The end of believing as we know it.

[Gottservant]

There could be a creator, I'd hope there was one. But honestly I don't know now, I really don't know. That is not due to lack of seeking, it's due to lack of credible information.

Yes, but do you get that even if there is no "God", and you get to the end of your life, you are still going to want to say something about it.

Everybody talks; in the end everybody talks about the end.

It's a way for you to exercise your conscience and keep it in check - God designed us that way, but if you don't want to believe it, that doesn't change that you have already received that choice.

I can't get rid of that choice either, I'm not telling you anything new.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

I never saw that episode.

I think it was NCIS. It was years ago but I still remember that AI scene. Creepy.

Grief Tec. What happens if you can't afford the monthly subscription to keep in touch with your A.I grandparent's?

Probably the same thing that happens to those who had themselves frozen so to be re enlivened in future when there's a cure for their terminal illness, but there's a power failure
Or,the plug is pulled because their estate can't keep up the payments.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

We are at a junction point that our beliefs and the want for believing must end. Our beliefs can not amend or fix what the facts are telling us. We can remain stubbornly fixed to our personal beliefs and continue accepting the reality that our assumptions about what's true must remain the same.

But I'm sure you've seen enough now to know that believing is getting us nowhere.

I'll stick with Jesus, believing like He does results in spending eternity with the Father.

The just shall live by faith - not by sight

You should quit being carnally minded and start being spiritually minded.

Romans 8:6
to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

What happens if you can't afford the monthly subscription to keep in touch with your A.I grandparent's?

 

[2bme]

I'll stick with Jesus, believing like He does results in spending eternity with the Father.

The just shall live by faith - not by sight

You should quit being carnally minded and start being spiritually minded.

Romans 8:6
to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.




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Take note that in another thread I made the point that the reason Christian's fault in their performance is due to them applying believing in what Jesus said to learn, know, then practice. (Belief is only first base)

 

[2bme]

Christian's are right to be sceptical of people who use science as a weapon to establish their own personal beliefs. Your enemy is not with the scientific method and understanding how the world and universe functions, but with those who possess that understanding and use it to enlarge the beliefs they have.

 

[2bme]

Yes, but do you get that even if there is no "God", and you get to the end of your life, you are still going to want to say something about it.

Everybody talks; in the end everybody talks about the end.

It's a way for you to exercise your conscience and keep it in check - God designed us that way, but if you don't want to believe it, that doesn't change that you have already received that choice.

I can't get rid of that choice either, I'm not telling you anything new.

There's one thing I do know for sure about life. No one gets out alive.

 

[2bme]

I'll stick with Jesus, believing like He does results in spending eternity with the Father.

The just shall live by faith - not by sight

You should quit being carnally minded and start being spiritually minded.

Romans 8:6
to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.




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Hey! What have you got against carnival's. We should all go to a carnival once in awhile, you know to mingle and stuff.

 

[Matthias]

There's one thing I do know for sure about life. No one gets out alive.

Jesus of Nazareth would like to have a word with you about the resurrection of the dead and the life of the age to come.

 

[2bme]

Jesus of Nazareth would like to have a word with you about the resurrection of the dead and the life of the age to come.

Jesus actually wants to have word with me? Short of reading what Jesus is saying in the New Testament (Which I've done already) I don't know any other way I'd be having him have that word with me.

 

[Matthias]

Jesus actually wants to have word with me? Short of reading what Jesus is saying in the New Testament (Which I've done already) I don't know any other way I'd be having him have that word with me.

There are three ways that could happen. One way you’ve already done. (I recommend that you continue doing that way regularly.) The second way is through prayer directed to him and the third way is to speak with someone whom he sends to speak with you as his commissioned agent / representative.

 

[soberxp]

A whole universe of cause and effect had to be created for the sake of redeeming an unremarkable percentage of life. For instance God must of created the whole dinosaur's population then destroyed them for the sake of a choice few humanoids. Is this really sensible to believe in?

God has hidden many things; we only know a fraction of them. I cannot deny any possibility, for God is truly almighty—He can make evolution true or false. He could say He not only created humans on Earth but also that extraterrestrial humans are angels, and those are merely ways to come from heaven to the material universe. Humans can hardly fully understand all the truth; the only unchanging fact is that God is real and reliable.

 

[Riven]

There are three ways that could happen. One way you’ve already done. (I recommend that you continue doing that way regularly.) The second way is through prayer directed to him and the third way is to speak with someone whom he sends to speak with you as his commissioned agent / representative.

And the fourth way is to call customer service.

 

[Matthias]

And the fourth way is to call customer service.

 

[2bme]

 

[Marilyn C]

There's one thing I do know for sure about life. No one gets out alive.

And that dear 2bme is an important fact. So....make the most of this life for if you go as you are then you`ll have eternity to think upon all the things you are missing, all the evil done in this world, all the times you rejected truth, all the pleasures that were here,...How come? You may ask. Well, your body will be dead, decayed but your soul and spirit will go on forever. They are eternal, but you won`t be able to hear, see, feel, taste, etc.

 

[2bme]

And that dear 2bme is an important fact. So....make the most of this life for if you go as you are then you`ll have eternity to think upon all the things you are missing, all the evil done in this world, all the times you rejected truth, all the pleasures that were here,...How come? You may ask. Well, your body will be dead, decayed but your soul and spirit will go on forever. They are eternal, but you won`t be able to hear, see, feel, taste, etc.

Why would a new born spirit need their old physical senses?

 

[Marilyn C]

Why would a new born spirit need their old physical senses?

Try closing your eyes and just thinking for a few hours and you`ll get some insight as to the need for physical senses.

 

[2bme]

Try closing your eyes and just thinking for a few hours and you`ll get some insight as to the need for physical senses.

There's more happening in this universe that our senses do not inform us about. So in a place after this universe how much more would we need those old limited 5 senses? Does God actually need physical eyes to see everything he created?

 

[Marilyn C]

There's more happening in this universe that our senses do not inform us about. So in a place after this universe how much more would we need those old limited 5 senses? Does God actually need physical eyes to see everything he created?

Very true. Much we do not know.

 

[2bme]

Very true. Much we do not know.

Do you think I should give up my quest to win my daughter's heart? Because sometimes I have my doubts about how much she wanted to know my side of the story, thinking I should let go completely and find a cave to live in until I die.