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[Timtofly]

Yes, I would've thought this goes without saying. Even saying Eve and Adam had problems was not, technically, a Great Tribulation! ;)

The shortest lived Trib, that caused 6000 years of sin and death?

Adam did not even blame Eve. He blamed God for that gift.

 

[Timtofly]

He said He had not yet ascended to his Father. It nowhere says He spiritually did. Good enough for me.

Do you think Jesus physically descended into sheol?

 

[MatthewG]

Do you think Jesus physically descended into sheol?

I don't. He went there by his given soul he was born with.

Sheol was the place of disembodied spirits - there was two places Paradise and the dark shady part with prison.

 

[Timtofly]

I don't. He went there by his given soul he was born with.

Sheol was the place of disembodied spirits - there was two places Paradise and the dark shady part with prison.

Paradise is where the tree of life is. Paradise is not, nor ever was a location in sheol. Paradise was banned from those of Adam's offspring. Paradise is a physical place with physical trees, plants, and animals. Paradise is for those alive, not for souls without bodies. Jesus did not go to Paradise, because He would have had His physical body in Paradise. Jesus ascended to Paradise after the Resurrection. Ascended bodily.

Jesus called the place in sheol where souls were, Abraham's bosom.

 

[MatthewG]

I don’t really remember paradise being called garden of Eden but maybe I’m wrong on that. Anyway, thanks for the reply. Have a good day.

 

[ewq1938]

I don’t really remember paradise being called garden of Eden but maybe I’m wrong on that. Anyway, thanks for the reply. Have a good day.

Info: The garden of Eden was never called paradise nor was it a paradise but in the Eternity it is written that the tree of life will be in paradise. That's where the confusion about the original garden being Paradise comes from. The tree of life does not make a place into Paradise. Only in the Eternity is the tree of life in Paradise.

 

[Timtofly]

I don’t really remember paradise being called garden of Eden but maybe I’m wrong on that. Anyway, thanks for the reply. Have a good day.

parádeisos – an ancient Persian word meaning "enclosure, garden, park."

2 Corinthians 14:4

"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; ) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; ) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Paul equates third heaven with Paradise the word above.