The Day of the Lord

[robert derrick]

Remembering what the day of the Lord is, shows when the day of the Lord comes.

Thinking of the day of the Lord only as to what happens on earth, overlooks the simple truth that the day of the Lord, is the day the Lord comes to earth.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.

How can any man say the day of the Lord on earth is not come, except we say Jesus is not Lord, or Jesus Christ is not come in the flesh?

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

The Lord has come on earth, The day of the Lord is come on earth.

The day of the Lord is not a single one time event, especially not waiting in the future to come.

The day of the Lord has it's beginning and ending, which is the first day the Lord is come on earth from heaven, and the last day the Lord is on earth, before the earth itself is melted by fire of God from heaven.

The day of the Lord on earth is come in the days of His flesh, is come in the days of our flesh, and will come in the days of His resurrected body with His saints on earth.

All the prophesies about the day of the Lord on earth will come to pass, that have yet come to pass, but that day is already come on earth, with the greatest prophecy already coming to pass: Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Remembering what the day of the Lord is, shows when the day of the Lord comes.

Thinking of the day of the Lord only as to what happens on earth, overlooks the simple truth that the day of the Lord, is the day the Lord comes to earth.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.

How can any man say the day of the Lord on earth is not come, except we say Jesus is not Lord, or Jesus Christ is not come in the flesh?

The day of the Lord is not a single one time event, other than it's beginning and ending, which is the first day the Lord is come on earth from heaven, and the last day the Lord is on earth, before the earth itself is melted by fire of God.

I still have concerns over how the Bible, as a whole, means to use "the Day of the Lord?" Is it an eschatological Day, or particular Day of Judgment that takes place in history, or a Day of Special Occasion in which God does something spectacular, good or evil?

My guess is that the term may have some technical connotations, expressing the Eschaton. Throughout the Prophets we hear this focus upon a final resolution for Israel, which in NT terms now includes the fate of Gentile nations. A Day is coming in which Messiah will establish his Eternal Kingdom on earth, with the removal of all forces to prevent this.

But the use of the term "Day of the Lord" can also be used in particular situations, non-eschatological, for historic events in which God either judges or saves. It may even be used for the 1st Coming of Jesus, and for the judgment that fell upon Israel immediately after that event.

It really depends, in my thinking, on the context for each use. The problem begins when we try to tie every use of the term "Day of the Lord" to a single context. And language does not work that way. Each use must be viewed in its own context.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Remembering what the day of the Lord is, shows when the day of the Lord comes.

Thinking of the day of the Lord only as to what happens on earth, overlooks the simple truth that the day of the Lord, is the day the Lord comes to earth.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.

How can any man say the day of the Lord on earth is not come, except we say Jesus is not Lord, or Jesus Christ is not come in the flesh?

The day of the Lord is not a single one time event, other than it's beginning and ending, which is the first day the Lord is come on earth from heaven, and the last day the Lord is on earth, before the earth itself is melted by fire of God.

With terms like The Day of the Lord, we MUST learn what the APOSTLES mean. Here is an example of a Semitic writing style called synonymous parallelism the Semitic Apostles used. They say the same thing twice, and the confirming word tells what the "day" means in this case, and the rest shows when.

1 Corinthians 1:
7 so that you come short in no gift, eagerly waiting for the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ, 8 who will also confirm you to the end, that you may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

So, Robert, to these Christians, Paul is telling them to be blameless in that future event. What is it, Robert?

 

[Randy Kluth]

With terms like The Day of the Lord, we MUST learn what the APOSTLES mean. Here is an example of a Semitic writing style called synonymous parallelism the Semitic Apostles used. They say the same thing twice, and the confirming word tells what the "day" means in this case, and the rest shows when.

1 Corinthians 1:
7 so that you come short in no gift, eagerly waiting for the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ, 8 who will also confirm you to the end, that you may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

So, Robert, to these Christians, Paul is telling them to be blameless in that future event. What is it, Robert?

Great point! Yes, the Scriptures are full of parallelisms, statements that are made twice to confirm what is being said, or to emphasize it. Of course, I would still say that one cannot take a particular use of the word "Day of the Lord" and apply it anywhere else it appears in Scriptures. This would be an Interpretive Fallacy. Each occasion must define the use of this term in its own context, since it may mean one thing in one passage and another thing entirely in a different passage.

How much the Day of the Lord is used, biblically, in the eschatological sense I don't claim to know. But it appears to weigh for heavily in favor of its common use. We see a big emphasis, at least in the background, in the Prophets where they predict the end of Israel's miseries and the fulfillment of their Hope. I should think the Day of the Lord also acquires this attention, as well.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Great point! Yes, the Scriptures are full of parallelisms, statements that are made twice to confirm what is being said, or to emphasize it. Of course, I would still say that one cannot take a particular use of the word "Day of the Lord" and apply it anywhere else it appears in Scriptures. This would be an Interpretive Fallacy. Each occasion must define the use of this term in its own context, since it may mean one thing in one passage and another thing entirely in a different passage.

How much the Day of the Lord is used, biblically, in the eschatological sense I don't claim to know. But it appears to weigh for heavily in favor of its common use. We see a big emphasis, at least in the background, in the Prophets where they predict the end of Israel's miseries and the fulfillment of their Hope. I should think the Day of the Lord also acquires this attention, as well.

Are your sure Randy? I've looked at the exact "day of the Lord" and it seems always to refer to the end times.

 

[robert derrick]

I still have concerns over how the Bible, as a whole, means to use "the Day of the Lord?" Is it an eschatological Day, or particular Day of Judgment that takes place in history, or a Day of Special Occasion in which God does something spectacular, good or evil?

My guess is that the term may have some technical connotations, expressing the Eschaton. Throughout the Prophets we hear this focus upon a final resolution for Israel, which in NT terms now includes the fate of Gentile nations. A Day is coming in which Messiah will establish his Eternal Kingdom on earth, with the removal of all forces to prevent this.

But the use of the term "Day of the Lord" can also be used in particular situations, non-eschatological, for historic events in which God either judges or saves. It may even be used for the 1st Coming of Jesus, and for the judgment that fell upon Israel immediately after that event.

It really depends, in my thinking, on the context for each use. The problem begins when we try to tie every use of the term "Day of the Lord" to a single context. And language does not work that way. Each use must be viewed in its own context.

There are of course many things that happen on earth during that day of the Lord, but it certainly begins with the Lord coming down to earth to be made flesh.

All the prophecies of the day of Lord say one thing for certain: it is the day the Lord comes down to earth.

The things He does in that day is save, judge, rule, and defeat His enemies, and helps to overcome them that make war with His saints.

Since the coming of the Lord in the flesh, when that day is come is no longer the question.

What happens on earth in that day tomorrow, which first came over 2000 years ago, is the only questions to debate about fulfillment of prophecy.

We are in the day of the Lord Jesus Christ, before His second appearing in the air, for all men to see.

 

[ScottA]

I still have concerns over how the Bible, as a whole, means to use "the Day of the Lord?" Is it an eschatological Day, or particular Day of Judgment that takes place in history, or a Day of Special Occasion in which God does something spectacular, good or evil?

My guess is that the term may have some technical connotations, expressing the Eschaton. Throughout the Prophets we hear this focus upon a final resolution for Israel, which in NT terms now includes the fate of Gentile nations. A Day is coming in which Messiah will establish his Eternal Kingdom on earth, with the removal of all forces to prevent this.

But the use of the term "Day of the Lord" can also be used in particular situations, non-eschatological, for historic events in which God either judges or saves. It may even be used for the 1st Coming of Jesus, and for the judgment that fell upon Israel immediately after that event.

It really depends, in my thinking, on the context for each use. The problem begins when we try to tie every use of the term "Day of the Lord" to a single context. And language does not work that way. Each use must be viewed in its own context.

Context is a funny or peculiar thing.

As context pertains to revelations--literally the very thing that God has done with all of creation and time--Jesus has said, many things like "the kingdom of heaven is like...", and also given parables. If a parable then were regarding the greater kingdom of God, i.e. "heavenly things", the objects of which was "earthly things"--what then is the context?

Or put in this way: If a parable of timeless, eternal reality was given for revelation using times to break down the key matters of importance--which is the context, time or eternity?

 

[robert derrick]

Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

How can the day of the Lord not be on earth, when the Lord Himself is come on earth, and Abraham was glad to see His day on earth?

This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

Abraham saw it. Men on earth saw it. And now all saints see it and rejoice in it.

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

We see Jesus on earth within us, not just Jesus seated at the right hand of God.

 

[robert derrick]

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.

The day of the Lord is come, because the Lord is come on earth.

The Scripture says Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, not came in the flesh.

If He were no longer on earth, after He died on the cross, then like all men that die, we would say He came or was on earth.

For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

The day of the Lord is still come on earth, because the Lord is still on earth in the body of His church.

Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

The day of the Lord is come, with the coming of the Lord in the flesh, and the day of the Lord is still come with the Lord on earth, because He does not leave nor forsake the earth, while also seated in heaven.

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The day of the Lord Jesus Christ is now come in the flesh and bones of His people on earth. He is with them in the in the flesh, and they are with Him in the Spirit, and being with Him is always as good and fresh as day one with the Lord.

For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest.

But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels.

The OT was the Lord's covenant with man from heaven. The NT is the day of the Lord's covenant with man on earth.

The day of the Lord is come on earth, and is keeping covenant with men on earth that love Him.

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

The day of the Lord is come on earth, when he was seen of men, and God is with us on earth, unseen by men, but seen within by them that love Him to come with salvation in His hands.

 

[robert derrick]

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Scripture does not say that the Lord will come again, as though He has left the earth, after coming to earth the first time.

There is no second coming of the Lord to earth, but only His first coming in the flesh, and remains on earth in flesh and bones of His church: He will appear in sight men again a second time on earth.

We wait and watch for Him to appear, but we do not wait and watch for Him to come.

The day of the Lord is with the Lord appearing twice before men, first in the flesh on earth, and again in resurrected body.

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

That babe born of the a virgin, was the same Lord Jesus Christ who will appear a second time in the air, and He is the same Lord Jesus appearing in the hearts of all them that believe and obey Him.

The day of the Lord is come on earth, and to day is still that day, and tomorrow will remain that day on earth, until the earth itself is dissolved by fire of God.

For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

 

[robert derrick]

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet.

The Lord's day on earth is come first in the flesh of Jesus Christ.

The Lord's day in on earth every day.

And he appeared in resurrected body to John on Patmos, before the Lord's day, when He appears again over all the earth, for all men to see with their own eyes.

In the day of the Lord that is come, He will appear on earth again from the air, and will be on earth for at least a thousand years afterward, until the earth is melted by fire.

He comes first from heaven to appear in the flesh before men, and having come to earth, He will appear the second time from heaven and earth: the man Christ Jesus is now in heaven with God, and on earth with His saints.

Only the unbelievers will say the day of the Lord is not come, neither is God with us on earth.

That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him.

When He appears before men again, He will appear both with the resurrected dead in Christ from heaven, and with them alive and changed from earth.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Context is a funny or peculiar thing.

As context pertains to revelations--literally the very thing that God has done with all of creation and time--Jesus has said, many things like "the kingdom of heaven is like...", and also given parables. If a parable then were regarding the greater kingdom of God, i.e. "heavenly things", the objects of which was "earthly things"--what then is the context?

Or put in this way: If a parable of timeless, eternal reality was given for revelation using times to break down the key matters of importance--which is the context, time or eternity?

I obviously don't hold to a duality of time vs. eternity, physical parable vs. spirituality and heavenly realities. This is often done in Gnosticism, but it is also done in Christianity. So really the matter is, to what extent should we go? Should we view everything as if every parable referred to a timeless eternity or a heavenly reality?

Of course not. But as the Son of God might think, everything in his mind does concern eternal realities. So he would likely often have the end in mind, rather than the present finite realities of earth.

Again, you really have to look at each parable and each instance to know whether this is eschatological or not. Jesus may, for example, be speaking largely of his 1st Coming.

Certainly, some of his parables reflected upon his death at the hands of the wicked. And this certainly does not reflect upon the universal, the infinite, the heavenly.

But point is well taken, regardless. This duality does some to play a big role in Jesus' view of things, as he looked towards the end, rather than just the small steps leading there.

My biggest concern here is that we don't draw up too large a picture at the expense of the small details. Every element today and tomorrow has its concerns. And we shouldn't overlook what we need to today and not just focus on where we hope to be.

 

[Randy Kluth]

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet.

The Lord's day on earth is come first in the flesh of Jesus Christ.

The Lord's day in on earth every day.

And he appeared in resurrected body to John on Patmos, before the Lord's day, when He appears again over all the earth, for all men to see with their own eyes.

In the day of the Lord that is come, He will appear on earth again from the air, and will be on earth for at least a thousand years afterward, until the earth is melted by fire.

He comes first from heaven to appear in the flesh before men, and having come to earth, He will appear the second time from heaven and earth: the man Christ Jesus is now in heaven with God, and on earth with His saints.

Only the unbelievers will say the day of the Lord is not come, neither is God with us on earth.

That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him.

When He appears before men again, He will appear both with the resurrected dead in Christ from heaven, and with them alive and changed from earth.

I partly agree and partly not. I do think the Day of the Lord began at Christ's 1st Coming, and continues as people get saved. We are told, however, that "night comes when no man can work." So even though it may be the Lord's Day in heaven, on earth things will be different, as a variety of Antichrists plague the earth.

There is also an eschatological Day of the Lord, described by the Prophets. The current Day of the Lord will intersect with the Eschatological Day of the Lord when the Lord returns, in my view.

 

[Enoch111]

The day of the Lord is not a single one time event, especially not waiting in the future to come.

Why are you trying to controvert Scripture? The day of the LORD is a very specific time period in the future which may or may not be limited to 24 hours. BUT IT IS A TIME OF DIVINE JUDGMENTS AND THE WRATH OF GOD against an unbelieving and wicked world.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Are your sure Randy? I've looked at the exact "day of the Lord" and it seems always to refer to the end times.

Yea, I'm sure. I studied this way back in the late 70s. ;) Reading books by George E. Ladd got me interested in learning more about the Kingdom of God, and I literally went through every verse in the Prophets to determine what items described the sins of Israel (or others), which items described judgment, and which items described restoration. The vast number of verses fall into one of these three categories.

The main focus of Bible Prophecy is the establishment of God's Eternal Kingdom with Jesus as King. It involves the recovery of all those who have sinned and yet want to be a part of that Kingdom. Along the way, God showed His interest by establishing His temporary Kingdom in Israel, knowing full well that sinful Man cannot retain it in the present age. Satan must be bound and Christ must return to do this.

So along the way we have seen the Prophets speak of the "Day of the Lord" in a preliminary sense, in which God either judged His people and others or saved them. But I do think that there is a special focus upon the eschatological Day of the Lord, since that has always been God's ultimate intention.

The following use of "the Day of the Lord" applied to God's historic judgment of Babylon in ancient times...

Isa 13.6 Wail, for the day of the Lord is near; it will come like destruction from the Almighty.

 

[ScottA]

I obviously don't hold to a duality of time vs. eternity, physical parable vs. spirituality and heavenly realities. This is often done in Gnosticism, but it is also done in Christianity. So really the matter is, to what extent should we go? Should we view everything as if every parable referred to a timeless eternity or a heavenly reality?

Of course not. But as the Son of God might think, everything in his mind does concern eternal realities. So he would likely often have the end in mind, rather than the present finite realities of earth.

Again, you really have to look at each parable and each instance to know whether this is eschatological or not. Jesus may, for example, be speaking largely of his 1st Coming.

Certainly, some of his parables reflected upon his death at the hands of the wicked. And this certainly does not reflect upon the universal, the infinite, the heavenly.

But point is well taken, regardless. This duality does some to play a big role in Jesus' view of things, as he looked towards the end, rather than just the small steps leading there.

My biggest concern here is that we don't draw up too large a picture at the expense of the small details. Every element today and tomorrow has its concerns. And we shouldn't overlook what we need to today and not just focus on where we hope to be.

Why then do all things point to Christ from Beginning to End who pointed to the Father and the kingdom?

(Rhetorical)

 

[Randy Kluth]

Why then do all things point to Christ from Beginning to End who pointed to the Father and the kingdom?

(Rhetorical)

That is a very big generalization, to say that "all things" point to Christ! And that is my main concern here, that the specifics get lost in the Big Picture.

 

[ScottA]

That is a very big generalization, to say that "all things" point to Christ! And that is my main concern here, that the specifics get lost in the Big Picture.

Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.​

 

[Davy]

Remembering what the day of the Lord is, shows when the day of the Lord comes.

Thinking of the day of the Lord only as to what happens on earth, overlooks the simple truth that the day of the Lord, is the day the Lord comes to earth.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.

How can any man say the day of the Lord on earth is not come, except we say Jesus is not Lord, or Jesus Christ is not come in the flesh?

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

The Lord has come on earth, The day of the Lord is come on earth.

The day of the Lord is not a single one time event, especially not waiting in the future to come.

The day of the Lord has it's beginning and ending, which is the first day the Lord is come on earth from heaven, and the last day the Lord is on earth, before the earth itself is melted by fire of God from heaven.

The day of the Lord on earth is come in the days of His flesh, is come in the days of our flesh, and will come in the days of His resurrected body with His saints on earth.

All the prophesies about the day of the Lord on earth will come to pass, that have yet come to pass, but that day is already come on earth, with the greatest prophecy already coming to pass: Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

That idea above is false.

So starting a new thread to push that LIE won't help you.

Jesus' 1st coming WAS NOT the "day of the Lord" timing! The "day of the Lord" will be when Jesus' RETURNS in the FUTURE and that is what is written in GOD'S WORD.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Isa 13.6 Wail, for the day of the Lord is near; it will come like destruction from the Almighty.

I saw that in my search, and it is also end time. Any more?