The Iran situation

[Riven]

Technically, self defense is not illegal so technically Russia is not necessarily doing wrong

Yeah, you could make the case that NATO encroaching on Russia's territory, and Joe Biden's desire to admit Ukraine into NATO, were two primary drivers for the aggressive Russian response. But such theories are considered taboo in the West.

The west was doing things in Ukraine that was a threat to Russia's national security, which is why Trump is not going to do anything to Russia so no need to worry about that.

I'm not worried about Russia. Putin has his hands full with Ukraine.

Ukraine has no leverage so at this point they should sue for peace before they lose their entire country

Trump was Zelensky's lifeline and he threw it back in his face. The white house meeting was utterly bizarre. I think he legitimately believes that the European countries are going to save his country. But they can't even save themselves.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

But such theories are considered taboo in the West.

Getting a tattoo is also taboo

I'm not worried about Russia. Putin has his hands full with Ukraine.

I think it's pretty funny that "big bad Russia" cannot even take Ukraine

Thru this situation we have learned the Russia really sucks at conventional warfare.

All they can do is lob nukes at people, si I guess it's a good idea to not antagonize them too bad.

I did notice in the news that the sole Nuclear power plant in Ukraine that is being operated by Russia is not being bombed.

Trump was Zelensky's lifeline and he threw it back in his face. The white house meeting was utterly bizarre. I think he legitimately believes that the European countries are going to save his country. But they can't even save themselves.

Yep, sometimes in life people need to cut their loses and move on.

That's pretty much where Ukraine is right now.

That can't do much else seeing they don't have the resources to defeat Russia and if they did Russia could always start logging nukes at them so either way it looks like Ukraine's goose is cooked.

But they've put up a good fight, no doubt about that

My wife wanted me to go to Ukraine and volunteer then I found out about the big life insurance policy

 

[Riven]

I think it's pretty funny that "big bad Russia" cannot even take Ukraine

Thru this situation we have learned the Russia really sucks at conventional warfare.

It's not that they suck, it's just that they're not the Red Army of 1945. Plus, Ukraine is using western equipment, which is superior to what the Russians are using. Finally, it takes time to conquer an entire country. It took the Red Army several years to make it to Berlin.

All they can do is lob nukes at people, si I guess it's a good idea to not antagonize them too bad.

I think they would only use them as a last resort. Which is why I've always opposed the U.S. getting involved directly in that conflict.

I did notice in the news that the sole Nuclear power plant in Ukraine that is being operated by Russia is not being bombed.

Yes. Both armies should take care not to hit these sensitive areas.

Yep, sometimes in life people need to cut their loses and move on.

What if he can't? I mean, let's say he compromises with Russia. Then his own men turn on him and string him up as a traitor. It's not unheard of in that part of the world. It would help to explain his rather aggressive and antagonistic demeanor with Trump and Vance, two people that preferred the route of compromise.

 

[ProDeo]

Only one thing will put a permanent end to war - maranatha.

Amen.