I am not really sure about what you believe, but whatever you do believe, you apparently have no scripture to back it up.
The Gospel Plus Nothing
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Where in 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Where does it say God was in Christ making reconciliation available to the world ?
If you believe that, you believe a lie friend
In 2 Corinthians 5:19. "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself". This has ALREADY happened.
Like I said, I have no problem with that scripture, but where is your gospel, that salvation is made available ? Surely, 2 Cor 5:19 doesnt say that mess.
Who do you think Jesus died for? The Bible says that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, John 3:17. That will not save you unless you believe that Jesus died for you.
Jesus died for His Church and saved them, redeemed them from all iniquity Eph 5:25
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Titus 2:14
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
When He sanctifies that makes, causes them to believe.
Thats one of the saving benefits of Christ dying for one, it makes them into a believer.
Now show me where the gospel says salvation is made available.
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So its clear from this statement, you dont believe the death of Christ for a person saves them in and of itself, they must do something, thats works salvation, and it denies the efficacy of Christs death which is unbelief !
So its clear from this statement, you dont believe the death of Christ for a person saves them in and of itself, they must do something, thats works salvation, and it denies the efficacy of Christs death which is unbelief !
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"But as many as received him, to them gave he the power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name" John 1:12.
If you don't receive him and believe on him, you will never see heaven.
I have no problem with Jn 1:12 those who are saved, born again will receive Him because He died for them. But how can you believe on his Name when you deny that His death saved anyone, but only made saving possible. Thats what you believe.
Yes, you do have a problem with John 1:12.
The scripture says, "But as many as received him". On the day of Pentecost 8,000 Jews received him and were saved. They heard Peter's Gospel and were converted to Christ. Paul said, "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" Romans 10:17. They heard, they believed and they were saved, Acts 2:41 and acts 4:4.
No one will be saved that does not believe that Jesus atoned for their sins. You must receive the atonement, or you will perish.
Where does the scripture say the Gospel is Christ made salvation available ? Thats your gospel. Faith comes by hearing the word of God , so are you saying the word of God is " Christ made salvation available ?{
On the day of Pentecost when Peter preached, show in his sermon where he said " Christ made salvation available"
Who do you think Jesus lived and died for? Peter said, "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Acts 2:21. Jesus makes salvation available for everyone so that everyone can be saved by doing nothing more than calling on the name of the Lord.
Please show us in Peters sermon where it says, Jesus made salvation available ?
Don't you have something better to do? Do you think that God sent his only begotten Son into the world to atone for the sins of the world for nothing? John 3:16.
i just told you. You dont believe it, you didn't mention it in any of your posts.
No you didn't. All that you said is "Jesus saves sinners". I want you to tell me how Jesus saves sinners.
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