The greatest lie on earth

[Heart2Soul]

There are many things that I cannot perceive
and many times I don't even try
this being one of them.

Ahhh, well then it is safe to conclude that you cannot perceive how it is possible to believe in what you are incapable of perceiving....this is a dilemma. So by your own statement you cannot be capable of making substantial arguments against the topic because your illusions supersede your reality of reason.

 

[ScottA]

Please explain this to me.

As it is written, those who believe in Christ have passed from death to life.

 

[st3712]

Ahhh, well then it is safe to conclude that you cannot perceive how it is possible to believe in what you are incapable of perceiving....this is a dilemma. So by your own statement you cannot be capable of making substantial arguments against the topic because your illusions supersede your reality of reason.

Your perception of me here is incorrect.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Your perception of me here is incorrect.

But that is your perception of my perception of you. Can you prove my perception is incorrect?

 

[st3712]

As it is written, those who believe in Christ have passed from death to life.

I know it is written i can read the same as you.

The question is can you explain it to me.
Go for it if you understand it.
If not then just tell me that you do not understand it.

 

[ScottA]

Wait on ...what?

If you need to go back and read your own question in order to know what my answer is pertaining to...please do so.

 

[st3712]

If you need to go back and read your own question in order to know what my answer is pertaining to...please do so.

Here I will ask you the same question again
concerning your reply to what I stated.

Wait on ...what?

 

[st3712]

But that is your perception of my perception of you. Can you prove my perception is incorrect?

Your perception of my perception is incorrect.
Can you prove your perception is not incorrect?

 

[Heart2Soul]

Your perception of my perception is incorrect.
Can you prove your perception is not incorrect?

So it appears we are at an impasse, therefore we are not able to conclude anything except that what I believe or what you disbelieve is correct. Oh well, it was fun.

 

[st3712]

So it appears we are at an impasse, therefore we are not able to conclude anything except that what I believe or what you disbelieve is correct. Oh well, it was fun.

I would say
no you are incorrect, we are not at an impasse
for the Lord God knows which one of us is lying
and which one of us is telling the truth.

 

[Windmillcharge]

That humans need to believe.

Is that humans don't need to believe.

Look around the world, use the cia web site it will show you that there are no atheistic countries, tribal groups etc etc.
Atheism/agnostism are minority beliefs.
Studies on children show that they naturaly believe in the supernatural.

 

[ScottA]

I know it is written i can read the same as you.

The question is can you explain it to me.
Go for it if you understand it.
If not then just tell me that you do not understand it.

If you want to ratchet back your attitude, I can explain it. But I will not be lead around by prejudice.

In the future, if you want a more detailed answer, ask a more detailed question, elaborate.

Belief in Christ is "the way, the truth, and the life." (But you know that -- 'cause you can read too.) Belief is the moment of new birth in the spirit of God, "old things have passed, all things have been made new." That is the explanation given. What part do you not understand?

 

[st3712]

If you want to ratchet back your attitude, I can explain it. But I will not be lead around by prejudice.

In the future, if you want a more detailed answer, ask a more detailed question, elaborate.

Belief in Christ is "the way, the truth, and the live." (But you know that -- 'cause you can read too.) Belief is the moment of new birth in the spirit of God, "old things have passed, all things have been made new." That is the explanation given. What part do you not understand?

Your standards or expectations do not apply to me.
They apply to you
for it is written
whatsoever you measure out shall be measured back unto you.

 

[ScottA]

Here I will ask you the same question again
concerning your reply to what I stated.

Wait on ...what?

That is not your original question. Want to try again? Dig deeper.

 

[ScottA]

Your standards or expectations do not apply to me.
They apply to you
for it is written
whatsoever you measure out shall be measured back unto you.

Then the terms remain yours. So be it. You shall have it your way. Expect nothing more.

 

[st3712]

That is not your original question. Want to try again? Dig deeper.

It makes no difference at all to me if or if not if that is my original question.
it is a question in reply to a statement you made to me on the forum.

 

[st3712]

Then the terms remain yours. So be it. You shall have it your way. Expect nothing more.

I have already received from you more than I need.

 

[ScottA]

It makes no difference at all to me if or if not if that is my original question.
it is a question in reply to a statement you made to me on the forum.

Your original question was not to me, but to someone else. Still, there was an original question you asked and I answered it. And now you are lost. What would you like to do...go back and review your original question and my answer and continue in discussion, or drop it?

 

[st3712]

Your original question was not to me, but to someone else. Still, there was an original question you asked and I answered it. And now you are lost. What would you like to do...go back and review your original question and my answer and continue in discussion, or drop it?

If it were not to you then why did you answer it for them?

 

[ScottA]

I have already received from you more than I need.

Hahaha! I held up a mirror...and you've had enough. That's hilarious!