The Death of Jesus - Matthew 27:45-54

[ChristisGod]

True - a mix of quotes and man-made philosophy...just how your average Christian likes it!

I can be either an orthodox trinitarian or a biblical trinitarian needing none of the creeds to support the Trinity( God is Plural in Persons ) or Deity of Christ.

I can defend it from either platform.

 

[face2face]

I can be either an orthodox trinitarian or a biblical trinitarian needing none of the creeds to support the Trinity( God is Plural in Persons ) or Deity of Christ.
I can debate if from either platform.

It all started in councils Christo! In the minds of crafty men who felt the need to define the godhead when it was already adequately defined - 1 Timothy 2:5
The Apostles all knew this.

 

[ChristisGod]

It all started in councils Christo! In the minds of crafty men who felt the need to define the godhead when it was already adequately defined - 1 Timothy 2:5
The Apostles all knew this.

There are plenty of passages declaring His Deity and His humanity.

 

[face2face]

There are plenty of passages declaring His Deity and His humanity.

So you say.
This is true of the resurrected Lord...Colossians 2:9 but of course we know Who gave him that fullness

 

[Jack]

For most discernible Christians they would see your response as an unwillingness to enter the Word of God (Psalms 119:130). To explain this in brutally honest terms, it means you dont have light in you because you are only wanting to believe in doctrine which reinforces your own misconceptions. Jesus entered many a discussion with believers like you and rarely, if ever, did they repent and learn from the Lord - notably Nicodemus was a rare example. However, what about those Christians who are afraid to have a go? Jesus engaged with believers like BeyondET as they are not afraid of being found in error, like Peter who was rebuked many times throughout the Lords ministry for getting it wrong! What of those who quietly pass by without a word...happy to continue in ignorance afraid to be challenged and even more afraid to give an answer of the hope which is in them? No, the pendulum has swung but well done to BeyondET for giving it a crack!
TBC...

Jesus was SINLESS. You either agree or you don't.

 

[Jack]

That is a totally false statement. Belief in the Trinity in no way denies that actual humanity and sufferings of Christ. Jesus of Nazareth was fully God and fully sinless Man while on earth, and while He suffered, and bled and died. It was the blood of God which paid for our redemption.

This forum has been invaded by JW's! It is indeed the Blood!

 

[Enoch111]

Crucified in weakness just as you are weak in him - its the weakness Enoch which you dare not to look at. Your eyes will be opened!

As if you would know. Just another presumptuous statement from you.

 

[face2face]

As if you would know. Just another presumptuous statement from you.

2 corinthians 13:4
What was his weakness Enoch?

 

[face2face]

This forum has been invaded by JW's! It is indeed the Blood!

Don't forget the body prepared!

 

[Jack]

Don't forget the body prepared!

It's the Blood of Jesus that washes away our sins. Nothing else!

 

[face2face]

It's the Blood of Jesus that washes away our sins. Nothing else!

Interesting take on Gods work...so the body holds no meaning to you at all?

 

[Jack]

Interesting take on Gods work...so the body holds no meaning to you at all?

Wow! Are you really attacking the Blood atonement of Jesus?

 

[face2face]

Wow! Are you really attacking the Blood atonement of Jesus?

Did you miss that question?
Does the body hold no meaning for you?

 

[Jack]

Did you miss that question?
Does the body hold no meaning for you?

It's the Blood of Jesus that saves us. No other way!

 

[face2face]

It's the Blood of Jesus that saves us. No other way!

I didn't ask you what saves us - I asked if the body holds any meaning to you?

Try this...Ephesians 2:16: "And that he might reconcile both unto God in one BODY by the cross"

 

[face2face]

It's the Blood of Jesus that saves us. No other way!

So imagine you are sitting across the table with Jesus at the last supper - he goes to hand you the bread and you say "no thanks, I'm only interested in the wine".

Is that your position?

 

[Jack]

I didn't ask you what saves us - I asked if the body holds any meaning to you?

Try this...Ephesians 2:16: "And that he might reconcile both unto God in one BODY by the cross"

Well yeah. It contained the Blood of Jesus, the ONLY way of salvation!

 

[Jack]

So imagine you are sitting across the table with Jesus at the last supper - he goes to hand you the bread and you say "no thanks, I'm only interested in the wine".

Is that your position?

See #97

 

[face2face]

See #97

So the spiritual importance of the body is only that it held his blood?
Are you sure?

 

[Jack]

So the spiritual importance of the body is only that it held his blood?
Are you sure?

I think you're playing JW games.