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Discussion in 'Christian Debate Forum' started by Phoneman777, Jul 4, 2019.

  1. Philip James

    Philip James Well-Known Member

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    Hello phonemam,

    Dont hold back now, tell us how you really feel.

    You are looking at the failings of men rather than the triumph of Christ.

    Where you see a filthy whore, I see a chaste spouse, holy and pure, her wedding dress washed clean in the Blood of the Lamb....

    Perspective is important
     
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    Principles important...

    Catholics PICK their "holy father"...

    Why?

    Was God's PICK not sufficient?

    John 17
    [1] These words [B] spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, [/B] the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

    John 17
    [11] And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

    IS Jesus Calling "HIS FATHER" THEE Holy Father...not sufficient to KNOW, there is ONY ONE God, and ONE Holy Father?

    WAS GODS PICK of Abraham NOT sufficient of God appointing Abraham
    "father of many nations"?

    Gen 17
    [4] As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
    [5] Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

    Who MADE the POPE...thee "holy father"?
    MEN.

    Who were MEN taught (IN SCRIPTURE) to BELIEVE IN and BE FAITHFUL TO.....JESUS or MEN?

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
  3. Phoneman777

    Phoneman777 Well-Known Member

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    LOL
     
  4. Phoneman777

    Phoneman777 Well-Known Member

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    Bro, God is not a cuck.
     
  5. Phoneman777

    Phoneman777 Well-Known Member

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    Devil has thrown everything at me but the kitchen sink but I'm still sounding the warning brother LOL
     
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    I've got so many kitchen sinks I'm thinking of starting a plumbing business....but I hate plumbing.
     
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    Marymog Well-Known Member

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    Your proud of William Miller who twice predicted the coming of Christ and was WRONG both times?

    Hmmmm.....not sure what there is to be proud of about that!
     
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    Marymog Well-Known Member

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    1 Peter 5:5
    Hebrews 13:17
    1 Timothy 5:17
    Matthew 18:17
    Titus 1:9
    Acts 20:28

    Scripture say we are to submit ourselves to our elders, obey those who rule over us, be submissive to them since they watch out for our souls and the elders who rule over us are counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine (not Taken's doctrine, but the doctrine of The Church). If we refuse to listen to the elders of The Church we are to be treated as heathen and a tax collector. The elders must have a firm grasp of the word so that they may be able both to preach with sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict it. They were to keep watch over themselves and over all the flock, of which the Holy Spirit has made them overseers, to shepherd the church of God.

    Soooooo ONCE AGAIN Scripture proves you wrong.....Who is your teacher? You should fire them!
     
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    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    Spoken with your usual Scriptural ignorance.

    It’s not Christ OR the Church. He identifies His very SELF with His Church, which is His mouthpiece on earth:

    Luke 10:16
    Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME.”

    WHATEVER Christ’s Church teaches or ordains on earth is ordained in Heaven (Matt. 16:19, matt. 18:18, John 20:23).

    just because the Pope is called “Holy Father” – this doesn’t “replace” or usurp God’s position as our FATHER in Heaven. This is as dishonest and stupid as saying that just because we have mothers and fathers on earth – we are somehow “replacing” God.

    Complete nonsense . . .
     
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    Since William Miller died almost TWENTY YEARS BEFORE THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH BEGAN TO EXIST, my opinion of my church has nothing to do with Miller.
     
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    Philip James Well-Known Member

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    So you admit that your church is not the one founded by Christ through His apostles?
     
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    I'll admit that the Seventh-day Adventist Christian denomination was founded almost 2,000 years after what Christ founded upon the solid Rock of His Word by Christians who practiced to the best of their ability and understanding the teachings of His Word...which characterizes His True Church throughout the ages.

    Any institution which opposes the plain teachings of that Word traces its roots not back to Christ, but to the archenemy.
     
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    Who said you were replacing God?
    No one!

    You are Such a DUNCE.

    ... you make up some absurd comment, then call it nonsense...

    Do you really NOT COMPREHEND you are consistently making comments and then disagreeing with your own words?

    It's already been acknowledged your are a conversational narcissist....a great deal of people on this forum have disagreement with what you say....and we get it...you also disagree with what you say...

    Frankly it is rather boring to listen to you speak and then disagree with yourself.

    So try to stick to the facts...

    Is this verse in your Catholic Bible?
    IF so, what is your understanding of this verse?

    Matt 23
    [9] And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    Mary you have carried on blabbing you follow the doctrines and teachings OF MEN...

    I have made it CLEAR I do not Care what YOU DO. I am NOT interested in what YOU DO.

    EXCEPT THAT YOU MAKE UP LIES ABOUT ME.

    I have made it CLEAR I CHOSE to FOLLOW JESUS' DOCTRINE and Jesus' TEACHING.

    Why does that BOTHER YOU, what I HAVE CHOSEN?

    WHY MAKE UP A LIE and say I am following MY DOCTRINE?

    Do you think MAKING UP LIES ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE will get people to consider jumping on your bandwagon following men YOU have chosen to follow?

    Is that the Catholic WAY? Call other people liars and say scripture proves them wrong....is all it takes to get an other to become LIKE YOU...a lying Catholic?

    I have clearly said I follow Jesus' Doctrine...
    If you want to show in Scripture how Scripture IS AGAINST that Principle...have at it.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Good verse there...
     
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    Philip James Well-Known Member

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    I am writing you this not to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children.

    Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel
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    Clearly it not the use if the word 'father' that is the issue here, unless one thinks that Paul is teaching heresy to the Corinthians...

    So in what sense then are we to 'call no man ' father ' ?

    Peace!
     
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    LOL...BOL...

    QUOTING YOUR WORDS..

    Thanks for sharing your dishonest and stupid words and then disagreeing with your own words as being complete nonsense. LOL

    Conversational narcissist....make your own claims then disagree with yourself
    ....

    FYI,,,will have to agree, most of what YOU say is Complete Nonsense. LOL

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Waiting for the self-appointed Catholic teacher BOL to say his understanding.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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