The coming Armageddon before Armageddon?

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SG , I have been thinking about your last post- now I know that you will consider me ' interfering ' and as you have conveyed many times, you will equally see me as being in the wrong for not defending you with regards to what Willie says ..... However it is up to you whether or not you consider what I say.
I believe The letter of James asks the Christians ' what causes quarrels amongst you ' and relays that it is the desires within you. It also mentions about how the Christians were ' taking one another to court' - that came to mind when I read your warning post to Willie. James did not see that as the way forward, he saw it as ' acting like the world ' - so perhaps you should consider your threat in light of how a Christian should respond when they feel threatened. What did David do ?
What did Jesus do ?
One remained silent, the other prayed - neither chose to get revenge ( isn't taking someone to court seeking for yourself some kind of pay back )
Also, have you read all the threads on this forum, have you seen how some people choose to talk to one another- quite frankly I have been amased by how quickly accusations are thrown around, how quickly judgements are made about one another.
You joined the forum by choice, no one is forcing you to be here. You equally made the choice to block willies posts ( you mentioned it in an earlier post ) and yet you are reading what he says, and you and someone else ( presume your husband ) have printed them out - that means you are cocentrating on them, absorbing them. Is that wise if it makes you fearful- wouldn't it be better to actually not read the posts, that is there for your protection.
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It is your own sin that began the issue here...but I am going to bow out of any further comment and leave you to your own will.

No Scott it is your sin. I posted my beliefs - which I am FULLY entitled to on here about President Trump. You are so incensed because you disagreed with my viewpoints that you're willing to sin and go along with Willie posting vile things entirely against Scripture. What in the Name of God do you believe anyway? Are you truly regenerated? You are violating the most basic direction in Scripture on how to treat a fellow believer. That's your problem and your sin, NOT mine.

You could have chosen to ignore my posts or state you disagree with them and leave it at that. Instead you made the choice to join Willie in agreeing with his vile post - and you see nothing wrong with that??? You must be deaf to the Holy Spirit or not even spiritually regenerated.

I posted for those who might be interested what I found. NO ONE should be posting vile things - I don't care how much you disagree with it! I don't think your pastor would agree with your actions and I think you need to go back to the basics or else really look into whether or not you're truly spiritually regenerated because my Bible seems to read differently than yours.

This is what Scripture guided me in posting my belief that Trump was handpicked because he's a Freemason who is appearing as an angel of light:

Ephesians 5:11

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”

This is what Scripture should have guided YOU:


Ephesians 4:32

“And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.”

I have NEVER been unkind to you even though I disagree with YOU. I can't say the same for you. We must be reading different Bibles.

So just because you're a Trump supporter you think it's okay to vilify a non-Trump supporting Christian? Everyone has differing levels of intelligence, intuition, and keenness of vision. It just may be that you can't 'see' things yet. I've found that it's like telling others who are spiritually blind about something Scriptural - they don't yet have the spiritual 'eyes' to 'see.' It may be that I'm wrong. It's up to God to show this. It's not up to me to bash you or you to bash me!

This conversation is taking energy away from me that I have to conserve. It's also causing me lack of peace on here, making me feel uncomfortable and I come here for Christian fellowship and support NOT to be bashed by a Trump supporter who violates Scriptural principles just because I believe differently than they do. I love you as a brother in Christ. I love Willie as a brother in Christ. I hope and pray that I reflect my beliefs on here and when I fall short that God will show me. Something is wrong because I don't feel peace in my Spirit and I don't like it. I am not going to be abused for my beliefs by you or anyone else.

I told you the direction I was taking in this: I am shaking the dust off my feet. This conversation is over.
 

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I was reading Sons of Liberty this morning and read that if President Trump is impeached "all hell will break loose." I've read that even Franklin Graham is saying it, and President Trump is saying that the stock market will crash.

Does anyone see a civil war on the horizon? Do you plan to 'take to the streets' if President Trump is impeached? I just wonder if most Christians feel that they've turned the other cheek far too often.

I personally believe that WW 3 is already planned or the impeachment may be the ruse that is used to bring in martial law and the U.N. but I could be wrong.

If Donald Trump Is Impeached, That Will Be A Sign That All Hell Is About To Break Loose In America

Well what happens in Aus, won't always settle as well in the US haha, I think Australia handled multiple leadership changes in the past 10 years pretty well (half of them not voted in by the public, but caused by leadership spills, challenges and stepping down due to massive pressure from the political party with-in)

The UK is another recent example, Theresa May gets pressured, and feels forced to step down, but their reaction to that wasn't anywhere near as calm as Australias, it has even been said that Boris Johnson used the Brexit as an opportunity to work his way up to become a leader.

The USA I would imagine the streets would be even worse there if an elected President lost their job in some sort of forceful way before their elected term had finished. Would it lead to WW3 if Trump is impeached? I don't think so. Would it lead to a modern Civil War in USA? I would say it's highly possible. The divide between the left and right, Democrat and Republican is already big, in times the streets in parts of USA have already gotten real messy because of people not getting their way, and if Trump was impeached, I don't know how people will react, but the public reaction will be massive and it wouldn't be a pretty sight.
 
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Well what happens in Aus, won't always settle as well in the US haha, I think Australia handled multiple leadership changes in the past 10 years pretty well (half of them not voted in by the public, but caused by leadership spills, challenges and stepping down due to massive pressure from the political party with-in)

The UK is another recent example, Theresa May gets pressured, and feels forced to step down, but their reaction to that wasn't anywhere near as calm as Australias, it has even been said that Boris Johnson used the Brexit as an opportunity to work his way up to become a leader.

The USA I would imagine the streets would be even worse there if an elected President lost their job in some sort of forceful way before their elected term had finished. Would it lead to WW3 if Trump is impeached? I don't think so. Would it lead to a modern Civil War in USA? I would say it's highly possible. The divide between the left and right, Democrat and Republican is already big, in times the streets in parts of USA have already gotten real messy because of people not getting their way, and if Trump was impeached, I don't know how people will react, but the public reaction will be massive and it wouldn't be a pretty sight.


I was reading the other day how each country affects all the rest. I read something about if the U.S. dollar crashes it's going to be felt worldwide.

I read some bad things about Theresa May - that she didn't hold to the positions she claimed - she's really for staying in the European Union. Most of the leaders who make it to top positions are on board with the New World Order. I read about this extensively when I had many hours to fill. It's all allegedly planned at the Bildeberger meetings where we peons have no say.

There is something that appears to be brewing in the U.S. - the left is pushing so very hard this socialism and political correctness and you have all these issues over the Somalian gangs taking over Minnesota and fighting the people there - I'm just wondering at what point Christians/ the right - are going to say "enough." So I agree with you that it is highly possible that some kind of civil war would take place here. I just feel it - something is going to give. As you've said - the divide between Democrats and Republicans is as far as the east is from the west. It may not be a question of 'if' but of 'when.'
 

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No Scott it is your sin. I posted my beliefs - which I am FULLY entitled to on here about President Trump. You are so incensed because you disagreed with my viewpoints that you're willing to sin and go along with Willie posting vile things entirely against Scripture. What in the Name of God do you believe anyway? Are you truly regenerated? You are violating the most basic direction in Scripture on how to treat a fellow believer. That's your problem and your sin, NOT mine.

You could have chosen to ignore my posts or state you disagree with them and leave it at that. Instead you made the choice to join Willie in agreeing with his vile post - and you see nothing wrong with that??? You must be deaf to the Holy Spirit or not even spiritually regenerated.

I posted for those who might be interested what I found. NO ONE should be posting vile things - I don't care how much you disagree with it! I don't think your pastor would agree with your actions and I think you need to go back to the basics or else really look into whether or not you're truly spiritually regenerated because my Bible seems to read differently than yours.

This is what Scripture guided me in posting my belief that Trump was handpicked because he's a Freemason who is appearing as an angel of light:

Ephesians 5:11

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”

This is what Scripture should have guided YOU:


Ephesians 4:32

“And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.”

I have NEVER been unkind to you even though I disagree with YOU. I can't say the same for you. We must be reading different Bibles.

So just because you're a Trump supporter you think it's okay to vilify a non-Trump supporting Christian? Everyone has differing levels of intelligence, intuition, and keenness of vision. It just may be that you can't 'see' things yet. I've found that it's like telling others who are spiritually blind about something Scriptural - they don't yet have the spiritual 'eyes' to 'see.' It may be that I'm wrong. It's up to God to show this. It's not up to me to bash you or you to bash me!

This conversation is taking energy away from me that I have to conserve. It's also causing me lack of peace on here, making me feel uncomfortable and I come here for Christian fellowship and support NOT to be bashed by a Trump supporter who violates Scriptural principles just because I believe differently than they do. I love you as a brother in Christ. I love Willie as a brother in Christ. I hope and pray that I reflect my beliefs on here and when I fall short that God will show me. Something is wrong because I don't feel peace in my Spirit and I don't like it. I am not going to be abused for my beliefs by you or anyone else.

I told you the direction I was taking in this: I am shaking the dust off my feet. This conversation is over.
No one is "entitled"...allowed yes, but not "entitled." Matthew 19:8

It looks as though you have yet to remove the post in your own eye. :(
 
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Well what happens in Aus, won't always settle as well in the US haha, I think Australia handled multiple leadership changes in the past 10 years pretty well (half of them not voted in by the public, but caused by leadership spills, challenges and stepping down due to massive pressure from the political party with-in)

The UK is another recent example, Theresa May gets pressured, and feels forced to step down, but their reaction to that wasn't anywhere near as calm as Australias, it has even been said that Boris Johnson used the Brexit as an opportunity to work his way up to become a leader.

The USA I would imagine the streets would be even worse there if an elected President lost their job in some sort of forceful way before their elected term had finished. Would it lead to WW3 if Trump is impeached? I don't think so. Would it lead to a modern Civil War in USA? I would say it's highly possible. The divide between the left and right, Democrat and Republican is already big, in times the streets in parts of USA have already gotten real messy because of people not getting their way, and if Trump was impeached, I don't know how people will react, but the public reaction will be massive and it wouldn't be a pretty sight.
Our PM Mr Turncoat was a Traitor to his Party as he was desperately trying to create it into becoming a Socialist Party, changing it's spots but keeping the name, it's a wonder he stayed as long as he did, but for buy his way trough, with all the money that he ripped of small investing people with the company that he worked for or in truth embezzled with, he should of been shot for that alone, before he became PM, but he was the medias man, as he is involved in all that mob of Satanist creep show up to his neck.

Boris lay low and did not take up the PM as he was to be the PM but handed it to May and then she had to go, ran out of steam but only played the game and never was truly for Brexit as she is not genuine and was playing stupid games leading it on and on.
It sure looks like the UK is not controlled by the voters at all as the government said that the people got it wrong :rolleyes:o_O:confused::mad: how dare they say such to the people, the unmitigated gall, what a blight ! who do they think that they are Socialist !
Only Socialist say crap like that to the people ! and such love trying to stand over the people. boy they are going to have egg on their faces if the UK does leave as the UK will boom ahead without that German and French ect Socialist rabble, that is only trying to enslave all Europe under their power to become lap dogs to such evil, who want's to become like the bloody Greeks totally powerless and treated like that.
 
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Our PM Mr Turncoat was a Traitor to his Party as he was desperately trying to create it into becoming a Socialist Party, changing it's spots but keeping the name, it's a wonder he stayed as long as he did, but for buy his way trough, with all the money that he ripped of small investing people with the company that he worked for or in truth embezzled with, he should of been shot for that alone, before he became PM, but he was the medias man, as he is involved in all that mob of Satanist creep show up to his neck.

Boris lay low and did not take up the PM as he was to be the PM but handed it to May and then she had to go, ran out of steam but only played the game and never was truly for Brexit as she is not genuine and was playing stupid games leading it on and on.
It sure looks like the UK is not controlled by the voters at all as the government said that the people got it wrong :rolleyes:o_O:confused::mad: how dare they say such to the people, the unmitigated gall, what a blight ! who do they think that they are Socialist !
Only Socialist say crap like that to the people ! and such love trying to stand over the people. boy they are going to have egg on their faces if the UK does leave as the UK will boom ahead without that German and French ect Socialist rabble, that is only trying to enslave all Europe under their power to become lap dogs to such evil, who want's to become like the bloody Greeks totally powerless and treated like that.
I can't see it happening Reggie, it's not moved to the 30th January, and we now have a general election mid December. I cannot see a general election achieving anything, people are so frustrated by the whole thing. None of the main parties will get my vote. Personally we should have just left today without a deal- right now we look weak to Europe , we have shown no backbone what so ever.
It will be interesting to see if any of the parties offer another referendum to lure the voters in, the remainders would love that and could well win this time round, but what does that say about democracy if that happens. It's still a shambles.
Not sure I fully understand how and why a general election is needed, or should I say I don't see how it will change a thing with Brexit if another referendum is not placed on the table. Won't we be in the same situation !?
 

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Willie I'm telling you this one time. I've printed your harassment and we looked into cyberbullying and cyberstalking laws and there are laws on the books in my state for this type of harassment - it's illegal and you're making me feel unsafe on here. If you persist we're taking it to our local prosecutor's office and we're going to have you prosecuted. I say this not to hurt you but you need some type of counseling. You have some obsession with me that's unhealthy. You lead others into sin and you then go sit in church - which is blasphemous and I'm sure repugnant in God's sight. If you want to talk to me and work the issue out you can pm me. Otherwise you'd better watch your step.
yikes SG, under the law much?
a bit over the top, dont you think?
i mean i know the truth hurts bro, but your son was being a moron at best ok
calling fire down on Pelosi, too?

you are completely off the rails imo
you are the one doing all the harrassing near as i can tell
 

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I was reading the other day how each country affects all the rest. I read something about if the U.S. dollar crashes it's going to be felt worldwide.

I read some bad things about Theresa May - that she didn't hold to the positions she claimed - she's really for staying in the European Union. Most of the leaders who make it to top positions are on board with the New World Order. I read about this extensively when I had many hours to fill. It's all allegedly planned at the Bildeberger meetings where we peons have no say.

There is something that appears to be brewing in the U.S. - the left is pushing so very hard this socialism and political correctness and you have all these issues over the Somalian gangs taking over Minnesota and fighting the people there - I'm just wondering at what point Christians/ the right - are going to say "enough." So I agree with you that it is highly possible that some kind of civil war would take place here. I just feel it - something is going to give. As you've said - the divide between Democrats and Republicans is as far as the east is from the west. It may not be a question of 'if' but of 'when.'
ty for the World News btw
 

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yikes SG, under the law much?
a bit over the top, dont you think?
i mean i know the truth hurts bro, but your son was being a moron at best ok
calling fire down on Pelosi, too?

you are completely off the rails imo
you are the one doing all the harrassing near as i can tell
Now tell the truth bro; you didn’t talk to any lawyer, or he would’ve laughed in your face just like I’m doing, right
 
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Okay folks this thread is going to be closed. It is obvious that there are folks here who are just wanting to win arguments and many are in breach of forum rules which would have disabled your ability to post for some time. This is a discussion forum and folks are allowed to have their opinion on various subjects but they are not entitled to be rude, offend or personally attack other members. We are supposed to be Christians and as such, we should be agreeing to disagree and move on.

It is very discouraging when you think that new or possible mature believers may be reading these threads and are put off joining due to the nasty, pointless one upmanship being displayed here. I will not be giving out any warning points but I will be watching how you treat one another on other threads. Some of you may just have to have a permanent holiday if this continues.

PS: Please do not rehash this thread somewhere else. Thank you.
 
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