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JunChosen

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This that Debp says is the truth and should be read twice by everyone. If we accept Jesus as our Savior it doesn't mean that, because He died on the Cross for our sins, that we are free to just go on sinning because the price was paid. Logic alone should make us understand that if we truly accept Jesus, we accept how he taught us to live. That means focusing on avoiding sin.
Firstly, it is impossible for anyone to "accept" Jesus, because we are all spiritually dead.

Secondly, if a person become "born again" he will still sin because his salvation is two parts. (see, Romans 7:14-25).

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Firstly, it is impossible for anyone to "accept" Jesus, because we are all spiritually dead.

Secondly, if a person become "born again" he will still sin because his salvation is two parts. (see, Romans 7:14-25).

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You need to get a valid Bible and read it.
 

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Firstly, it is impossible for anyone to "accept" Jesus, because we are all spiritually dead.

Secondly, if a person become "born again" he will still sin because his salvation is two parts. (see, Romans 7:14-25).

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I'd suggest you make the glory proclamation when you actually know what the Gospel of Jesus is.
 

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You need to get a valid Bible and read it.
What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

Can't make a comment?? Is not Romans 7:14-25 Scripture?? A child of God should be able to teach, as well as be taught also.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 reads:
16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works
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What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

Can't make a comment?? Is not Romans 7:14-25 Scripture?? A child of God should be able to teach, as well as be taught also.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 reads:
16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works
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To God Be The Glory
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I also suggest that you make the glory proclamation when you actually know what the Gospel of Jesus is. It's a common sense statement. You cannot have faith in any concept or person that you don't first accept.
 

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I'd suggest you make the glory proclamation when you actually know what the Gospel of Jesus is.
Please read post #24. Thank you. Plus this....
Most professing Christians do NOT understand Bible doctrines and its' interpretations!!

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Please read post #24. Thank you. Plus this....
Most professing Christians do NOT understand Bible doctrines and its' interpretations!!

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I read post 24. We know this because it was that post I quoted when I then posted in reply to you.

You do not glorify God when you misrepresent his teachings.
 

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I also suggest that you make the glory proclamation when you actually know what the Gospel of Jesus is. It's a common sense statement. You cannot have faith in any concept or person that you don't first accept.
Like a person who can't "accept" the things of God because he is "spiritually dead?"

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Like a person who can't "accept" the things of God because he is "spiritually dead?"
That's it. Now you are,by God's grace,seeing where you are in this.
Maybe take some time and meditate on your path so that the Spirit of God may reach you even more .
 

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Like a person who can't "accept" the things of God because he is "spiritually dead?"

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If I decided today that I wanted to give you one million dollars, and you didn't accept it, I couldn't give it to you. If you accepted it, I would transfer it to your bank or send you a cashiers check. You need to accept something before receiving it. We don't take possesion of things that we don't accept.
 

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I read post 24. We know this because it was that post I quoted when I then posted in reply to you.

You do not glorify God when you misrepresent his teachings.
How so? So far, both you and @Adrift have been giving your opinions without any backups of Scripture!! Go figure.

Where are your comments that I have misrepresented God's teachings? Give me some scriptures that I may understand.

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How so? So far, both you and @Adrift have been giving your opinions without any backups of Scripture!! Go figure.

Where are your comments that I have misrepresented God's teachings? Give me some scriptures that I may understand.

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If you were so superior in your scriptural knowledge, you wouldn't need us to quote scripture for every common sense sentence that we speak. However you want to twist it, the fact is that some people do not ACCEPT the teachings of Jesus. They are known as non-believers. How complicated is that?
 

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Romans 8

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 

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If you were so superior in your scriptural knowledge, you wouldn't need us to quote scripture for every common sense sentence that we speak.
I did not say I was superior in scriptural knowledge, but many professing Christians reads and understands Scripture differently, thereby come with
different answers.
However you want to twist it,
Of all the scriptures I presented in this thread, which of them do you think I have twisted??
the fact is that some people do not ACCEPT the teachings of Jesus. They are known as non-believers. How complicated is that?
Not a all. You can tell them by their fruits.

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That's it. Now you are,by God's grace,seeing where you are in this.
YAY!! You finally read my first sentence in post #23. That's alright you.ve been forgiven.
Maybe take some time and meditate on your path so that the Spirit of God may reach you even more .
Don't worry about me but yourself. I know very well how I stand with the LORD! Noticed that I wrote the word Lord, with all capital letters??

Some I've noticed when relating to God write "he" instead of "He" with a capital "H" that to me is very disrespectful to a Father that gave him eternal life!

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True.
Those Reborn in Christ have no sin.
I agree. The born again Christian cannot sin.
Though there are those who identify as Christian who insist they are sinners still.
It's sad the scriptures do not reach them.
Not who insist they are sinners still, but rather still sins.
If I decided today that I wanted to give you one million dollars, and you didn't accept it, I couldn't give it to you. If you accepted it, I would transfer it to your bank or send you a cashiers check.
What a terrible example!! I mean who wouldn't accept a million dollars?? Spiritually, who wouldn't want to accept salvation?? But mankind can't, because man is spiritually dead.
You need to accept something before receiving it. We don't take possesion of things that we don't accept.
The cross was NEVER intended to be offered. Jesus went to sacrifice His life to save only His people from their sins!!

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I agree. The born again Christian cannot sin.

Not who insist they are sinners still, but rather still sins.

What a terrible example!! I mean who wouldn't accept a million dollars?? Spiritually, who wouldn't want to accept salvation?? But mankind can't, because man is spiritually dead.

The cross was NEVER intended to be offered. Jesus went to sacrifice His life to save only His people from their sins!!

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Who do you believe are "his people"?
 

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Who do you believe are "his people"?
You're a professing Christian and you don't know which group of people you belong with?? Amazing.

Jesus said, "No one can come to me except the Father draw him." These are they whom the Father elected and predestined to salvation, in eternity past and before the foundation of the world, then gave to Jesus to redeem their sins!!

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You're a professing Christian and you don't know which group of people you belong with?? Amazing.

Jesus said, "No one can come to me except the Father draw him." These are they whom the Father elected and predestined to salvation, in eternity past and before the foundation of the world, then gave to Jesus to redeem their sins!!

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You can't give a straight answer. You open with sarcasm.

That shows how much you do not know.