The Jesuit Origins of Futurism

[Dave L]

Egg on your face again.

Men's doctrines who came up with seminary terms like 'Futurism' went back in time and applied 'their' idea to early 1st century Church fathers like Irenaeus and Hippolytus, not the other way around.

The Jesuits got it from them and you swallowed it hook line and sinker.

 

[CoreIssue]

Pre trib Rapture = Margaret; futurism = Irenaeus and Hippolytus

You keep dodging this.

It doesn't matter who put it in document form. What matters is the writing of Ephraim the Syrian From 300s A.D.

 

[Davy]

The Jesuits got it from them and you swallowed it hook line and sinker.

So the Jesuits existed when Irenaeus and Hippolytus did? Demented!

 

[Dave L]

You keep dodging this.

It doesn't matter who put it in document form. What matters is the writing of Ephraim the Syrian.

Quote him, I sampled the video and didn't see what you are suggesting. Maybe post a time stamp of the area you think is important.

 

[Dave L]

So the Jesuits existed when Irenaeus and Hippolytus did? Demented!

The learned from them and used it against the protestants.

 

[CoreIssue]

And here is a text document presented in a video format of other early teachings.

 

[Dave L]

And here is a text document presented in a video format of other early teachings.

But it was Irving and Darby who imported MacDonald's hallucinations into their doctrine.

 

[CoreIssue]

 

[CoreIssue]

Quote him, I sampled the video and didn't see what you are suggesting. Maybe post a time stamp of the area you think is important.

 

[CoreIssue]

Amillennialism is creedal where it counts. The rest isn't.

Since when did creedal equal Bible?

 

[CoreIssue]

Amillennialism is the backbone of Christian eschatology.

 

[Dave L]

Since when did creedal equal Bible?

It's just what the bible says according to those who know what it says.

 

[CoreIssue]

It's just what the bible says according to those who know what it says.

 

[Dave L]

We are not saying Darby invented anything. Nor the Jesuits. Only that they picked up on it from various sources and created false doctrine from it. The Jesuits meant to deceive. If it was true they would not have used it.

 

[CoreIssue]

We are not saying Darby invented anything. Nor the Jesuits. Only that they picked up on it from various sources and created false doctrine from it. The Jesuits meant to deceive. If it was true they would not have used it.

So you're changing your tune.

 

[Dave L]

So you're changing your tune.

No, even Larkin says the Jesuits scalped their ideas from early on.

 

[CoreIssue]

No, even Larkin says the Jesuits scalped their ideas from early on.

And all sources, early and current, quote the Bible.

 

[Dave L]

And all sources, early and current, quote the Bible.

They quote a staggering amount of scripture they twist to make fit. The truth is, it is a gap theory in search of evidence which does not exist.

 

[CoreIssue]

They quote a staggering amount of scripture they twist to make fit. The truth is, it is a gap theory in search of evidence which does not exist.

I am not talking about the exacting accuracy of each source. What I'm saying is they all recognize the rapture is biblical.

 

[Dave L]

I am not talking about the exacting accuracy of each source. What I'm saying is they all recognize the rapture is biblical.

They think there are two second comings instead of one.