The Iran situation

[Riven]

Well, here we are again about to embark on yet another misadventure in this stupid desert that can never just be peaceful.

I think that President Trump should keep us out of the war. Netanyahu attacked the nation of Iran while negotiations between Iran and the US were still ongoing.

His intentions are obvious. He wishes to drag the United States into a wider conflict in the Middle East. And like clockwork, the Christian evangelicals are completely onboard for what could turn into another world war if other powers get involved, which they most likely will.

It's terribly disappointing to see this level of stupidity and ignorance. One would think you people would have learned from Afghanistan and Iraq, but no. No lessons were learned, and we're just gonna do it all again.

 

[Matthias]

Well, here we are again about to embark on yet another misadventure in this stupid desert that can never just be peaceful.

I think that President Trump should keep us out of the war. Netanyahu attacked the nation of Iran while negotiations between Iran and the US were still ongoing.

His intentions are obvious. He wishes to drag the United States into a wider conflict in the Middle East. And like clockwork, the Christian evangelicals are completely onboard for what could turn into another world war if other powers get involved, which they most likely will.

It's terribly disappointing to see this level of stupidity and ignorance. One would think you people would have learned from Afghanistan and Iraq, but no. No lessons were learned, and we're just gonna do it all again.

Are you alarmed by it?

 

[JustMe]

Well, here we are again about to embark on yet another misadventure in this stupid desert that can never just be peaceful.

I think that President Trump should keep us out of the war. Netanyahu attacked the nation of Iran while negotiations between Iran and the US were still ongoing.

His intentions are obvious. He wishes to drag the United States into a wider conflict in the Middle East. And like clockwork, the Christian evangelicals are completely onboard for what could turn into another world war if other powers get involved, which they most likely will.

It's terribly disappointing to see this level of stupidity and ignorance. One would think you people would have learned from Afghanistan and Iraq, but no. No lessons were learned, and we're just gonna do it all again.

Done by design....

 

[Riven]

Are you alarmed by it?

I'm more annoyed than anything else. This government, and a significant portion of the population, is filled with people that think nuclear Armageddon will make Jesus happy.

 

[bdavidc]

Well, here we are again about to embark on yet another misadventure in this stupid desert that can never just be peaceful.

I think that President Trump should keep us out of the war. Netanyahu attacked the nation of Iran while negotiations between Iran and the US were still ongoing.

His intentions are obvious. He wishes to drag the United States into a wider conflict in the Middle East. And like clockwork, the Christian evangelicals are completely onboard for what could turn into another world war if other powers get involved, which they most likely will.

It's terribly disappointing to see this level of stupidity and ignorance. One would think you people would have learned from Afghanistan and Iraq, but no. No lessons were learned, and we're just gonna do it all again.

You’re missing the point entirely. This isn’t about dragging America into a “misadventure,” it’s about a nation defending itself from a sworn enemy that has publicly vowed to destroy them. Netanyahu didn’t act recklessly, he acted responsibly. According to Romans 13:4, a leader bears the sword for a reason, to protect against evil. And when Iran is racing toward nuclear capability while chanting “Death to Israel,” that’s not a time for more handshakes and photo ops, that’s a time to act.

You talk like Netanyahu should’ve just sat and waited. Waited for what, exactly? For Iran to finish the bomb and launch it at Tel Aviv? No. Proverbs 22:3 says a wise man sees danger and takes action, but a fool walks right into it and pays the price. Israel has learned from history. Appeasement doesn't work. Delay gets people killed.

The U.S. can make its own decisions, and no one is forcing it into anything. But don’t pin this on “Christian evangelicals” just because we see evil for what it is and aren’t afraid to say so. Standing with Israel is not stupidity, it’s biblical (Genesis 12:3), and warning about Iran’s aggression isn’t warmongering, it’s reality.

So here’s the bottom line: when you see danger and do nothing, that’s not peacekeeping, it’s cowardice. Netanyahu did what any real leader should do, he defended his people. Evil doesn’t rest, and neither should those called to restrain it. The real ignorance would’ve been to stand down and let Iran finish the job.

 

[Matthias]

I'm more annoyed than anything else.

What good will come from that? From my perspective as a disciple of the Messiah, you should be more alarmed than anything else. This is a wake up call.

This government, and a significant portion of the population, is filled with people that think nuclear Armageddon will make Jesus happy.

They are on the wide path which leads to destruction.

 

[bdavidc]

I'm more annoyed than anything else. This government, and a significant portion of the population, is filled with people that think nuclear Armageddon will make Jesus happy.

Then you’re angry at the wrong people. No one who truly follows Jesus thinks nuclear war makes Him happy. That’s a twisted accusation. But you know what doesn’t make Jesus happy? Chanting “Death to Israel,” killing civilians, and raising children to hate Jews. God said, “I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee” (Genesis 12:3), and that hasn’t changed.

Jesus is the Prince of Peace, not the promoter of war. But He’s also righteous, and He will judge evil. When people try to wipe out the Jewish people, the very nation He came through, that’s not just political, it’s spiritual. You think Israel’s defense is the problem, but it’s the hatred toward them that’s fueling this whole mess. That hatred isn’t from Christ, it’s from hell.

The truth is, Jesus is coming back to judge the nations, and that judgment won’t be based on emotions or political spin, it will be based on righteousness (Revelation 19:11). So no, Jesus doesn’t rejoice in war, but He also doesn’t ignore evil. Maybe be more upset at those trying to destroy others, not the ones trying to survive.

 

[Riven]

You’re missing the point entirely. This isn’t about dragging America into a “misadventure,” it’s about a nation defending itself from a sworn enemy that has publicly vowed to destroy them. Netanyahu didn’t act recklessly, he acted responsibly. According to Romans 13:4, a leader bears the sword for a reason, to protect against evil. And when Iran is racing toward nuclear capability while chanting “Death to Israel,” that’s not a time for more handshakes and photo ops, that’s a time to act.

No, two things can be true at the same time. He acted responsibly by disarming Iran. We all agree on that. But at the same time, he did this with a plan to drag the US into the war. He knows full well that any air campaign alone will not defeat Iran. He knows it will require a significant ground invasion force. The IDF already has it's hands full with Gaza.

You talk like Netanyahu should’ve just sat and waited. Waited for what, exactly? For Iran to finish the bomb and launch it at Tel Aviv? No. Proverbs 22:3 says a wise man sees danger and takes action, but a fool walks right into it and pays the price. Israel has learned from history. Appeasement doesn't work. Delay gets people killed.

He should have waited until the negotiations were over before strikimg Iran. He struck them during the negotiations in a cynical and calculated attempt to put pressure on President Trump to join the war. Bibi can't win the war on his own and he knows it.

The U.S. can make its own decisions, and no one is forcing it into anything. But don’t pin this on “Christian evangelicals” just because we see evil for what it is and aren’t afraid to say so. Standing with Israel is not stupidity, it’s biblical (Genesis 12:3), and warning about Iran’s aggression isn’t warmongering, it’s reality.

No, it is stupidity, and it is their fault. Just the other day, Ted Cruz did an interview with Tucker Carlson, where he openly admitted that his staunch defense of Israel is based on biblical prophecy. I'm sorry, but for someone to say that in the 21st century, is so unbelievably stupid, I don't even know where to start. It's the sort of thing a theocratic government would say.

So here’s the bottom line: when you see danger and do nothing, that’s not peacekeeping, it’s cowardice. Netanyahu did what any real leader should do, he defended his people. Evil doesn’t rest, and neither should those called to restrain it. The real ignorance would’ve been to stand down and let Iran finish the job.

Again, the negotiations were ongoing, and he knew full well that Israel couldn't finish the job on it's own. He needs the United States to enter the war in a timely manner. No doubt the Israel lobby is putting a tremendous amount of pressure on the administration to act.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I think that President Trump should keep us out of the war

I think Trump needs to use our bunker busting bombs to destroy the nuclear facility in that mountain putting the final nail in the coffin of Iran's efforts to produce nuclear weapons once and for all.

People do not understand how the followers of islam works just like they did not understand how Adolf Hitler thought. Just like Hitler, these people has publicly said they desired to destroy Israel and the United States which is why they are working to build nuclear bombs as well as Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles so they can carry their nukes to the US mainland.

The slow among us believe we should sit by and do nothing while Iran works to build nukes and the means to delivery them anywhere in the world. That's slow which is to be expected from liberals.

I'm more annoyed than anything else. This government, and a significant portion of the population, is filled with people that think nuclear Armageddon will make Jesus happy.

Liberals, as usual, have it exactly backwards

It is the followers of islam who believe bring forth world war will result in their mahdi arriving here in the world which is their version of Jesus

You’re missing the point entirely. This isn’t about dragging America into a “misadventure,” it’s about a nation defending itself from a sworn enemy that has publicly vowed to destroy them. Netanyahu didn’t act recklessly, he acted responsibly. According to Romans 13:4, a leader bears the sword for a reason, to protect against evil. And when Iran is racing toward nuclear capability while chanting “Death to Israel,” that’s not a time for more handshakes and photo ops, that’s a time to act.

Thank you!