The Iran situation

[Big Boy Johnson]

And no declaration of war from the Congress

The President does not need to have a declaration of war to engage in self defense using the US Military as we have seen with numerous other presidents in recent memory. Sad to see people take the side of crazy islamic nutjobs trying to build nukes to take out Israel and the US. Those people are very slow and on the wrong side of eternity.

Iran will just rebuild the facilities in a year or two

It took them over 20 years just to get to the point they were at getting close to having material to make a nuke.

It's going to be a lot more than a year or two

no one really can define what war is.

Really? Iran has a long history of killing Americans and Israeli citizens and we strike back to put them down.

That's war and we do not need wait on Congress to "declare war" so we can take advantage of this opportune time to strike Iran.

God sets up rulers and takes them down (Daniel 2:21), so He put Trump in knowing Trump would support Israel and the Lord obviously wanted the Iranian threat to be removed. This has all be silky smooth so it has the Lord's blessing seeing no demonic monkee wrench could get in to mess any of this up.

A declaration of war is far more concrete and much easier to understand.

Yes and takes away the element of surprise giving the enemy time to prepare.

It's also really absurd that the United States feels it can violate another nation's sovereignty

In self defense we have the God given right to do so!

The US is in the RIGHT in this situation to protect ourselves as well as Israel

Some folk need to put their big boy britches on and learn to stand up for good and quit enabling evil.

By America's own standards, Russia did nothing wrong by invading Ukraine.

Sounds like you need to find another nation to live in.

Iran has a lot of opportunity, have to thought about moving there?

If the standards of the world were my standards, there would be no wars

Yeah if only you could lock up the devil and all his demons, but you cannot.

 

[Matthias]

I'll bet John McCain is smiling in hell.

John McCain is dead and in the grave awaiting resurrection. The dead don’t smile.

He used to sing "bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran" when he was alive.

He’s not singing anything now.

 

[TLHKAJ]

@Riven I believe this is relevant to the subject of this thread.

 

[Matthias]

Yeah if only you could lock up the devil and all his demons, but you cannot.

That’s right. I live by the standards established by the Messiah, not by theirs.

You live by their standards. If only you could lock up the devil and all his demons, but you cannot.

Which is the better way to live?

 

[Riven]

John McCain is dead and in the grave awaiting resurrection. The dead don’t smile.

I'm curious. Do you think heaven is then empty right now?

 

[Matthias]

Even the Messiah himself hasn’t locked up the devil and all of his demons. He can, and the time is coming when he will.

The Messiah’s disciples should be living the life that he models.

 

[Matthias]

I'm curious. Do you think heaven is then empty right now?

No. God, Jesus, and myriads of angels are there right now. Human beings (with the exception of Jesus) who have died are all in the grave, asleep in the dust of the earth, awaiting bodily resurrection to life.

 

[Riven]

No. God, Jesus, and myriads of angels are there right now.

But no human souls?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Racist antisemites speaking in your video! Accusing Israel of genocide and expressing such hate for Israel.

So in the OT when God instructed Israel to take out her enemies - did God SIN when He gave those instructions?
The way some are believing today, the answer would be yes. They would accuse God Almighty of sin, or murder!

He gave those instructions as self defense because if Israel did not take out their enemies, then their enemies would take Israel out.

Spiritually as Christians if we do not take out (defeat) the devils coming against us, they will eventually take us out.

In the natural, it's still the same for Israel because the demons (both spiritually and actual people) will NEVER rest until Israel is destroyed. These are the descendants of the bond woman, the followers of islam

This will never stop until Jesus Christ returns and locks the devil up, starts His 1000 Year Reign and He will rule with a hand of iron as there will still be those that will stand in opposition to the Lord and His people.

Christians that return with the Lord during this time will be in a glorified body unable to be killed and we will reign with Jesus policing the world against those that shall stand in opposition and in resistance to the Lord and His rule over this world. These people will fair very very badly.

Like it or not, the Lord is blessing the self defense of Israel and it's the followers of islam that have brought destruction upon themselves as they refuse to stand down and leave Israel alone.

Looks like we can tell who is actually being led by the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ by their support of Israel defending herself and are blessed by the Lord for doing so - verses those being led by devils who seek to support the followers of islam in their quest to destroy Israel and are cursed by the Lord for their support of the forces of darkness.

You'll know them by their fruits!

 

[Matthias]

But no human souls?

My belief / thought is Hebraic, not Hellenistic.

Human beings are souls.

There are living souls (you and I, for example) and their are dead souls (people who are deceased.)

Think about that word - deceased. What does it mean? They have ceased being what they were. What they were was alive.

It is bodily resurrection that is what will make the deceased what they formerly were again - alive.

Exhibit A. Jesus of Nazareth.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

John McCain is dead and in the grave awaiting resurrection. The dead don’t smile.

Typical SDA fake teaching

Soul sleep is false doctrine - he's awake, conscience, and aware either in hell or in Heaven had he gotten born again

You live by their standards.

I live by the standards of the Lord Jesus Christ, so you wouldn't understand with your soul sleep and all.

I'm curious. Do you think heaven is then empty right now?

He's teaching SDA fake teaching so they don't know what they think.

 

[Riven]

My belief / thought is Hebraic, not Hellenistic.

Human beings are souls.

There are living souls (you and I, for example) and their are dead souls (people who are deceased.)

Think about that word - deceased. What does it mean? They have ceased being what they were. What they were was alive.

It is bodily resurrection that is what will make the deceased what they formerly were again - alive.

What if the body doesn't exist anymore? Many people are cremated. Are you saying the soul cannot exist without the body?

 

[Matthias]

What if the body doesn't exist anymore?

The body will be reconstituted.

The only reason that it didn’t happen that way with Jesus is that he didn’t decompose. He didn’t become dust. He wasn’t buried long enough for that process (decomposition) to happen to him.

Many people are cremated.

Cremation reduces the dead to dust. Burial reduces people to dust.

Are you saying the soul cannot exist without the body?

I’m saying that a person, a soul, doesn’t exist without a body and the breath of life.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Human beings are souls.

No, human being are spirit, soul and body

1 Thessalonians 5:23
I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

God created man in His Image so God is a 3 part being and so is man.

What if the body doesn't exist anymore? Many people are cremated. Are you saying the soul cannot exist without the body?

ALL things are possible with God so when they are resurrected He will do so from their ashes.

God is all powerful so this is no hard task for The Creator.

 

[Matthias]

@Riven. If you listen to and believe what @Big Boy Johnson tells you about me you’re going to walk away with a false impression. He’s filling your mind with half-truths.

He’s doing to me what he has done to others. Compare what he says and does with what the Messiah says and does. Do the same with me.

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

Yes, it does. Primarily because now no one really can define what war is. Were these strikes an act of war? Well, I guess it depends on who you ask. A declaration of war is far more concrete and much easier to understand.

It's also really absurd that the United States feels it can violate another nation's sovereignty, while vigorously complaining about Mexico violating American sovereignty. By America's own standards, Russia did nothing wrong by invading Ukraine.

So,we should let Iran obtain nuclear weapons through their enrichment program?
Because that's their sovereign right?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

o,we should let Iran obtain nuclear weapons through their enrichment program?

That's a moot point now!

It's odd that people claiming to be Christians support the destruction of Israel

They know not what spirit they are of.

 

[Riven]

So,we should let Iran obtain nuclear weapons through their enrichment program?
Because that's their sovereign right?

No. I just think there should be a formal declaration of war if we're going down that path. When other countries do this, like Russia, we say that it's a violation of international law. Which is true.

But when we do it, or when Israel does it, the United States acts as if international laws don't exist. So it comes across as very hypocritical and unserious about upholding the rule of law on an international level.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

there should be a formal declaration of war of we're going down that path

None to worry, we are not at war with Iran.

We just went in and took out their ability to build nuclear bombs.
Trump did what other Presidents have done both democrat and republican

Now, back to our regularly schedule programming

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

But when we do it, or when Israel does it, the United States acts as if international laws don't exist. So it comes across as very hypocritical and unserious about upholding the rule of law on an international level.

Technically, self defense is not illegal so technically Russia is not necessarily doing wrong

The west was doing things in Ukraine that was a threat to Russia's national security, which is why Trump is not going to do anything to Russia so no need to worry about that.

Ukraine has no leverage so at this point they should sue for peace before they lose their entire country