The coming Armageddon before Armageddon?

[Soverign Grace]

Lol, no I was just curious- the question wasnt addressed to you .Heavonward only joined the forum and posted to your thread, it's just something about the content, also they are very similar to you as well. ( in fact some of the posts sound like you !! )

Rita you'd better be careful or Willie is going to accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist.

I know you don't want to be labeled that! Why Willie will tell you to go get your tin foil hat and he'll start stalking you and calling you names whenever you post. All like a good Christian man should do. Christ called such people "hypocrites." He told them to clean the "inside" of the cup.

To satisfy your curiosity - if I wanted my husband to put Willie in his place I'd have him do it through my account. I am not married to BobbyJoe or ByJesus either. But I'm glad the person sounds like me - that's a compliment

 

[Butterfly]

I think it would take more than one post SG !
Interesting- you didn't deny what I posted about. You know I could draw all kinds of conclusions from that ! Lol

 

[Soverign Grace]

1 Timothy 5:20
As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.

 

[Soverign Grace]

I think it would take more than one post SG !
Interesting- you didn't deny what I posted about. You know I could draw all kinds of conclusions from that ! Lol

LOL. Conclude away - I hope it gives you something to do on a Sunday morning

 

[Willie T]

Rita you'd better be careful or Willie is going to accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist.

I know you don't want to be labeled that! Why Willie will tell you to go get your tin foil hat and he'll start stalking you and calling you names whenever you post. All like a good Christian man should do. Christ called such people "hypocrites." He told them to clean the "inside" of the cup.

To satisfy your curiosity - if I wanted my husband to put Willie in his place I'd have him do it through my account. I am not married to BobbyJoe or ByJesus either. But I'm glad the person sounds like me - that's a compliment

Rita asked a question. You, however, read something somewhere, and hurry here to post it as a supposed FACT.

 

[Butterfly]

Rita you'd better be careful or Willie is going to accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist.

I know you don't want to be labeled that! Why Willie will tell you to go get your tin foil hat and he'll start stalking you and calling you names whenever you post. All like a good Christian man should do. Christ called such people "hypocrites." He told them to clean the "inside" of the cup.

To satisfy your curiosity - if I wanted my husband to put Willie in his place I'd have him do it through my account. I am not married to BobbyJoe or ByJesus either. But I'm glad the person sounds like me - that's a compliment

You added a bit........it was more about the style of writing. Why would I think you were married to bobbyjo or by jesus?
It's not the conspiracy bits that made me wonder, anyhow I am sure heavenward will respond, unless they disappear like ' archangel ' , interestingly they only accused people who you felt threatened by, it was too much of a coincidence.
My issue is about deception, one person claims to be so ' Christian ' and mysteriously is able to say what they really think through another forum account. It happens sometimes.
I will keep an open mind on this- you have your theories, I have mine x
Rita

 

[Soverign Grace]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

And if you think "peace" and "I love you" hand signals are signs of evil character...you do have a problem; and if you are shouting it in public, you are inciting potential violence, hysteria, and doing harm, which is from fear (fear mongering) and not from God.

This came in my inbox. The Hegelian Dialectic requires abstract thinking; deeper thinking. Sometimes people don't do the work to think - they rely on pastors to tell them what to believe. And then they fight against those who do the work to think things all the way out - to research and really look deep into the issues. We're told to be like the Bereans.

What Donald Trump Has Done To America’s Evangelical Leaders
WRITTEN BY: CHUCK BALDWIN

PUBLISHED ON: OCTOBER 25, 2019

• 
  Since Donald Trump began appointing globalist swamp creatures to his cabinet and administration even before he was inaugurated, I have documented the innumerable examples of his unconstitutional, immoral, warmongering, duplicitous and blasphemous behavior. For the most part, however, all it has accomplished is to cause evangelical Christians to hate ME. So be it. I will continue to be faithful to the truth, regardless.
  
  Many of us are cognizant of the fact that there are power brokers behind both major parties who play Democrats and Republicans against the American people so as to make them think that they are voting for change, when all they are really doing is helping the power brokers achieve their agendas by using different faces. It’s the Hegelian Dialectic played to perfection. And, yes, Donald Trump is as much a stooge of these power brokers as Nancy Pelosi or any other major player inside the Beltway.
  
  The lurch to the extreme left by the Democrat Party only benefits . . . Donald Trump. Yes, some of the minor players involved are truly as radical as they appear. But the real power within the Democrat Party is as controlled as are the movers and shakers within the Republican Party. Mark it down: If the Donkeys nominate a radical socialist for president, it will absolutely guarantee a Republican victory next year. Joe Biden is the only candidate who has a chance of capturing the White House for the Democrats in 2020—and Democrats KNOW it. So, if Warren or Sanders is the nominee, it’s because the power brokers are manipulating another Trump victory—providing Trump is the GOP nominee, of course.
  
  Conservatives can scream “unfair,” “witch hunt” and “coup” all they want. EVERYBODY in Washington, D.C.—Democrat AND Republican—knows that Trump is as dirty as they get (not that a whole bunch of the rest of them aren’t just as dirty). The man has been a miserable miscreant all of his adult life, and he didn’t stop being a miserable miscreant when he became president. He has bought, bullied, bribed and bludgeoned his way to a total lack of accountability. In short, he has never been held accountable for anything he has ever done—EVER.
  
  Judge Andrew Napolitano is absolutely right: The U.S. House of Representatives alone has the constitutional authority to impeach. And the U.S. Senate alone has the constitutional authority to convict and remove from office. That means if the House impeaches Trump (and it seems inevitable that it will), it would take at least 20 Republican senators and all the Democrats and Independents to vote for conviction in order to remove Trump from office. Almost no one believes that will happen. And if Trump faces a socialist Democrat such as Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders in the general election next year, Trump wins handsomely—even if he has been impeached.
  
  However, there is a possibility—no matter how unlikely—that power brokers have gotten all of the mileage that they are going to get out of Trump and will manipulate GOP movers and shakers in the senate to muster the votes needed to remove Trump from office. And if Trump sees that happening, he would probably resign first. Of course, this would mean that Vice President Mike Pence would be the Republican incumbent going into the 2020 election. And, again, if his opponent is a radical socialist such as Warren or Sanders, Pence would win the election in 2020.
  
  Yes, I’m saying it: No matter who the GOP candidate for president is in 2020—impeachment or no impeachment, Trump or Pence—if Warren or Sanders is the Democrat nominee, the Republican is the next president. If Biden is the Democrat nominee, however, all bets are off.
  
  But this column is not primarily focused on the presidential election. The fact is, it is far more important who your governor is, who your sheriff is and who your pastor is than who the president is. But since almost no one believes that, the problem only grows larger—no matter who is president.
  
  And the real problem with Donald Trump has nothing to do with Republicans and Democrats or liberals and conservatives. The problem is MUCH deeper than that.
  
  Donald Trump has successfully destroyed the patriot movement. And he has rebuilt the phony left-right paradigm into a fortress. He sucked all of the wind out of the national momentum toward constitutionalism that had been building in earnest during the past three decades. He has silenced patriot radio talk show hosts, Internet bloggers and columnists and has ensconced Zionism into the heart and soul of American politics. But all of that is NOT the worst of it. The worst of it is what Trump has done to America’s evangelical leaders.
  
  Costi Hinn, the nephew of prosperity gospel preacher, faith healer and apostate false teacher Benny Hinn, wrote a tremendously astute article for Religion News Service that illustrates the depth of Trump’s corruption of America’s evangelical leaders.
  
  Costi writes,
  
  Once upon a time, evangelical leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention (and beyond) were an unwavering group. Touting the authority of Scripture and an emphasis on Christ alone, they’d pound the pulpit, the radio airwaves, and print publications with the gospel of Jesus Christ. They were people of the Book and people of conviction.
  
  Even if you didn’t like what they had to say, you had to respect the clarity they spoke with. You knew where they stood. If there’s one thing we human beings appreciate, it’s having our expectations met to some degree. From LGBTQ liberals and democratic politicians, to hard right conservatives, we knew our differences and where we stood respectively.
  
  What’s more, there was, for the most part, agreement within evangelicalism and within denominations like the Southern Baptist Convention that certain false teachers were to be marked and avoided, as the Apostle Paul says in his Letter to the Romans. No matter the political differences or denominational differences, evangelicals could rely on one thing: we’d not promote prosperity charlatans who exploit desperate souls and make Christianity look horrific on a global level.
  
  Those days are gone.
  
  This week SBC adherents watched in (near) terror as prominent Southern Baptist pastors, including Franklin Graham, Jack Graham (no relation to Franklin or Billy), Robert Jeffress and Greg Laurie, tweeted their approval of a new book by Paula White, President Trump’s spiritual advisor. In another time, these long-respected gospel preachers and conservative leaders would never have risked reputation and religious conviction to promote her.
  
  White has been called a heretic in the Christian tradition by SBC leaders and repeatedly brings reproach on the gospel, Jesus Christ and the church. She’s been married and divorced more than once and is alleged to have had an inappropriate relationship with prosperity gospel preacher Benny Hinn. Even after photos showed them apparently holding hands outside a hotel, they both denied having a “fling” — though family members like me know the real story.
  
  She has preached a false gospel, taken contributions from poor and desperate souls, and influenced her way onto Trump’s spiritual advisory board. While the public storyline she sells is a tale of “rags to riches,” the real storyline is simply that false teachers like White climb to the top because they spend their entire lives chasing power and money; deceiving people until they get to the “there” they are after.
  
  The question then remains: why would these respected leaders waver in their convictions and promote a known false teacher?
  
  

 

[Soverign Grace]

One: They are “Trump-Drunk.” A leading voice in the SBC and popular speaker, Beth Moore perhaps said it best in a recent tweet: “Nothing on earth can make sober people drunker than being invited to a table where they can sip on power. It is a drug like no other.”

Two: They are just showing their true colors.

The Bible does, in fact, teach that certain people will defect from Christianity in the end (see the First Letter of John in the New Testament). These could even be church leaders who once appeared to be “for the truth” but ended up being for themselves.

I’d argue that it is very premature to make this case against all of these leaders, but we’d be naïve to discount it altogether. Sure, denial is easier to swallow but will only choke us to death.

There may come a day when evangelicals need to wake up to reality and empty the pews that these pastors preach to each week.

Amen and Amen, Costi. Wow! God bless you for your courage. I’ve been saying the same thing for years.

Costi Hinn previously publicly recanted and exposed the false gospel promoted by prosperity preachers such as Kenneth Copeland and his uncle, Benny Hinn.

And Costi Hinn isn’t the only brave soul exposing the heresy of Trump’s “spiritual advisor” Paula White. Writing for Christian Today, David Roberston authored a cogent analysis of White’s new book, Something Greater

. He confessed that he was motivated to read the book from the enthusiastic endorsements of evangelical leaders Franklin Graham, Robert Jeffress, Greg Laurie and Ralph Reed. The title of his analysis is: Paula White’s new book ‘Something Greater’ is revealing, disturbing and depressing. I’ll let you read it for yourself.

The point is, America’s evangelical leaders are tripping all over themselves to endorse this false teacher’s new book because she sits at the right hand of Donald Trump, and they want to increase—or at the very least, not decrease—their access to power.

Think of the souls that will be damned for all eternity by reading and believing Paula White’s book. Think of the people who will be led astray. Think of the damage Paula White and her apostate preacher friends are inflicting on millions of people around the world who are influenced by them. And by promoting her new book, evangelical leaders Franklin Graham, Robert Jeffress, Greg Laurie, Ralph Reed, et al. are active, deliberate partakers of White’s apostasy and blasphemy—all for greater access to Donald Trump.

It is no coincidence that the blasphemer Donald Trump would choose a blasphemer, Paula White, as his “spiritual advisor.” But what is even worse is how America’s evangelical Christian leaders are so willing to actively participate in these apostasies and blasphemies in order to stay in the good graces of America’s Blasphemer-in-Chief, Donald Trump.

Donald Trump has stolen the soul from millions of evangelical Christians.

Folks, try to forget about politics for just a minute. Forget about Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats. Forget about elections. Think about what we Christians say we believe. Think about the Biblical truths that we call convictions. Think about eternity—ours and those we influence. Is blind loyalty to Donald Trump worth the sacrifice of everything we hold dear and sacred?

I’m not talking about who we vote for or don’t vote for. I’m not talking about politics in any shape, manner or form. I’m talking about following God. I’m talking about the Christian faith. I’m talking about the Bible. I’m talking about spiritual convictions.

A host of America’s evangelical Christian leaders are blinded by power and privilege. And as a result, they have become “blind leaders of the blind.” (Matthew 15:14) And both they and the untold numbers of Christians who follow them have fallen into a large and terrible ditch.

Article posted with permission from Chuck Baldwin

 

[Soverign Grace]

You added a bit........it was more about the style of writing. Why would I think you were married to bobbyjo or by jesus?
It's not the conspiracy bits that made me wonder, anyhow I am sure heavenward will respond, unless they disappear like ' archangel ' , interestingly they only accused people who you felt threatened by, it was too much of a coincidence.
My issue is about deception, one person claims to be so ' Christian ' and mysteriously is able to say what they really think through another forum account. It happens sometimes.
I will keep an open mind on this- you have your theories, I have mine x
Rita

I thought this conversation was over but this will be the last time I respond since it's unfruitful. Willie has stalked me on here and repeatedly says nasty things. He often gets others to join in with him and he thus leads others into sin and they don't even realize it. Anyone who has been a Christian for any length of time knows what sin is and knows they aren't to participate in it - yet I see that at times Willie is able to manipulate weak-willed people into participating in his sin. Might want to think about that.

I blocked him but when someone responds to him I can see the mean-spirited things that he writes. There is absolutely no reason for him to continue to write vile things about me. I don't talk to him, say anything about him or to him, or have any interaction with him. He seems to have obsessive/ compulsive tendencies and an inferiority complex and just can't stand the fact that I blocked him and told two other posters on here to block him because he was dogging them too and I'll tell a 3rd. I surmise that he is divorced because no one would put up with him; the only person who would is a person who is desperate. He apparently has underlying anger or jealousy issues and tries to put down others on here to elevate himself. These are issues that he needs to get professional counseling for to explore the roots of this maladaptive behavior. (REDACTED) Yet I saw you respond to Willie as if he said nothing at all wrong. Maybe you're still harboring some ill will because someone pointed something out about you - that was NOT me. Just because others agree with my POV doesn't mean I'm related to them. If that were true then I could accuse you of being Willie's wife...or even Willie.

It seems you are okay with that Rita - you say nothing at all about Willie's sin yet are trying to point out a sin that you feel I am committing; if so maybe it's time for you to take a trip inward to search your own heart for sin instead of pointing out a sin you think you see in another. Take the log out of your own eye before you see fit to take the speck out of another's eye.

John 8:7

“So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”

Bobby Jo and 4Jesus are two other posters on here who Willie harangued.

 

[Butterfly]

SG - my post and conversation was not anything to do with Willie's posts, I explained why I posted what I did. If you cant grasp that, then that's not my problem. I have views and opinions of my own , I dont always choose to say anything. I merely asked a question , and heavenward has not answered yet.
I only made a comment that the posts were similar to yours - and when I summed up my reasons I was not accusing you personally of anything - so perhaps you should climb down of your high horse and read things properly.
I do keep an open mind on some things, that's my prerogative.
Rita

 

[bbyrd009]

Although this is a very sick woman with her Conspiracy Obsession, she may be right about an impending civil war.

ha pls we're in a civil war right now i guess? Have we ever been more divided as a country?

I think (in the U.S.A) it will be over "income inequality" and "free entitlements." In other words, the desire of the Left to change our form of government into Socialism.

but fascists paying no taxes whatsoever, getting "refunds" even, that still is not considered socialism, right. Allowing fascists to pay workers such a low wage that they are still eligible for food stamps, etc, = "not socialism," huh

 

[Soverign Grace]

SG - my post and conversation was not anything to do with Willie's posts, I explained why I posted what I did. If you cant grasp that, then that's not my problem. I have views and opinions of my own , I dont always choose to say anything. I merely asked a question , and heavenward has not answered yet.
I only made a comment that the posts were similar to yours - and when I summed up my reasons I was not accusing you personally of anything - so perhaps you should climb down of your high horse and read things properly.
I do keep an open mind on some things, that's my prerogative.
Rita

It looks as if you're harboring anger over someone pointing out something about you previously - like you never quite let it go and it's festered all this time. I can't recall what was said but it must have bothered you. Come to think of it you always seem to be on the side of Willie. You must have some connection to him. Come to think of it - you showed up in the other conflict with Willie. Funny how you seem to appear whenever Willie gets into it with another and you always parrot what he says. You may either be Willie or know him. Like Willie you want to continue to engage with me even after I've discontinued the conversation. I've known people who have accused others of doing what they themselves are doing. I'll leave you with some Christian advice straight from Scripture if you are who you say you are:

Proverbs 26:17

“He that passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.”

I've had my fill of this and am not responding again. I wish you a blessed Sunday.

 

[Soverign Grace]

ha pls we're in a civil war right now i guess? Have we ever been more divided as a country?

but fascists paying no taxes whatsoever, getting "refunds" even, that still is not considered socialism, right. Allowing fascists to pay workers such a low wage that they are still eligible for food stamps, etc, = "not socialism," huh

This is the most divided I can ever recall this country being. It's to the point where I think something is going to erupt. I have gotten to the point with a group I belong to where I don't even want to identify myself as Conservative. We're never to deny Christ but I also don't think we have to invite trouble. I read this morning that Democrats are publishing the names of Trump supporters in the hopes they'll get attacked. There is something really bad on the horizon. I think we all tend to sense it.

 

[Butterfly]

SG - I am not harbouring anything, I am frustrated by how you have interpreted what I have conveyed.
I think you need to analyse your own responses x
Rita

 

[ScottA]

Your statement is not scriptural. What does the state do when someone breaks a law? Did you allow your children to run wild Scott or did you discipline them? What does Scripture say about wrongdoing Scott? Some behaviors are so bad that sometimes a person needs to feel the negative effects of what they're doing in order to try to get them to change their behavior. Judgment begins in the House of God...

If you "normalize" Willie's behavior then you have a serious problem. It's distinctly un-christian and out of place on a Christian site and it's really telling if you try to "normalize" it just because you have a bone to pick because you wholly support Trump and I don't. That's wrong and something is wrong within your own heart if you condone Willie's evil. You're just encouraging him to commit more evil. I've talked to at least two people by pm who Willie had harassed. I spoke with a third person on here who said that he's mean. I hope that you search your own heart Scott. You captured my words before I had the chance to delete them. After I posted that I didn't feel right and came back and changed my post because I don't want to be mean. I sincerely hope that Willie changes because he has something wrong within him and he refuses to face it.

And just because you are not informed about something doesn't make you right and me wrong. Think about it.

I had a friend who was involved in something and I learned how those involved in satanism communicate using hand signs. I was with this person one time and saw it with my own eyes. It's done surreptitiously but I happened to turn around and caught them flashing a hand sign to a man dressed in black at the mall. God allowed me to see it and now later when I began looking into why all these things were happening in the world I read that Freemasons communicate with hand signs. Freemasons and Satanists are similar in their worship of Belial. I would say it's a coincidence if a few people were caught doing it but every world leader throws the same hand signs including Hollywood actors and actresses.

Scripture tells us to expose evil.

Ephesians 5:11

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”

I may be wrong but I don't think so. These people had Kennedy killed by his driver - and if you've ever worked or know someone who works with top secret information there is a dive into that person's background. They don't pick just anyone to drive the President. I read that they have their own people in the top offices of government, education, media, churches. When you see just how integrated they've become then you'd see that an independent has no chance whatsoever of getting into a top position. You can look online and find the video where Trump admits he's a Freemason - I believe his father was if I'm not mistaken. Take a few hours to look into what they're about. I read that he's likely a 33rd degree - which is high.

I am not the only Christian who knows something isn't right about Trump - you'll see that if you do a search online. That being said, I still vote all R but I think I'll vote Independent for President - but I don't think our votes count anymore. The elite pick both sides I believe just like they fund both sides of wars.

Sometimes I've reached the point where I realize that some people don't really want the truth or they just lack the insight, intelligence, or savvy to grasp what is before their eyes. It's like trying to talk about spiritual things with someone who has no spiritual eyes to see - they've not been spiritually regenerated. To try to continue to talk to them about spiritual rebirth when they're laughing at you and calling you naive, a fool, or a dreamer - you see that it's futile. Christ tells us to shake the dust off your feet. In cases of it being people you happen to care about you walk away and pray for them - that God will bring them to the truth. The point being is that the person has to remain in their lies or delusion until God sees fit to bring them out of it.

I saw that a family who owned a church we attended were corrupt - I picked up undercurrents and never took to them. There were other Christians who swallowed their facade hook line and sinker. I tried telling someone about them and was I was vilified. I began to doubt myself but I never liked them. So just as my instincts - or the Holy Spirit - had forewarned me that corrupt family cheated a family member. The pastor called us over to his house and told us an earful. I learned to respect that 'still, small, voice' that made me uneasy about someone. I learned not to trust others' perceptions and it steeled me to accept the abuse that comes with the territory. Not that I always discount others' perceptions; I listen and pray and still go by that gut feeling.

When I was in high school I had a friend who became a Christian. She had been riding her bike and a man grabbed her and choked her when she tried to get away. Luckily she escaped. I think it was the impetus for her turning to God. My other friend and I ridiculed her. We didn't have eyes to see back then. Years later now look at me - I'm the one talking about God and being ridiculed by the unregenerated.

I'll leave you with this quote:

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Arthur Schopenhauer

And these Scripture verses regarding Willie. By you condoning his sin - and it IS sin - you are yourself sinning. I've watched carefully as Willie pulls others into sin and instigates and stirs others up to join in his sin. I warn you Scott to be careful to not give 'approval' to one who practices sin.

Romans 1:28-32 ESV
And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

2 Thessalonians 3:14-15 ESV
If anyone does not obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed. Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.

Willie has been warned as a brother. You have been warned as a brother.

No...both Willie and I are reacting to you "normalizing" fear and speculations with paranoia, and you "using " scripture is against God.

 

[bbyrd009]

This is the most divided I can ever recall this country being. It's to the point where I think something is going to erupt. I have gotten to the point with a group I belong to where I don't even want to identify myself as Conservative. We're never to deny Christ but I also don't think we have to invite trouble. I read this morning that Democrats are publishing the names of Trump supporters in the hopes they'll get attacked. There is something really bad on the horizon. I think we all tend to sense it.

Don’t take this wrong, but imo that is a good thing, maybe some more people will leave the world!

As for something really bad on the horizon, find a Rohingya and tell them that imo, see what they say

 

[bbyrd009]

Picture if you will the most spoiled people (Christians) on the planet, the very richest country, all full of people declaring “the sky is falling! the sky is falling!”

Not from our point of view of course, But this is nothing less than high comedy wadr

 

[ScottA]

One: They are “Trump-Drunk.” A leading voice in the SBC and popular speaker, Beth Moore perhaps said it best in a recent tweet: “Nothing on earth can make sober people drunker than being invited to a table where they can sip on power. It is a drug like no other.”

Two: They are just showing their true colors.

The Bible does, in fact, teach that certain people will defect from Christianity in the end (see the First Letter of John in the New Testament). These could even be church leaders who once appeared to be “for the truth” but ended up being for themselves.

I’d argue that it is very premature to make this case against all of these leaders, but we’d be naïve to discount it altogether. Sure, denial is easier to swallow but will only choke us to death.

There may come a day when evangelicals need to wake up to reality and empty the pews that these pastors preach to each week.

Amen and Amen, Costi. Wow! God bless you for your courage. I’ve been saying the same thing for years.

Costi Hinn previously publicly recanted and exposed the false gospel promoted by prosperity preachers such as Kenneth Copeland and his uncle, Benny Hinn.

And Costi Hinn isn’t the only brave soul exposing the heresy of Trump’s “spiritual advisor” Paula White. Writing for Christian Today, David Roberston authored a cogent analysis of White’s new book, Something Greater

. He confessed that he was motivated to read the book from the enthusiastic endorsements of evangelical leaders Franklin Graham, Robert Jeffress, Greg Laurie and Ralph Reed. The title of his analysis is: Paula White’s new book ‘Something Greater’ is revealing, disturbing and depressing. I’ll let you read it for yourself.

The point is, America’s evangelical leaders are tripping all over themselves to endorse this false teacher’s new book because she sits at the right hand of Donald Trump, and they want to increase—or at the very least, not decrease—their access to power.

Think of the souls that will be damned for all eternity by reading and believing Paula White’s book. Think of the people who will be led astray. Think of the damage Paula White and her apostate preacher friends are inflicting on millions of people around the world who are influenced by them. And by promoting her new book, evangelical leaders Franklin Graham, Robert Jeffress, Greg Laurie, Ralph Reed, et al. are active, deliberate partakers of White’s apostasy and blasphemy—all for greater access to Donald Trump.

It is no coincidence that the blasphemer Donald Trump would choose a blasphemer, Paula White, as his “spiritual advisor.” But what is even worse is how America’s evangelical Christian leaders are so willing to actively participate in these apostasies and blasphemies in order to stay in the good graces of America’s Blasphemer-in-Chief, Donald Trump.

Donald Trump has stolen the soul from millions of evangelical Christians.

Folks, try to forget about politics for just a minute. Forget about Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats. Forget about elections. Think about what we Christians say we believe. Think about the Biblical truths that we call convictions. Think about eternity—ours and those we influence. Is blind loyalty to Donald Trump worth the sacrifice of everything we hold dear and sacred?

I’m not talking about who we vote for or don’t vote for. I’m not talking about politics in any shape, manner or form. I’m talking about following God. I’m talking about the Christian faith. I’m talking about the Bible. I’m talking about spiritual convictions.

A host of America’s evangelical Christian leaders are blinded by power and privilege. And as a result, they have become “blind leaders of the blind.” (Matthew 15:14) And both they and the untold numbers of Christians who follow them have fallen into a large and terrible ditch.

Article posted with permission from Chuck Baldwin

That's all conjecture and political rhetoric. My position is based on personal interaction with Trump, from looking him in the eyes and seeing the actual truth...and all that you post is junk.

 

[Soverign Grace]

No...both Willie and I are reacting to you "normalizing" fear and speculations with paranoia, and you "using " scripture is against God.

Then there is something wrong there Scott - a Christian isn't to treat another Christian like that - and because you don't agree with my politics is no reason to go along with his hate.

 

[Soverign Grace]

That's all conjecture and political rhetoric. My position is based on personal interaction with Trump, from looking him in the eyes and seeing the actual truth...and all that you post is junk.

Scott - I personally interacted with Christians - looked into their eyes - who treated me good at first but later did something terrible. They seemed nice at first - superficially - but as I came to know them I saw them for what they were. You interacted on a superficial level with Trump and he seemed like a good guy. He seemed like a regular guy. I too felt those things. I was asked to work on his campaign because I was a strong supporter. But then I couldn't look the other way - the way so many Christians are doing - when he packed his cabinet with CFR - Council on Foreign Relations. I read that Jared is CFR. If you don't know about CFR I urge you to research them. They're all about destroying America and moving us into a one world government.

I couldn't look the other way when Trump continued the wars he said he'd stop. He continued everything his predecessors did. I got an email from CAGW telling me that under Trump our tax dollars are going to pay for all kinds of things for migrants and migrants in gangs. Really think about that - I have a family member who had an 89 year old man stand at the pharmacy counter and cry because he couldn't afford his insulin. She has all kinds of people coming in who can't pay for their prescriptions. We made good money in our lifetime but I can't afford one of my prescriptions. Where is the help for Americans??? I got an email from IRLI stating that migrants are now demanding maid service. Because their made to clean up after themselves in the detention centers they're suing America. So now your taxes will be paying for maid service to go in and clean up after migrants. I don't know about you but I clean up after myself.

There are people who are very adept at fooling others - I've met them in my lifetime. I was forced to deal with highly manipulative people one time. They were very very skilled at fooling others. They were wolves in sheep clothing. They put on an act in the town and one became the VP of the PTA. Sat up there in her dress with her smile and everybody thought she was sooooo nice! My husband walked over their house and saw her snorting crack off her kitchen counter.

If you want to educate yourself you can read about how Freemasons communicate using hand signals: Masonic Hand Signs Explained: Hand Signals of Freemasonry

Secret Masonic Handshakes, Passwords, Signs and Grips for the Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft and Master Mason Degrees of Blue Lodge Freemasonry

Donald Trump the Freemason

Be careful what you say - some day you may eat your words.

There is a lot more on the internet but some people - no matter how much evidence you present - want to continue in their beliefs. So be it.

I've found that those who don't research carefully and in-depth are the most resistant. "The wise makes his way sure..."

Everyone is free to believe as they want but a Christian should not condone evil acts by another just because you disagree with their politics. I find that repulsive. Willie is repulsive and has led you into sin - just like he leads others into sin. What kind of 'Christian' are you???