The error of the Pharisee

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Duckybill

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Why in God's Holy Name would I give up the assured salvation in the blood of Jesus Christ for this other gospel you're preaching when you yourself can't even live up to it? nor has anyone else? haha... no thanks man...
We have no assurance of salvation without obedience. That is a Satanic deception.
 

Robbie

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Actually the false gospel you preach and your hypocrisy when you condemn the sins of other and justify the sins of yourself is what's satanic...

O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? [sup]3[/sup] Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? [sup]4[/sup] Have you suffered so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain?
[sup]5[/sup] Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?— [sup]6[/sup] just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” [sup]7[/sup] Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. [sup]8[/sup] And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” [sup]9[/sup] So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.
The Law Brings a Curse


[sup]10[/sup] For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” [sup]11[/sup] But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”[sup][g][/sup]
[sup]13[/sup] Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”[sup][h][/sup]), [sup]14[/sup] that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
 

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You use the Bible when it pleases you.

1 John 3:10 (NKJV)
10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.

Get over yourself... you're just a hypocrite...
I'm not going to get into a name calling contest with you. Your childish name calling speaks loud and clear about you. Your fruits are showing.

Matthew 7:18-20 (NKJV)
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
 

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Well since no one has ever been perfect except Christ... outside of being covered by His blood... and you're also not perfect or without sin...

Why in God's Holy Name would I give up the assured salvation in the blood of Jesus Christ for this other gospel you're preaching when you yourself can't even live up to it? nor has anyone else? haha... no thanks man...

It's like we fell out of a plane... and we're falling towards the ground... and I have Christ as my parachute and you're like, "No man... all things re possible with God... get rid of the parachute and just flap your arms" and I'm like, "You're flapping your arms have you stopped falling yet?" and you're like, "No" hahaha...

When you become as perfect as Christ come back and talk to me and I'll listen to what you have to say.

Until then all my hope will just be in Jesus...

It's like your preaching something that you're not even living up to... what a joke dude... you can take that death and bury it...

Ever heard of the Silk road? It goes all the way from Jerusalem to China. Imagine this :)

Let's say we were... In 1093 (random date long time ago). There was a man a long time ago, who went all the way from Jerusalem and reached the innerlands of China. A long journey, filled with perils. But this man had done it, and if another followed his instructions, it could be done. He had made a way where no man had gone before. A man was travelling on this road. He was still far from the China innerlands, but had hope that he would arrive. He met a man by the side of the road, and told this man of the testimony of the one who had gone before. It was a road that was very little travelled, and so it was still difficult and dangerous. The man answered him 'how do you know? How do you know that this road does indeed lead where you are saying it does? Until you have come back and brought me the fruits of that place, and the herbs that grow there, I will not believe that man can go there by this road!'

Tell me, does the fact he had not been there yet make that place any less real, or any less possible to attain? Does it make it any less profitable?

So it is with Christ. He has gone before us and made a way. If we walk by sight, and by our own experience, we will never go with Him and follow Him. :)
 

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Ever heard of God's righteous perfection?

It's a place that's not possible to reach according to man's effort... according to mans roads... according to man's tower he tries to build up to God...

So no matter how long you walk in your own efforts on the road or climb the tower that all the self righteous religious people tell you you leads to the righteous perfection of God... you never make it.

The only road that leads to God's righteous perfection is the one that saves us by Jesus hanging on the cross... and covers our sins by His blood...

This road never sounds good to our pride because we had no part in building it... it was a gift of salvation... and when we walk on it... there's no glory for ourselves... all the glory is His...
 

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Ever heard of God's righteous perfection?

It's a place that's not possible to reach according to man's effort... according to mans roads... according to man's tower he tries to build up to God...

So no matter how long you walk in your own efforts on the road or climb the tower that all the self righteous religious people tell you you leads to the righteous perfection of God... you never make it.

The only road that leads to God's righteous perfection is the one that saves us by Jesus hanging on the cross... and covers our sins by His blood...

This road never sounds good to our pride because we had no part in building it... it was a gift of salvation... and when we walk on it... there's no glory for ourselves... all the glory is His...

Amen! And so through Christ, God has made a way! Glory be to Him! :)
 

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Yes.. not according to man's effort... according to Jesus Christ on the cross and His blood that covers us... all glory to Him forever and ever... AMEN!!!
 

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What do you mean, "May die"?

Either you're crucified with Christ and you see yourself as dead or you don't...

Are you trying to one day crucify yourself to your own glory or are you already crucified with Christ to His glory?

And if you are crucified with Christ... it's finished...
 

Prentis

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It says 'I am crucified with Christ'. Yes. That is true. :)

But it also says 'reckon yourselves dead to sin' and 'crucify (an order to presently do it) the deeds of the flesh'.

God has made it available, we must walk in it.
 

Insight

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may and might = free will
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Duckybill

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God has made it available, we must walk in it.
Exactly! Jesus did His part. Now we must do ours.

2 Corinthians 7:1 (NKJV)
1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
 

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1 Timothy 6:11 (NKJV)
11 But you, O man of God, flee these things and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, gentleness.

Agreed.

Do we persue these things all the time?

I dont...although I would like to.

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Prentis

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Exactly! Jesus did His part. Now we must do ours.

2 Corinthians 7:1 (NKJV)
1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Yes. :)

God is not partial. If a man would choose to walk in his way, he will have the reward.
 

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haha... way to take all of Christ's glory for yourself by making your righteousness about you... you know darkness disguised as light because it takes the glory that belongs to God and points it at self...
 

Robbie

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Jesus glory has no dependence on you Ducky...

Jesus glory was present before the world was...

John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

Now's where you come in with the false accusation that I promote living in sin to cover up how you have no understanding of what you're talking about...
 
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