The Bible is Written in Metaphors

[Timtofly]

I am not sure why one would want to extend life on earth past it's expiration date.

 

[Joseph77]

Like in the other thread - what does the Bible say ?

The question then becomes which understanding is inline with Christ's?

 

[Joseph77]

All those humans, men, knowing or not, and all those fallen angels, don't want the world to end- they known their judgment is certain, and coming fast enough already......

I am not sure why one would want to extend life on earth past it's expiration date.

 

[Jay Ross]

Like in the other thread - what does the Bible say ?

Joseph, it sounds like you are putting yourself up there as an expert without justifying why you believe what you believe. Your "what does the Bible say" statement is arrogant as well as ignorant to say the least.

If you are as expert as you suggest, then show us how we can determine what the Bible says so that we can determine if we want to think in your manner.

So far you are like an annoying mosquito buzzing around people without adding to the conversation.

 

[Joseph77]

A little child can tell you - you don't need an expert.

 

[Timtofly]

Joseph, it sounds like you are putting yourself up there as an expert without justifying why you believe what you believe. Your "what does the Bible say" statement is arrogant as well as ignorant to say the least.

If you are as expert as you suggest, then show us how we can determine what the Bible says so that we can determine if we want to think in your manner.

So far you are like an annoying mosquito buzzing around people without adding to the conversation.

God sends mosquitos to keep us on our toes.

 

[Jay Ross]

God sends mosquitos to keep us on our toes.

But I do not like to dance at the moment as the other half of this conversation has hob nail boots on and his stomping is silencing any objections to his actions.

 

[Timtofly]

But I do not like to dance at the moment as the other half of this conversation has hob nail boots on and his stomping is silencing any objections to his actions.

If you start to pay attention, his post have more wisdom and insight than either of the two doing the dancing.

 

[Truther]

At least read the signs right....

13 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast(FALSE PROPHET/MAN) rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast(FALSE PROPHET/MAN) which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon(DEVIL) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast(FALSE PROPHET/MAN).

4 And they worshipped the dragon(DEVIL) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast(FALSE PROPHET/MAN), saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

The false prophet is the helper to the antichrist.

The beast is the antichrist.

The false prophet is not called the beast.

 

[Truther]

So all your posts are riddles, but not metaphors then.

Metaphorically speaking?

 

[Timtofly]

The false prophet is the helper to the antichrist.

The beast is the antichrist.

The false prophet is not called the beast.

Yes, the beast is a man (antichrist denotes a man who has been against Christ for almost 2500 years) is what I am trying to tell you.

The beast out of the sea (humanity) is a man, the false prophet. The beast out of the land, earth, from under the earth, Satan is the other beast.

 

[Joseph77]

Metaphorically speaking?

QUOTE="rockytopva, post: 719583, member: 3492"]In parables there are two things to be taken notice of, and to be inquired into of them that read.

First, The metaphors made use of.
Second, The doctrine or mysteries couched under such metaphors.

The metaphors in this parable are,
1. A certain man;
2. A vineyard;
3. A fig-tree, barren or fruitless;
4. A dresser;
5. Three years;
6. Digging and dunging, &c.

The doctrine, or mystery, couched under these words is to show us what is like to become of a fruitless or formal professor. For...

1. By the man in the parable is meant God the Father.
2. By the vineyard, his church.
3. By the fig-tree, a professor.
4. By the dresser, the Lord Jesus.
5. By the fig-tree’s barrenness, the professor's fruitlessness.
6. By the three years, the patience of God that for a time he extendeth to barren professors.
7. This calling to the dresser of the vineyard to cut it down, is to show the outcries of justice against fruitless professors.
8. The dresser's interceding is to show how the Lord Jesus steps in, and takes hold of the head of his Father's axe, to stop, or at least to defer, the present execution of a barren fig-tree.
9. The dresser's desire to try to make the fig-tree fruitful, is to show you how unwilling he is that even a barren fig-tree should yet be barren, and perish.
10. His digging about it, and dunging of it, is to show his willingness to apply gospel helps to this barren professor, if haply he may be fruitful.
11. The supposition that the fig-tree may yet continue fruitless, is to show, that when Christ Jesus hath done all, there are some professors will abide barren and fruitless.
12. The determination upon this supposition, at last to cut it down, is a certain prediction of such professor’s unavoidable and eternal damnation.[/QUOTE

 

[Jay Ross]

If you start to pay attention, his post have more wisdom and insight than either of the two doing the dancing.

Since he is the one wearing the hob nail boots, then the wisdom you are claiming are in his posts is being lost in the stomping of his shod feet.

What I have noticed is that he does not read and reflect on what others are posting and is very dismissive of the truths that they may have posted and states his pithy and short understanding on the topic without any substance to justify what he is attempting to say with his few words.

Nay, I think he like the sound of his own voice and posts accordingly.

 

[rockytopva]

QUOTE="rockytopva, post: 719583, member: 3492"]In parables there are two things to be taken notice of, and to be inquired into of them that read.

First, The metaphors made use of.
Second, The doctrine or mysteries couched under such metaphors.

The metaphors in this parable are,
1. A certain man;
2. A vineyard;
3. A fig-tree, barren or fruitless;
4. A dresser;
5. Three years;
6. Digging and dunging, &c.

The doctrine, or mystery, couched under these words is to show us what is like to become of a fruitless or formal professor. For...

1. By the man in the parable is meant God the Father.
2. By the vineyard, his church.
3. By the fig-tree, a professor.
4. By the dresser, the Lord Jesus.
5. By the fig-tree’s barrenness, the professor's fruitlessness.
6. By the three years, the patience of God that for a time he extendeth to barren professors.
7. This calling to the dresser of the vineyard to cut it down, is to show the outcries of justice against fruitless professors.
8. The dresser's interceding is to show how the Lord Jesus steps in, and takes hold of the head of his Father's axe, to stop, or at least to defer, the present execution of a barren fig-tree.
9. The dresser's desire to try to make the fig-tree fruitful, is to show you how unwilling he is that even a barren fig-tree should yet be barren, and perish.
10. His digging about it, and dunging of it, is to show his willingness to apply gospel helps to this barren professor, if haply he may be fruitful.
11. The supposition that the fig-tree may yet continue fruitless, is to show, that when Christ Jesus hath done all, there are some professors will abide barren and fruitless.
12. The determination upon this supposition, at last to cut it down, is a certain prediction of such professor’s unavoidable and eternal damnation.

Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.. - 1 Corinthians 14:29

Yes and after that there is provision in scripture to judge the interpretations of those metaphors. If everyone was right all the time there would be no need for this provision!

 

[Joseph77]

Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.. - 1 Corinthians 14:29

Yes and after that there is provision in scripture to judge the interpretations of those metaphors. If everyone was right all the time there would be no need for this provision!

(to be cont.) , God Willing......

 

[farouk]

I am trying to remember what I was like at 35yrs old - oh yes, knee deep in motherhood

For me 35 seems a loooong time ago...

I'm sure you have great memories...

 

[Rita]

For me 35 seems a loooong time ago...

I'm sure you have great memories...

Lol, no I am also at that stage of having selective memory !!!! ( I am 63 on Thursday )

 

[farouk]

Lol, no I am also at that stage of having selective memory !!!! ( I am 63 on Thursday )

Have a great day!

1 Samuel 7.12: EBENEZER: 'Hitherto hath the LORD helped us'.

 

[Truther]

QUOTE="rockytopva, post: 719583, member: 3492"]In parables there are two things to be taken notice of, and to be inquired into of them that read.

First, The metaphors made use of.
Second, The doctrine or mysteries couched under such metaphors.

The metaphors in this parable are,
1. A certain man;
2. A vineyard;
3. A fig-tree, barren or fruitless;
4. A dresser;
5. Three years;
6. Digging and dunging, &c.

The doctrine, or mystery, couched under these words is to show us what is like to become of a fruitless or formal professor. For...

1. By the man in the parable is meant God the Father.
2. By the vineyard, his church.
3. By the fig-tree, a professor.
4. By the dresser, the Lord Jesus.
5. By the fig-tree’s barrenness, the professor's fruitlessness.
6. By the three years, the patience of God that for a time he extendeth to barren professors.
7. This calling to the dresser of the vineyard to cut it down, is to show the outcries of justice against fruitless professors.
8. The dresser's interceding is to show how the Lord Jesus steps in, and takes hold of the head of his Father's axe, to stop, or at least to defer, the present execution of a barren fig-tree.
9. The dresser's desire to try to make the fig-tree fruitful, is to show you how unwilling he is that even a barren fig-tree should yet be barren, and perish.
10. His digging about it, and dunging of it, is to show his willingness to apply gospel helps to this barren professor, if haply he may be fruitful.
11. The supposition that the fig-tree may yet continue fruitless, is to show, that when Christ Jesus hath done all, there are some professors will abide barren and fruitless.
12. The determination upon this supposition, at last to cut it down, is a certain prediction of such professor’s unavoidable and eternal damnation.[/QUOTE

This was a real life individual man.

It is a comparison of a real person, not a metaphor.

Question, when you do comparisons to your friends and family, do you make up impossible stories in your head and convey them to make a point or use factual events to compare things?

 

[Joseph77]

False motives and intents, purposes, are revealed , exposed, daily, by God's Word.