The end of believing as we know it.

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2bme

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I don't believe it either.
That great! Because believing constantly needs other people to validate your beliefs for you. It's why Church is so effective. Also cults. Also the iPhone group ECT.
 

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Have you noticed how people group in name brand only association's? The monolith corporation's know this and package their products with beliefs included.
 
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It's good for you is a belief tactic.
Also
It's bad for you is a belief tactic.
 

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3i/Atlas has many people believing many things.
 

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Seeing is believing? How? Once you see the thing you've seen the thing.
 

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I get the idea that if we all believed the same thing we'd all be on the same page. But that has never happened successfully. But let's assume it was possible to have the whole world believe in the same thing. Let's say that you were able to map your particular beliefs on-to every man woman and childs brain. Everyone would then be identical in thinking to you. But then ask yourself this question: Who would you be if everyone had your exact same mind?

“Let this mind be in you that was in Messiah Jesus.” - Paul
 

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“Let this mind be in you that was in Messiah Jesus.” - Paul
Let's say that Jesus was to map his exact mindset on to every human being on the planet. No-one would be anything but Jesus. Now as much as that sounds great to you and other people, think about the reality of that. Jesus the original is Jesus and everyone becomes exactly like Jesus, so they'd only be one Jesus for eternity. All of humanity would dissolve into one and only one Jesus for ever.
 

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I think that the plan of Jesus (God) is completely wasteful.(Hear me out) God created a universe and as far as we know life on this planet of mind boggling proportions. So God's plan is to just have all of this other life come into existence just for saving a hand full of human beings. Think about how wasteful that is. All of the animals alive around the world, that have ever being alive, are really just here to be discarded. Just for a chosen few human beings.
 
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Let's say that Jesus was to map his exact mindset on to every human being on the planet. No-one would be anything but Jesus. Now as much as that sounds great to you and other people, think about the reality of that. Jesus the original is Jesus and everyone becomes exactly like Jesus, so they'd only be one Jesus for eternity. All of humanity would dissolve into one and only one Jesus for ever.

Thinking like someone else doesn’t make us someone else. Thinking like Jesus would make a person Jesus-like, not Jesus himself. Such a person would retain his or her own unique individuality and personality while living harmoniously with others.
 
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I think that the plan of Jesus (God) is completely wasteful.(Hear me out) God created a universe and as far as we know life on this planet of mind boggling proportions. So God's plan is to just have all of this other life come into existence just for saving a hand full of human beings. Think about how wasteful that is. All of the animals alive around the world, that have ever being alive, are really just here to be discarded. Just for a chosen few human beings.

What makes you think there will only be a few, a handful, of human beings saved?

I anticipate the Messiah’s government will be larger than you think.
 

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I think that the plan of Jesus (God) is completely wasteful.(Hear me out) God created a universe and as far as we know life on this planet of mind boggling proportions. So God's plan is to just have all of this other life come into existence just for saving a hand full of human beings. Think about how wasteful that is. All of the animals alive around the world, that have ever being alive, are really just here to be discarded. Just for a chosen few human beings.
What's few, definition the few, 99 out of 100, is it few?
 

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What's few, definition the few, 99 out of 100, is it few?
A whole universe of cause and effect had to be created for the sake of redeeming an unremarkable percentage of life. For instance God must of created the whole dinosaur's population then destroyed them for the sake of a choice few humanoids. Is this really sensible to believe in?
 
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People hold faith.
And reality keeps chugging right along.


What is religion?
The human ego in the practice of exercing control over our reality. Thinking we must know everything that makes this life real for the individual. Including imagining a pseudo subservience to a figment of our own imagination. That we then envision as needing us to validate its superior nature that is defined by our imagination of it.
And it is all a product of the humans self-absorption and innate desire to have answers for being alive.

While Spirituality is something else.
 

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Stands for a world with peace and could go though whole universe.
And they obey the word of God.
I hope that I never born on earth....
That's not what UFO stands for. Unidentified Flying Object is a term for any object yet to be indentified. Technically a UFO could be a unidentified object that is of earthly origin. UFO doesn't necessarily mean of alien origin.
 
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[Side note]
There was an old NCIS episode years ago that featured this very thing..
A mother-in-law was giving her son-in-law advice. And she's been dead for years but she was "awakened" on a computer console when her family members needed her.
Real time responses to any questions.



Now I know why senior citizens say they're glad they're old because they don't want to see where this world is headed come to fruition.
 

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There was an old NCIS episode years ago that featured this very thing..
A mother-in-law was giving her son-in-law advice. And she's been dead for years but she was "awakened" on a computer console when her family members needed her.
Real time responses to any questions.
I never saw that episode.
Now I know why senior citizens say they're glad they're old because they don't want to see where this world is headed come to fruition.
Grief Tec. What happens if you can't afford the monthly subscription to keep in touch with your A.I grandparent's?
 
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