The Lamb slain from foundation of world

[One 2 question]

whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

In this verse, the foundation of the world applies to the Lamb slain, not to names and the book of life.

whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world,

Here you make a good point for a 'proof' text, with names and book of life being written from the foundation of the world.


This agrees with the Lord blotting out names, that were once written in His book of life. (Ex 32)(Rev 3)




Using 'at' here is not wrong, unless it is intended at the very moment. The word used always has a meaning of separation in time or distance. It can be used in relation to origin and source, such as coming from somewhere, or from such a time. The only case it is used in the gospels is when the kingdom of heaven is at hand. It's here, but not yet recieved.

What it shows is that names began being written away from or since the foundation of the word, but not at that very instance. Afterall, man wasn't created at the foundation of the world, but 6 days later.

The first name of any man written in the book of life was Adam, who was born a son of God. (Luke 3)

Since every man and woman is created in the image of God as Adam, and we are all children of God by virtue of it (Acts 17), as well as every man and woman is lighted by Christ coming into the world, then all are first written in the Lamb's book of life, conceived and born into the world.

All men, save one, have been blotted out by sinning. But some are written in again by repenting and being newly born of God.



He was slain away from the foundation, since even as all men, He came in the flesh after the world was founded by Him.

No man is come into the world, nor was the Lamb slain, at the founding of the world.

whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

In this verse, the foundation of the world applies to the Lamb slain, not to names and the book of life.

whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world,

Here you make a good point for a 'proof' text, with names and book of life being written from the foundation of the world.


This agrees with the Lord blotting out names, that were once written in His book of life. (Ex 32)(Rev 3)




Using 'at' here is not wrong, unless it is intended at the very moment. The word used always has a meaning of separation in time or distance. It can be used in relation to origin and source, such as coming from somewhere, or from such a time. The only case it is used in the gospels is when the kingdom of heaven is at hand. It's here, but not yet recieved.

What it shows is that names began being written away from or since the foundation of the word, but not at that very instance. Afterall, man wasn't created at the foundation of the world, but 6 days later.

The first name of any man written in the book of life was Adam, who was born a son of God. (Luke 3)

Since every man and woman is created in the image of God as Adam, and we are all children of God by virtue of it (Acts 17), as well as every man and woman is lighted by Christ coming into the world, then all are first written in the Lamb's book of life, conceived and born into the world.

All men, save one, have been blotted out by sinning. But some are written in again by repenting and being newly born of God.



He was slain away from the foundation, since even as all men, He came in the flesh after the world was founded by Him.

No man is come into the world, nor was the Lamb slain, at the founding of the world.

Did God only forsee that there would be a need for a Lamb of God to take away the sin of the world, the world He was about to lay the foundation of? Or was this all imagined, thought through and decided on by God as part of His master script of eternity?

 

[Ghada]

Did God only forsee that there would be a need for a Lamb of God to take away the sin of the world, the world He was about to lay the foundation of?

Yes, if any man sinned. The first one did.

Death to God passes upon any man by sinning, and payment of that debt is either separated forever from Him after the grave, or by past sinning forgiven for a new creature in Christ Jesus before the grave.

Or was this all imagined, thought through and decided on by God as part of His master script of eternity?

No. God's omniscience is by His Godhead, with God the Word watching all things coming to pass, and testified with God in the beginning.

There is no predeterminism of God, where He scripts things from His own mind to come to pass. The only thing coming to pass by 'script' is His plan of eternal new heaven and earth dwelling with man.

God knows from the beginning, only because God watches all things as they come to pass from the beginning.

From Gen 1, we see how God knows something by seeing it when it comes to pass: And God saw the light, that it was good:

However, blindness or ignorance of God in the beginning any anything coming to pass, is avoided by the mystery of the Godhead, with the Word being eyewitness and testifier to God in the beginning of all things coming to pass.

God the Word is seeing all things now come to pass, and so God in the beginning is foreseeing and knowing it perfectly, by the sure eyewitness of the Word.

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

But He is not just an objective observer reporting the things which are. to know them before they come to pass:

For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.

He is also working His will within them that love Him.

For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

And storing up wrath for them that hate Him.