The Church decided the canon. How do you know you have the correct canon?

[David in NJ]

I don't seek works works are necessary but not sufficient. This has been shown to you from Scripture not me but your heart is far from God while your mouth prattles on with idle chatter.

"Thus, you can see his(Abraham) faith and his works were active together; his faith was brought to completion by works". James 2: 22

If faith was sufficient it wouldn't need completion by works.

lol x100

i never "prattled" against the "works" of God in Christ

However, to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly,
his faith is credited as righteousness.

How ironic is it that the one who seeks "works" attempts to judge the one who seeks righteousness thru Faith

 

[David in NJ]

But they do not declare the gospel! They declare there is a God and He is powerful. But violence in nature does not reveal man is a sinner. It just reveals violence.

Sorry but there is nothing in Creation that declares the gospel other than believers! That is how Jesus set it up!

Well you choose to reject the Holy Scriptures that you may SEE that which God has declared in His Creation which speaks of CHRIST

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.
For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.

 

[nedsk]

lol x100

i never "prattled" against the "works" of God in Christ

If faith was sufficient it wouldnt need completion by works.

"For just as the body is dead without spirit, so faith without works is also dead." James 2: 26

 

[David in NJ]

If faith was sufficient it wouldnt need completion by works.

"For just as the body is dead without spirit, so faith without works is also dead." James 2: 26

Faith in CHRIST is all sufficient for Salvation

Believe JESUS when HE said: "IT IS FINISHED" = "the work that the FATHER sent ME to do is "FINISHED"

How did the thief on the cross enter into Eternal Life???
a.) by Faith
b.) by works

 

[nedsk]

Faith in CHRIST is all sufficient for Salvation

Believe JESUS when HE said: "IT IS FINISHED" = "the work that the FATHER sent ME to do is "FINISHED"

How did the thief on the cross enter into Eternal Life???
a.) by Faith
b.) by works

Both a and b. Luke 23:39-43. His faith was brought I completion by his work of rebuking the other thief. Your heart is far from him.

 

[David in NJ]

Both a and b. Luke 23:39-43. His faith was brought I completion by his work of rebuking the other thief. Your heart is far from him.

Completely false and your heart is far from the Truth on this matter

For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.

However, to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly,
his faith is credited as righteousness.

How ironic is it that the one who seeks "works" attempts to judge the one who seeks righteousness thru Faith

 

[nedsk]

Completely false and your heart is far from the Truth on this matter

For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.

However, to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly,
his faith is credited as righteousness.

How ironic is it that the one who seeks "works" attempts to judge the one who seeks righteousness thru Faith

Show from Scripture how I'm wrong

 

[David in NJ]

Show from Scripture how I'm wrong

i did THREE times

For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.

However, to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly,
his faith is credited as righteousness.

But because of His great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved! 6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.

8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I don't think so. Scripture is quite clear on this matter.

James 2: 26

"For just as the body is dead without a spirit, so faith without works is dead."

I'm not sure where there could be a question that faith is not sufficient for salvation.

I mean, works is real work when it is not natural, when it is down only by willpower. And faith is not real faith that Jesus will save us IN our sin, and not FROM our sin.

 

[amigo de christo]

Faith in CHRIST is all sufficient for Salvation

Believe JESUS when HE said: "IT IS FINISHED" = "the work that the FATHER sent ME to do is "FINISHED"

How did the thief on the cross enter into Eternal Life???
a.) by Faith
b.) by works

Try asking him a question my friend . Kinda funny how many are co helpers to Interfaith these days .
We know from whence that sprang too .
How did the thief on the cross enter into Eternal life . WELL IT DARN SURE wasnt through the lie of interfaith .
HIMS BELIEVED DAVID . HIMS BELEIVED . by FAITH it is my friend . BY faith . Faith in JESUS THE CHRIST
cause faith in any other , YEAH not saving squat .

 

[nedsk]

i did THREE times

For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.

However, to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly,
his faith is credited as righteousness.

But because of His great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved! 6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.

8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life.

And I've shown you that the demons believe but they aren't saved.

Faith.is brought to completion by works. You need to understand what sufficient means but you just refuse. If faith was sufficient it wouldnt need completion through works. Unless you're claiming Scripture is wrong or deceptive.

 

[amigo de christo]

Completely false and your heart is far from the Truth on this matter

For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.

However, to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly,
his faith is credited as righteousness.

How ironic is it that the one who seeks "works" attempts to judge the one who seeks righteousness thru Faith

most people nowadays beleives in this false lovey do feed the poor and it dont matter what religoin ya in
all is okay with GOD , what a whopper of a lie that one is .
That is exactly how one is saved , BELIEVING IN CHRIST JESUS
just as paul wrote and others like peter and them also taught . SAME THING .
As we both know , however , their is a huge difference between LIP ONLY
verses HEART Faith . Even james knew what saved a man WAS FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
it is just he knew , as do us sheep too , LIP ONLY hearts loving on sin , far from him , BE DEAD faith . not true faith at all .
But the key is
WHAT saved that man on the cross . YES DAVID IT WAS THE ONLY ONE THING REQUIRED
FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
Had the man been rescued and taken off the cross , THEN we had seen the results of that faith
as HE would have good works as proof the SPIRIT is within .
BUT , the total proof of how one is saved , BELEIF IN JESUS THE CHRIST . not our works
HIS WORK . HE did all that was required . HE did . and THAT IS WHOM the lambs shall continue
TO POINT TOO and to remind all of the absolute dire necessity to BELIEVE ON HIM .
Sirs what shall this world do to be saved , BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST cause interfaith is of anti christ
and it wont be saving squat . a lie never could save , TRUTH saves . a lie graves .

 

[nedsk]

Try asking him a question my friend . Kinda funny how many are co helpers to Interfaith these days .
We know from whence that sprang too .
How did the thief on the cross enter into Eternal life . WELL IT DARN SURE wasnt through the lie of interfaith .
HIMS BELIEVED DAVID . HIMS BELEIVED . by FAITH it is my friend . BY faith . Faith in JESUS THE CHRIST
cause faith in any other , YEAH not saving squat .

First you should have the courage to address me directly.
Second I've answered how the the thief was saved
Third salvation is for God to impart on others as he wishes. Its not for me to judge who he imparts his salvation to. God can save whoever he wants whenever he wants by whatever means he wants.
Lastly NOTHING makes what James says incorrect. If faith is sufficient then it does not need completion through works. Unless you're suggesting names is lying.

 

[amigo de christo]

And I've shown you that the demons believe but they aren't saved.

Faith.is brought to completion by works. You need to understand what sufficient means but you just refuse. If faith was sufficient it wouldnt need completion through works. Unless you're claiming Scripture is wrong or deceptive.

Big difference between true faith and LIPS only but heart from far him kinda dead faith .
The latter is see in many today .
Intefaith is of anti christ . Bet most dont know that .
I see another jesus all together being preached by this sin loving and sin accepting generation
IT holds rainbows , kisses on korans and budda stautes , tells all
We coming to GOD in our own way , every religoin etc DUNG PILE TRASH LIE of anti christ .
ANY true sheep WOULD have confessed by MOUTH CHRIST JESUS beleiving from the heart GOD rose him from the dead
AND the PROOF of their sealed testimony WOULD HAVE THEN BEEN their walk . DID they love that sin
or hate that sin . Did they follow another love god
that sold them the love of the world but done so cliaming it was the love of GOD .
Did thier love , love a fable
that claims all YA NEED IS LOVE , but NO MENTION AT ALL about HAVING TO BELEIVE ON JESUS
and rather just a beetles song , that darn sure wont correct sin and error , NOR NOW EVEN UNBELEIF.
Are we following JESUS
or is it another jesus . That be THE PROBLEM in the HOUSE and HOUSES of all most NOW all of even christendom .
DARN HIGH NUMBER now follow another jesus
believing the plan of GOD is to merge us all to find common ground for world peace . ITS ALL OF ANTI CHRIST of course
but many seem to love that real BROAD PATH its love has created . BUT broad IS THE WAY that leadeth to DESTRUCTION .

 

[nedsk]

Big difference between true faith and LIPS only but heart from far him kinda dead faith .
The latter is see in many today .
Intefaith is of anti christ . Bet most dont know that .
I see another jesus all together being preached by this sin loving and sin accepting generation
IT holds rainbows , kisses on korans and budda stautes , tells all
We coming to GOD in our own way , every religoin etc DUNG PILE TRASH LIE of anti christ .
ANY true sheep WOULD have confessed by MOUTH CHRIST JESUS beleiving from the heart GOD rose him from the dead
AND the PROOF of their sealed testimony WOULD HAVE THEN BEEN their walk . DID they love that sin
or hate that sin . Did they follow another love god
that sold them the love of the world but done so cliaming it was the love of GOD .
Did thier love , love a fable
that claims all YA NEED IS LOVE , but NO MENTION AT ALL about HAVING TO BELEIVE ON JESUS
and rather just a beetles song , that darn sure wont correct sin and error , NOR NOW EVEN UNBELEIF.
Are we following JESUS
or is it another jesus . That be THE PROBLEM in the HOUSE and HOUSES of all most NOW all of even christendom .
DARN HIGH NUMBER now follow another jesus
believing the plan of GOD is to merge us all to find common ground for world peace . ITS ALL OF ANTI CHRIST of course
but many seem to love that real BROAD PATH its love has created . BUT broad IS THE WAY that leadeth to DESTRUCTION .

Good for you answering directly

If faith is sufficient it wouldn't need completion through works.

 

[amigo de christo]

First you should have the courage to address me directly.
Second I've answered how the the thief was saved
Third salvation is for God to impart on others as he wishes. Its not for me to judge who he imparts his salvation to. God can save whoever he wants whenever he wants by whatever means he wants.
Lastly NOTHING makes what James says incorrect. If faith is sufficient then it does not need completion through works. Unless you're suggesting names is lying.

First off i BELIEVE everything james wrote too .
Heck even paul confirms this .
IF any man PROVIDES NOT for His own , A WORKS , He has DENIED THE FAITH . worse than an infidel .
Lip only wont mean squat as many hearts were far far FROM HIM .
THEY , just like i once did , LOVED OUR SIN , could
lip His name , could even quote the gospel , BUT MAN i was a child of satan .
GOOD THING many years later GOD would send TRUE GRACE
to draw me to THE TRUE JESUS with a heart HE changed .
Many do the works of their father
Sheep do the work of our Father . AND YOU DARN right there is a reason that first father was NOT captilized . HIMS THE DEVIL .
many are in love with intefaith inclusivity interrrligious anti christ talks . I seen what them harlots
told them false religoins . THEY DO THE WORK of anti christ . I WILL Expose every last one of them .
Lets pray you are not part of that work my friend . SO let me advise you
FLEE the RCC , flee the nar realm and many within that protestant realm . THAT SHIPS GETTING SUNK onthe day of the LORD .
ITS time to Bible up and learn for ourselves .

 

[amigo de christo]

Good for you answering directly

If faith is sufficient it wouldn't need completion through works.

Faith is sufficient . its just dead faith AINT FAITH .
We do realize WHO it is that actually gives us the desire to please GOD
and to be doing good . ITS THE SPIRIT .
no , faith IS sufficient ,
but if one has not works , ITS DEAD . now works can complete faith . YES
But faith in CHRIST is all one needs .
And yes the church should be REMINDING the church TO DO GOOD WORKS
and to flee any and all appearance of evil , to be no partaker of , supporter of ANY SIN .
That means ANY SIN , YES even the so called POLITICALLY CORRECT ones that
so many are totally terrified to even make mention of in their own churches .
People are terrified of the dark rainbow and worse many now even love and embrace it .
Just getting worse all the time .

 

[amigo de christo]

Good for you answering directly

If faith is sufficient it wouldn't need completion through works.

I have a question .
How does leaven grow and increase .
WHY is it churches can start out seemingly good and okay
but in time get leavened up .
DO ya give up . THEY STOP CORRECTING . they stop reading doctrine in the mindset that IT MIGHT OFFEND someone .
Leaven left uncorrected , OH ITS GONNA TAKE OVER In time . IT ALWAYS DOES .
so much for the rainbow interfaith fairty tale judge not corect not . MAN it destroyed many places
and now many unify under a lie they believe is love and of GOD
ITS NOT at all GOD or HIS LOVE . big problems in the house but many see it as loving and loving . blinded .

 

[nedsk]

First off i BELIEVE everything james wrote too .
Heck even paul confirms this .
IF any man PROVIDES NOT for His own , A WORKS , He has DENIED THE FAITH . worse than an infidel .
Lip only wont mean squat as many hearts were far far FROM HIM .
THEY , just like i once did , LOVED OUR SIN , could
lip His name , could even quote the gospel , BUT MAN i was a child of satan .
GOOD THING many years later GOD would send TRUE GRACE
to draw me to THE TRUE JESUS with a heart HE changed .
Many do the works of their father
Sheep do the work of our Father . AND YOU DARN right there is a reason that first father was NOT captilized . HIMS THE DEVIL .
many are in love with intefaith inclusivity interrrligious anti christ talks . I seen what them harlots
told them false religoins . THEY DO THE WORK of anti christ . I WILL Expose every last one of them .
Lets pray you are not part of that work my friend . SO let me advise you
FLEE the RCC , flee the nar realm and many within that protestant realm . THAT SHIPS GETTING SUNK onthe day of the LORD .
ITS time to Bible up and learn for ourselves .

First off i BELIEVE everything james wrote too .
Heck even paul confirms this .
IF any man PROVIDES NOT for His own , A WORKS , He has DENIED THE FAITH . worse than an infidel .
Lip only wont mean squat as many hearts were far far FROM HIM .
THEY , just like i once did , LOVED OUR SIN , could
lip His name , could even quote the gospel , BUT MAN i was a child of satan .
GOOD THING many years later GOD would send TRUE GRACE
to draw me to THE TRUE JESUS with a heart HE changed .
Many do the works of their father
Sheep do the work of our Father . AND YOU DARN right there is a reason that first father was NOT captilized . HIMS THE DEVIL .
many are in love with intefaith inclusivity interrrligious anti christ talks . I seen what them harlots
told them false religoins . THEY DO THE WORK of anti christ . I WILL Expose every last one of them .
Lets pray you are not part of that work my friend . SO let me advise you
FLEE the RCC , flee the nar realm and many within that protestant realm . THAT SHIPS GETTING SUNK onthe day of the LORD .
ITS time to Bible up and learn for ourselves .

James 2:17 In the same way, faith by itself is dead if it does not have works.

James 2: 22 Thus you can see that his (Abraham) faith and his works were active together; his faith was brought to completion by works.

James 2: 24 You can see then that a man is justified by eorks.snd not by faith alone.

James 2:26 For just as the body is dead without spirit so faith without works is dead.

Every there is scripture not the rcc. You speak with no greater authority than Scripture. You are arguing with Scripture not me.

 

[nedsk]

Faith is sufficient . its just dead faith AINT FAITH .
We do realize WHO it is that actually gives us the desire to please GOD
and to be doing good . ITS THE SPIRIT .
no , faith IS sufficient ,
but if one has not works , ITS DEAD . now works can complete faith . YES
But faith in CHRIST is all one needs .
And yes the church should be REMINDING the church TO DO GOOD WORKS
and to flee any and all appearance of evil , to be no partaker of , supporter of ANY SIN .
That means ANY SIN , YES even the so called POLITICALLY CORRECT ones that
so many are totally terrified to even make mention of in their own churches .
People are terrified of the dark rainbow and worse many now even love and embrace it .
Just getting worse all the time .

You clearly have no idea what sufficient means. You can post volumes of nonsense it doesn't make you right. If faith was sufficient there is no reason for James to write faith is brought to completion through works.