1. Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

Discussion in 'Christian Debate Forum' started by Phoneman777, Jul 4, 2019.

  1. Phoneman777

    Phoneman777 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,656
    Likes Received:
    1,483
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    So, defining terms is now "drinking koolaid"?

    If you would take a moment to open a Greek Lexicon and look up "Anti Christos", you'll find that "Anti" means "for, in place of, instead of, in behalf of" and of course "Christos" means Christ. "Antichrist" means "take the place of Christ". That is what your papacy has claimed of itself since the beginning, and still does today.

    Do you really think a sinful man can take the place of Christ? Do you really think Christ approves of such nonsense? I think the only ones drinking Koolaid are the priests during the so called Eucharist.
     
  2. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,957
    Likes Received:
    2,076
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    Using the MIND to come to a conclusion of what Gods Word means.

    Where is THAT ^ taught?

    Remember what Scripture SAYS...

    Rom 8
    [7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

    So why do men USE their carnal mind to try and FIGURE OUT What Gods Word Means?

    Gods Word is Spirit.
    Gods Understanding of His Word is Spirit.
    Reliance on a mans carnal mind, to figure out what Gods Understanding of His Word...is NOT Taught.

    What IS Taught IS God gives men His Understanding of His Word.

    Still do not know what you mean by OSNAS.

    OSAS, is simply an acronym...focusing ON the "ONCE".

    Does a person BECOME SAVED, because they are baptized with Water, because a baby has water sprinkled on their head, or because a person goes forward to an Alter Call?

    Those ^ are Traditions, that MEN can observe other men DOING.

    God is a KEEN Observer of the Thoughts IN A MANS "HEART".

    Not every man who has been water Baptized, or baby sprinkled with Water, or participated IN an Alter Call....participated in such things...BECAUSE of His TRUE Belief in his Heart.

    The Observers, may SEE what APPEARS as a Confession of True Belief...

    However, one man CAN NOT SEE, the true Thoughts in a mans Heart....OR IF the man is participating based on the Thoughts in HIS MIND.... BUT GOD CAN SEE.

    Joining membership of Any "church" of Any denomination, requires the man TO have been Baptized IN THE Spirit. How does a man PROVE that? What is acceptable to ANY church, is PROOF of Water Baptism.

    But does THAT mean, it is TRUE?
    No, it is an acceptable "indication".

    Yet HOW many men have "joined" a Church...
    For CLOUT? Acceptance in the Community? Business Contacts? To appease a spouse or parent? To gain political status? And on and on?

    If they DID NOT SUBMIT "from the thoughts in their HEART"...Have they FOOLED GOD? No. Were they SAVED? No.

    Sure, I agree. And would say the CONDITION is that a mans Confession of Belief, COME FROM HIS HEARTS TRUE THOUGHTS...
    NOT HIS MIND.

    Sure.

    It is BOTH. All scripture is True.

    What is DIFFERENT, are "INDIVIDUAL" people....what individuals CHOOSE, and DO.

    There IS A CONDITION...that men MUST Believe, and Confess their TRUE Heartfelt Belief.

    Once THAT ^ is accomplished, there ARE NO MORE CONDITIONS 'FOR THAT MAN TO accomplish".

    It called Dividing the WORD of TRUTH.

    Everything written IN Scripture "IS TRUE"...
    But NOT Everything IN Scripture "APPLIES" to every single man.

    If a man DOES NOT BELIEVE.....then Scriptures about an Unbeliever APPLIES to that man.

    If a man DOES BELIEVE....then Scripture about a Believer APPLIES to that man.

    If a man calls out to the Lord, and "Mindfully" confesses Belief, but he does NOT Believe in his Heart...that man has LIED to God.

    While Observers MAY Believe the man BECAME SAVED....did he?

    Do we find men, preachers living 5, 10, 20, years APPEARING as Believers.....FOOLING people......THEN announcing...THEY NEVER really Believed? Sure. Were they SAVED? No. They are Frauds.

    Again,
    the Carnal Mind is Against God.
    God searches the thoughts of the heart.
    God is NOT Fooled.

    And once a man Heartfully Confesses true Belief...the Lord SAVES the man...ONCE...
    Not over and over and over.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
    GodsGrace likes this.
  3. bbyrd009

    bbyrd009 Groper

    Messages:
    25,800
    Likes Received:
    8,439
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States Minor Outlying Islands
    choose the third option imo, every time!
     
  4. Marymog

    Marymog Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,287
    Likes Received:
    543
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    Ummmm...I think I already told you that I know they are not your interest....You are only interested in what YOU write....Remember me saying that? ;)

    Yup....Jesus is your teacher, YOU know what he thinks and YOU are the interpreter of His words.....No one else can do that better than you....ESPECIALLY the men who walked and talked with the Apostles.....YOU know better then they do....:rolleyes:

    Mary
     
  5. Marymog

    Marymog Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,287
    Likes Received:
    543
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    On several occasions you have suggested you never said the words that I allege you said.

    But what you refuse to acknowledge is you are saying what I interpret you are saying....just not in the EXACT words I am interpreting.

    If you were to tell me my eyes are like the color of the sky and I responded to you, "My eyes aren't blue" you would say to me "I never said your eyes were blue".

    That is what you do....you say things but deny saying them because you didn't use the word "blue"..... even though that's what you meant.

    Keepin it real....Mary
     
  6. Marymog

    Marymog Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,287
    Likes Received:
    543
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    To Be Deep In History, Is To Cease To Be A Protestant.
     
    Philip James likes this.
  7. Marymog

    Marymog Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,287
    Likes Received:
    543
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    Hi GG,

    I couldn't have said it any better than you. You did a great job.

    The only thing I would ask @brakelite to do is read the writings of Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp (108 and 155AD) to learn what The Church was called at that time and how there was only ONE church and it was....as you said.....universal.

    I know he won't read them OR if he has he is in denial of his own Christian history. :(
     
    GodsGrace likes this.
  8. GodsGrace

    GodsGrace Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,146
    Likes Received:
    5,011
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Italy
    It's OK Taken....I used to think like this.
    I'm not trying to convince you, as I said.
     
    Taken likes this.
  9. Marymog

    Marymog Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,287
    Likes Received:
    543
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    Thank you dodgeball.....Once again....NO ANSWER.

    I get it .......your embarrassed about you denomination.....No big deal.
     
  10. GodsGrace

    GodsGrace Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,146
    Likes Received:
    5,011
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Italy
    I agree.
    Thanks for writing so much....
    [​IMG]
     
    Taken likes this.
  11. GodsGrace

    GodsGrace Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,146
    Likes Received:
    5,011
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Italy
    Most won't read the Early Church Fathers. Unfortunately.

    Why read those who came right after the Apostles and learned from them?
    Why read those that PUT TOGETHER THE NEW TESTAMENT?

    I hear the Holy Spirit did this.
    All by his lonesome?
    God works through MEN...
    These men should be read.
     
    Philip James and Marymog like this.
  12. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,957
    Likes Received:
    2,076
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    Keep it real....there is a QUOTE Feature. No need for YOU to Speak for others, what they do not speak for themselves.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
  13. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,957
    Likes Received:
    2,076
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    Mary, I speak what "I" believe and "MY" source.

    I don't need to tell you every 15 minutes if you perfer someone Other than Christ the Lord to teach you...that's your business, whether or not I think it is DUMB!

    I have a Direct Spiritual 24-7 relationship with MY Lord...perhaps you don't, and require MEN to TEACH YOU.

    Your SNARKY comments are but false accusations of what I think, and I have never made the claims YOU feel at liberty to MAKE FOR ME... Why don't you post your words ABOUT YOU, and not worry about WHAT I believe?

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
  14. Marymog

    Marymog Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,287
    Likes Received:
    543
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    LOL.....I trust the men who walked and talked with the Apostles instead of you....You rely on YOU! Your source is YOU! I wonder who is more right in these matters? :rolleyes: That's a tough one......

    I will stick with my men....you can stick with YOU.

    Good luck...Mary
     
  15. Marymog

    Marymog Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,287
    Likes Received:
    543
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    Thank you taken.....I have heard you loud and clear. Your not going to tickle this old gals ears....;)
     
  16. brakelite

    brakelite Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,295
    Likes Received:
    3,518
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Australia
    [QUOTE
    But you are only focusing on one narrow Avenue of history, and preten ding there was nothing worth speaking of outside that narrow road... You have tunnel vision... Tell me. When Jerusalem was destroyed and Israel pretty well wasted on ad70, where did the Christians of Jerusalem go? The apostles such as Philip and the churches he founded... Were they subservient to Rome? And in the ensuing centuries, the churches that became established without any input from"Catholic" missionaries such at in Britain, Africa, and the Far East... Were they all heretics because they had never met the Pope and didn't consider him their King?
     
  17. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,957
    Likes Received:
    2,076
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    What do you want a medal? LOL

    Still trying to convince me you FAILED comprehension? LOL

    LOL...obviously brainwashing has succeeded on you...
    I said my SOURCE is Jesus...and YOU..you make up lies.

    LOL. LOL. Gee...not tough at all...Jesus IS THE WAY....(unless you are catholic...then apparently men you pick and choose which men are YOUR way).

    Yes, I'm sure you will...since that is the catholic way...follow MEN! LOL

    Nah Mary, you can stop making up LIES, it gives you and YOUR catholic church a bad reputation...

    I follow and will continue to Follow Jesus, Just as "I" said. And you can continue to follow after men, just as "YOU" said.

    Mark 8
    [34] And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2019
  18. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,957
    Likes Received:
    2,076
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    LOL...well aware you are set in your way to follow men old gal....

    I'll stick with FOLLOWING JESUS.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
  19. Phoneman777

    Phoneman777 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,656
    Likes Received:
    1,483
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    I'm so proud of my denomination, you cannot believe it.

    Now, what you fail to understand, papist sympathizer, is that you've been so conditioned to looking to your popes and catholic clergy for instructions on how to wipe your butt that you somehow think that is how the rest of the religious world is supposed to operate.

    IT IS NOT.

    The Seventh-day Adventist church is not tasked with deciding the punishment of criminals - it is given the mission of spreading the 3 Angels Messages of Revelation 14:6-12:

    1) "Fear God and give glory to Him for the hour of His Judgment IS COME (began in 1844). And worship Him Who made" everything, and stop worshiping a fool calling himself "holy father".

    2) "Babylon (the confederacy of satanic world religions which are overseen by the satanic papacy) is fallen, is fallen, because she made all nations drunk (deceived) with the wine (false doctrine) of the wrath of her fornication (claims to be loyal to Jesus, but is actually a commandment breaking, dirty, filthy, unfaithful, smelly, Babylonian Whore sitting in Rome covered in the stench of both fresh and rancid sex residuals of her satanic lovers)."

    3) "If any man worship the Beast, etc. etc. etc." is the final message for all those who love God to come out of this satanic confederacy as soon as the Holy Spirit reveals them to be in it, and come into God's final remnant church "which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony...and faith of Jesus Christ".

    Come out, MM, before you beg to come out later, but will sadly have been "weighed in the balances, and found wanting."
     
  20. brakelite

    brakelite Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,295
    Likes Received:
    3,518
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Australia
    Don't you think you could have made that a little clearer? I mean, the time for beating around the bush is over don't you think? Time is short, time to give a straight message and never mind the weak politically correct mamby pamby compromising fear-ridden excuses for gospel truth. Stop with the euphemisms already. Get it together bro, stand up and be counted!!!
     
Loading...