Its the sheer hypocrisy that gets me. Religious men, yes, but even men who are in no way religious are hypocrites too. The absurdity of criticisms from the mouths of men who expect you to be some kind of "perfect" when they themselves are just as messed up as everyone they criticize. Maybe even more so...
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Its the sheer hypocrisy that gets me. Religious men, yes, but even men who are in no way religious are hypocrites too. The absurdity of criticisms from the mouths of men who expect you to be some kind of "perfect" when they themselves are just as messed up as everyone they criticize. Maybe even more so...
The more someone needs others to believe what they believe, the less they will be able to accept what other people believe.
Men have convinced me many times of something they believed, but then I found out it was bull. And yes, the more rabid they get in defending what they believe, the more apt I am to flee them. Exchange of ideas, fine. A rabid, arrogant, spittleflinging rage, toodles.
Hmmm....you got me thinking on this one...
One of our heroes is Paul. He was not surrendered to God. Then he met God on a road...so...he surrendered his whole life to God, but not before God revealed Himself to him.
This is why I kind of balk at the whole I chose to believe God exists and you choose to believe He doesn't thing. It bothers me, because I don't think men who say it are being honest. At least, it wasn't how it happened with me.
It would be very dishonest for me to say I chose to believe God existed. It did not happen. I quite suddenly could just see that He did, after 42 years of thinking He didn't. How on earth could I then say it was my choice? That would be dishonest and grossly arrogant of me.
By address the point, I'm assuming you want me to say I did not meet God as in the way I meet people on earth, with a physical handshake and seeing their form. Correct. Sorry I didn't specifically address the point. You said you assumed I did not mean I saw God as I would see a literal human, so I did not think to address it because I didn't see a question. You may have stuck a question mark in there that I missed. It is a different kind of seeing, not done with human eyes. Have I addressed what you wished me to address?
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go with that then, sbg, i have no objections ok. God does not exist nevertheless, and God will not be moved by your belief either, i dont think
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ex·ist
/iɡˈzist/
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- 1.
have objective reality or being.
"there existed no organization to cope with espionage"
synonyms: live, be alive, be living, have life, breathe, draw breath; More
- 2.
live, especially under adverse conditions.
"only a minority of people exist on unemployment benefits alone"
synonyms: survive, subsist, live, stay alive, support oneself, eke out a living, eke out an existence; More
God does not exist...? You would have to explain your thoughts on that one if I were to have any hope of understanding you.
Oh, I see you did try. Okay, you don't have to worship God. No man can force you to.
Okay, byrd, a nonexistent God spoke to Paul on the road. He heard a nonexistent voice and a nonexistent bright light blinded him. Go with that, I have no objections.
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okay, you dont have to either, not getting why the subject changed here tho wadr, what does one have to do with the other
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sbg, idc if you address it or not bro, its no problem for me, ok? But when others hear "I met God," a perception is introduced that you might not even want, is a possible point there ok
Um...you said you wouldn't worship a God that exists...? I reckon that's how the subject changed...
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cute, but as i have already made my position clear there now i am just being taken advantage of? But yes, i will not ever worship a god that has been objectively proven to "exist," a wooden god iow.Um...you said you wouldn't worship a God that exists...? I reckon that's how the subject changed...
Oh lordy here we go again. I'm taking advantage of you...? I'm taking what you say and trying to understand you. That's all. I have no nefarious purpose, dude. I'm just, as always, trying to understand you. Last time, it was you railing against me for having the hope in me that I would be with God after I die. You said that it was wrong for me to have that hope and that to have that hope is me condemning men to hell. And your railing against me having that hope in me didn't make me think to hope to be with God after I die should be given up. That hope is still in me.
And now I am wrong to worship God and am somehow taking advantage of you. Sheesh.
And Bbyrd, you saying that you have made your position clear is a bit funny. You have to know that conversation with you is a bit difficult for most of us, right? That isn't said to make fun of you in any way, but if you want others to be patient and try to understand what you are trying to convey, you have to be patient with them too. I mean, it can't be a surprise to you that people have a hard time trying to understand what you are saying, can it? I know it might be frustrating to you, I get that.
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