with sin, then are you still running with the world?

We are all infected with sin from conception

Psalm 51:5 =

For I acknowledge my transgressions,
And my sin is always before me.
4Against You, You only, have I sinned,
And done this evil in Your sight—
That You may be found just when You speak,
And blameless when You judge.
5Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me.
6Behold, You desire truth in the inward parts,
And in the hidden part You will make me to know wisdom.

 

[Bladerunner]

The following is an exchange of ideas on a popular forum. I thought that it was quite indicative of the state of the Christian mind today.

BH said:
"In no reality does Hamas represent those who have not taken the brand. They are murderers, liars, they kill babies, rape women and call it divine, they manipulate the media to make themselves look better than they are, and those who live in darkness believe in media manipulation. I am sorry to tell you this, but your mind is in darkness, and the light of the Lord Jesus is far from your perception.

My answer follows.
Christians are deceived by their own interpretations. They believe in them so firmly that when the true meaning is presented, it is completely rejected. The Lord said that He would do a work in our day, which, even if it were told, would not be believed. Your problem goes back a long way. It begins with one failed interpretation after another. What I find so astonishing about this topic is that no matter how many times I am right, Christians will always deny what I have presented. In your world, you are waiting for some kind of mark that will be implemented worldwide. I have discussed this in the letter. The first thing you need to know is who is being talked about. If you say "all people", then you will already be starting from a false premise. Then, you'll need to imagine a series of circumstances to match your conclusions. The most revealing of your interpretations is that you say nothing. You do not provide any details, and it is always coming soon. What bothers me the most is that you hide the real answers. It is a total shame that a person spends his whole life learning his beliefs, and when the time comes to apply the meanings, has no idea. The Lord said to watch. You have failed in this undertaking. You did something though, you interpreted. Now you are waiting for your ideas to come true, which will never happen.

This paragraph is not part of the original response.

It is easy to discern from B.H.'s commentary a certain set of beliefs. What he believes is that Hamas could not be the one that did not accept the mark because they are terrorists. Meaning that the mark will be implemented on a different group. A group that does not commit terrorist acts. Who is this group? If you've been following these teachers for years, the answer is clear. All those who have not accepted the mark are Christians. Christians will not accept the mark because they do not want to worship the beast, even under the penalty of not being able to buy or sell. This is the set of beliefs that B. H. holds as truth while he disputes me, that I should accept as true, which he does not even realize has been corrupted. False teachings that have been accepted by the majority have turned the true meaning of Revelation 13 into a polar opposite. Why would anyone consider what I have to say when such false teachings are so widely believed? I just wanted to emphasize this point because it's a blinder over the eyes of anyone interested in Bible prophecy. michae1

BH, I agree with you for the majority of your post. However, to say that those who have not accepted the mark are Christians may be off the mark just a tad. During this time (Daniel's 70th week) it is true that many will take the Mark of the Beast and many will not. Many of those who do not take the mark believe in Jesus and are killed by the Beast. Thus they are martyred in the name of Jesus Christ, There are those that will survive Daniel's 70th week and not take the mark nor are they found and killed by the beast. Just how they survive is another subject to discuss, but it is evident that they will become the Sheep and Goats that Jesus pronounces judgment just prior to the beginning of the millennium. The Goats are thrown into the lake of fire and Brimstone and the sheep will become the gentiles during this period of time. They will have 100 years to decide to accept Christ. If not they too will be sent to the lake of fire should they decide in the negative. Of course the remnant of Israel will be given they New Covenant the Lord promised them and they will dwell in the full country God gave Abraham.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You know what you are saying is actually blasphemous when you get down to it. You are literally denying the need for a Savior.

Nonsense. We're each guilty of our own sins and we need salvation and forgiveness for our own sins, not Adam's. When people appear before Christ on judgment day they will give an account of themselves and their own actions, not Adam's. We inherit a sinful nature or tendency to sin from Adam, but we are each responsible for our own sins.

 

[Luther7]

Nonsense. We're each guilty of our own sins and we need salvation and forgiveness for our own sins, not Adam's. When people appear before Christ on judgment day they will give an account of themselves and their own actions, not Adam's. We inherit a sinful nature or tendency to sin from Adam, but we are each responsible for our own sins.

For as in Adam all die.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

For as in Adam all die.

Yeah? And? That means we inherit a sinful nature or tendency to sin from Adam. That does not mean we are responsible for Adam's sin. That's utter nonsense. Do you plan on answering for Adam's sin when you appear before Jesus to give an account of YOURSELF?

Romans 14:10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.”
12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God.

 

[Luther7]

Yeah? And? That means we inherit a sinful nature or tendency to sin from Adam. That does not mean we are responsible for Adam's sin. That's utter nonsense. Do you plan on answering for Adam's sin when you appear before Jesus to give an account of YOURSELF?

Romans 14:10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.”
12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God.

I never said we are responsible for Adam's sin. But because of Adam's sin we are all under the curse.

 

[William Barton]

Spiritual Israelite noted:​

<That does not mean we are responsible for Adam's sin>​

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Apostle Paul noted:​

<For if many died *through one man's trespass*...>​

(Romans 5:25)​

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[TribulationSigns]

I never said we are responsible for Adam's sin. But because of Adam's sin we are all under the curse.

Amen. SI clearly misunderstood.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Christian films often portray that all those who have not received the mark of the beast will be killed, this is a symbolic truth. The circumstances are true, but they missed the real meaning due to some failed interpretations. All those who have not taken the mark are killed, this part is true, but those who have not taken the mark are Hamas. The mark was given during the elections for the president of the Palestinian authority, which was boycotted by Hamas. Hamas has never received the mark. Films like to portray all people as subject to the mark. This part is wrong. It only affects those Palestinians who did not take the mark, and not the whole world. It is only Hamas. This makes the mark as what the letter indicates. It was the indelible ink brand given to those who voted in the Palestinian elections.​

No, the mark is a worldwide acceptance of the Beat/Antichrist ans Messiah. NOt all will die who do nt receive the mark. the bible is clear there will be survivors.

 

[TribulationSigns]

No, the mark is a worldwide acceptance of the Beat/Antichrist ans Messiah. NOt all will die who do nt receive the mark. the bible is clear there will be survivors.

Seriously?!

The idea that the mark of the beast is simply a worldwide acceptance of one individual whom you believe to be “the” Antichrist or “the” beast is not supported by the full context of Scripture. The mark is not presented as a mere physical object placed literally on the right hand or forehead. Revelation uses symbolic language throughout, and we must interpret these symbols spiritually rather than forcing a literal meaning onto them.

Revelation 13:16-17 says:
“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads...”

The question is: what does the hand and forehead represent? Scripture itself gives us the answer. God’s people are described as being sealed on their foreheads (Revelation 7:3; 14:1), representing belonging, identity, and allegiance to God. Likewise, the mark of the beast represents belonging and allegiance to Spirit of Satan, their spirit of disobedience. The right hand represents the will of your spirit of disobedience. It is not about a physical object but about whom a person follows and whose will they obey.

The beast with two horns like a lamb (Revelation 13:11) is not describing a single supernatural ruler like so-called Pope who suddenly appears to dominate the entire planet along with Antichrist. The imagery points to a body of deceptive power that those false prophet with appearance of Christ-like (“like a lamb”) but speaks like the dragon, their false doctrines. Have you already forgotten that in Matthew 24:24 when Christ warned us that the false christs and false prophets would arise and deceive many. This is the body of the second beast! These are not merely outside enemies, but deceivers who arise among God’s people inside the congregation... all over the world.

The purpose of this deception is to lead people within the visible congregation away from true worship and into allegiance with the beast. Those who have not been sealed by God are deceived because they believe the lies of false teachers rather than holding firmly to the testimony of Christ.

The mark, therefore, represents their agreement with Satan’s rebellion — their willingness to follow the will of the devil rather than the will of God. They have symbolically given their allegiance and worship to the beast. In contrast, the faithful elect refuse to worship the image of the beast or receive his mark (Revelation 14:9-12). Their testimony is rejected, silenced, and treated as though they are dead.

This is why Revelation describes the saints as those who “keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus” (Revelation 14:12).

Unfortunately, many are searching everywhere for a literal fulfillment — credit cards, artificial intelligence, implanted chips, or some future world dictator — while missing the spiritual warning Christ gave. The greatest danger is not merely an external system imposed upon the world, but deception within God congregation when she become Babylon the Great, corporately.

Jesus repeatedly warned His followers to watch, discern, and avoid deception (Matthew 24:4-5). The question Revelation forces us to ask is not simply, “What technology or person is the mark?” but rather, “Whose image do we bear, and whose voice do we follow?” Do you even know what is the image of the beast is?

Selah!