The Iran situation

[Big Boy Johnson]

The military probably left with the population.

The true islamic believers haven't gone anywhere

Islam teaches that if one dies defending islam (which they claim) they go straight to Heaven and get 25 vegans

 

[JohnDB]

It doesn't seem this will be likely.
The military would have to decide to reject the govt.

Ummmm....
That's not how this usually works.
You know how people are....they wait until they get the soldiers individually alone and isolated....and then attack in hordes. Gaining weapons and munitions with each case of isolation.

And when the government no longer delivers messages, food, water and supplies to the troops....they abandon post in droves.
It's happened in numerous situations over and over again. Don't expect things to change just because it's Iran.

In this case....the military needs to stand down and dissolve....just like they did in Iraq. When it happens it will be like a cascade of dominoes.

 

[JohnDB]

The true islamic believers haven't gone anywhere

Islam teaches that if one dies defending islam (which they claim) they go straight to Heaven and get 25 vegans

But that nation that doesn't exist unless Mohammed was a liar and false prophet is still kicking their but.

This war has a LOT of implications....more than just a win or loss.

 

[Rockerduck]

The true islamic believers haven't gone anywhere

Islam teaches that if one dies defending islam (which they claim) they go straight to Heaven and get 25 vegans

I know they teach that, but I worked with some Iranians. They said too many leave the army and desert if a war starts.

 

[Riven]

The Iranian people are against this government.
But I also think that they've been oppressed for so long that they don't really know how to even protest anymore.
Fear of the government might surely also have something to do with this.
If the ayatollah fell tomorrow...they'd be very happy.

If the good do nothing...the evil flourish....
because they have NO MORAL values!

True. But it was the same situation in Iraq when we deposed Saddam Hussein. Sure, the Iraqis were happy about it. But then they became angry and began to hate us due to the collapse of the government, the economy, and everything else.

The US military is very good at defeating it's enemies. But it has a very poor track record when it comes to nation building and fighting insurgents long-term. So I'm very skeptical that this will turn out the way we think it will. I'm also very suspicious of the Israelis and their motives.

 

[GodsGrace]

The military probably left with the population.

yes.

 

[GodsGrace]

True. But it was the same situation in Iraq when we deposed Saddam Hussein. Sure, the Iraqis were happy about it. But then they became angry and began to hate us due to the collapse of the government, the economy, and everything else.

The US military is very good at defeating it's enemies. But it has a very poor track record when it comes to nation building and fighting insurgents long-term. So I'm very skeptical that this will turn out the way we think it will. I'm also very suspicious of the Israelis and their motives.

From what I hear, I think that the goal is not to change the regime in Iran.
What happened in Iraq was due to the fact that there was no plan in place for AFTER Hussein was deposed.
There was a vacuum in power and evil took over.

I think Trump knows this would be a problem.
He's also thinking a lot about bombing the bunker the Ayatollah is in due to repercussions.
I think he's trying to do what's best for the US.

War is a horror.
But it happens because some nations are evil,
just like some persons are evil and cause grief to others.

 

[Rockerduck]

Iran could agree to peace terms once the nuke plant was destroyed. No more nukes. I've heard this story through four presidents. Remember the UN inspectors?

 

[GodsGrace]

Iran could agree to peace terms once the nuke plant was destroyed. No more nukes. I've heard this story through four presidents. Remember the UN inspectors?

I remember that Obama sent a plane full of cash. Billions.
I remember that Iran wouldn't let the inspectors in.
I'm hearing that when this stops they'll just go back to making the plants and bomb again.
And who knows what we don't know??!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

But that nation that doesn't exist unless Mohammed was a liar and false prophet is still kicking their but.

This war has a LOT of implications....more than just a win or loss.

None the less, the true believers are very willing to die for their lie.

They said too many leave the army and desert if a war starts.

That's a good thing!

yes.

Not all left because someone is launching rockets from Iran.

Must be those true believers in islam.

 

[JohnDB]

None the less, the true believers are very willing to die for their lie.

Yes because they are required to defend Islam with their lives.

Christians are simply required to give a defense of what they believe and why they believe it....we don't need to defend a prophet or Jesus or God. They are more than able to defend themselves. We need them. They do not need us.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Christians are simply required to give a defense of what they believe and why they believe it....we don't need to defend a prophet or Jesus or God. They are more than able to defend themselves. We need them. They do not need us.

Yep, Jesus is a Big Boy.

The BIGGEST Boy, so Big He's the Almighty and vengeance belongs to Him.

Nobody will escape His judgement and it's a fearful thing to fall in to the hands of The Living God

No matter who comes against us, they are so small compared to the Lord and His Mighty Power.

This is one of numerous reasons why real Christians don't fear death if someone threatens to kill them for being a Christian.

Those in fear of dying are not right with the Lord and had better repent of their fear and get with Jesus' program!