The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

[Sel@h]

No believers " make it through the trib"

Heyyyy….Wait a second; you got a scripture for that claim?

 

[CrowCross]

Yep.
No horses
No sword
No conquering king
No mass tribulation with an AC demanding a mark in their heads.
No warrior saints.

Exactly opposite the postribbers model.

Exactly.

 

[CrowCross]

At least Pretribbers, such as you, have some things in common with most Amil posttribbers. They too agree the Acts 1 return is meaning the 1 Thessalonians 4 rapture. They too agree the Acts 1 return has zero to do with Zechariah 14:4. While OTOH, most Premil posttribbers, if not all, agree with the texts instead. That in like manner includes Him returning to the very spot He exited from. IOW, it is not a coincidence that Acts 1, in light of Luke 24, has Him leaving the earth from the mount of Olives, and that Zechariah 14:4 has Him returning to the earth on the mount of Olives.

Jesus returning to the same spot...doesn't make your argument.

Acts says the same way Jesus left.....not the same spot.

 

[sondring7]

It depends on how we define "believers." I believe people can believe and become "Christians" without actually becoming Born Again. Certainly, "Christians" who do not become Born Again can lose their faith. It is, in other words, sort of a semantics issue and should not detract from Postrib Eschatology.

A believer today :-
1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Col 2:13 < The Gospel taught to Paul by Christ Gal 1:11-12.
Believe you are saved, are HS sealed, are forgiven by trusting in the death burial resurrection of Christ for the forgiveness of your sins