The Only Problem With The Trinity

[theefaith]

God is immutable / unchangeable!

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

 

[Wrangler]

The Only Problem With The Trinity

There are only problems with the trinity.

Today, I’ve been thinking again about how Scripture explicitly and repeatedly states that Jesus sits on the right hand of God. Only possible because they are not one in the same being.

 

[Wrangler]

God is immutable / unchangeable!

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Jesus is very mutable: born, grew and died.

 

[Wrangler]

Well the Word is Jesus

Saying it does not make it true. The idea that the HS speaks to us, Jesus spoke to us but God (who is the Father alone) is incapable of speaking makes one wonder who it was that announced Jesus was his son, in which he was most pleased?

Words are an attribute of being, a WHAT not a WHO.

 

[Wrangler]

Your problem is that Jesus is BEFORE all things that were created

Well, Scripture informs us that Jesus is the first born of all creation. Like all men, Jesus was created by the Creator, the Father, who alone is God.

 

[MatthewG]

I believe though wrangler, that Jesus is know longer on the right side and God is all in all; which Jesus is transfigured into the Lord God Almighty which is simply Jesus.

Some people believe differently on this matter but that what I see. Considering I believe all enemies have been put beneath Jesus’s feet. I believe now that Jesus is the Lord God Almighty.

 

[MatthewG]

Which is just as Jesus was on earth with the spirit of God with him is now the same in heaven

 

[theefaith]

There are only problems with the trinity.

Today, I’ve been thinking again about how Scripture explicitly and repeatedly states that Jesus sits on the right hand of God. Only possible because they are not one in the same being.

not same person

 

[theefaith]

Jesus is very mutable: born, grew and died.

jesus is the word and is eternal

his human nature has a beginning and was born the word was made flesh

 

[theefaith]

Well, Scripture informs us that Jesus is the first born of all creation. Like all men, Jesus was created by the Creator, the Father, who alone is God.

the word (Jesus) is eternally begotten of the father and divine

 

[theefaith]

I believe though wrangler, that Jesus is know longer on the right side and God is all in all; which Jesus is transfigured into the Lord God Almighty which is simply Jesus.

Some people believe differently on this matter but that what I see. Considering I believe all enemies have been put beneath Jesus’s feet. I believe now that Jesus is the Lord God Almighty.

as revealed on mt. Thabor

 

[theefaith]

Is God a person or an it?

The Holy Spirit is the third person of the trinity, and is God, but is not the father.

God is a person, three persons
Having intellect and volition
Uncreated and eternal

 

[theefaith]

Jesus is very mutable: born, grew and died.

Proof He is God and man
Two natures
The divine nature is eternal and unchangeable

 

[Wrangler]

Proof He is God and man
Two natures
The divine nature is eternal and unchangeable

Appeal to dualism. Assertions are not proof.

 

[theefaith]

Appeal to dualism. Assertions are not proof.

no duelism would’ve two gods not two natures

it is bound in heaven by the authority of Christ by the holy apostles in council

Jesus divine
Has two natures one person
Is eternal
One God three persons

reject this And you reject christ

 

[Wrangler]

no duelism would’ve two gods not two natures

it is bound in heaven by the authority of Christ by the holy apostles in council

Dualism can contradict itself in any number of ways.The Holy Apostles said God was the Father alone.

 

[Taken]

MathewG ~

ONE GOD....creater and maker
* IDEA....WILL, thought, want, desire,
....called God
* WORD...SPEAKS, thought, desire, will
....called Lord Jesus
* POWER..EFFECTS, speaks, will
....called Christ almighty

The three things God desires us to Believe in....ie...ONE, Lord God Almighty

Men have those three things also.
Ideas...will
Word....express will
Power...ability, authority, muscle

Three things, ONE man, all necessary to have and accomplish a desire.

 

[Wrangler]

* WORD...SPEAKS, thought, desire, will
....called Lord Jesus

This is a trinitarian doctrine outside of Scripture. Deuteronomy 18:15-18 makes it clear that God (who alone is the Father) is perfectly capable of speaking words for himself. He said in these verses he would put his words in a man he selects among the people.

Jesus affirmed this saying God selected him, send him and he says only what God tells him to say.

 

[theefaith]

Dualism can contradict itself in any number of ways.The Holy Apostles said God was the Father alone.

where???

 

[theefaith]

MathewG ~

ONE GOD....creater and maker
* IDEA....WILL, thought, want, desire,
....called God
* WORD...SPEAKS, thought, desire, will
....called Lord Jesus
* POWER..EFFECTS, speaks, will
....called Christ almighty

The three things God desires us to Believe in....ie...ONE, Lord God Almighty

Men have those three things also.
Ideas...will
Word....express will
Power...ability, authority, muscle

Three things, ONE man, all necessary to have and accomplish a desire.

man only has intellect and will or volition