Sure. I did not say otherwise.
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Sure. I did not say otherwise.
Who said that?
Why are you directing this information to me?
God Bless,
Taken
Post # 961 DOES NOT MENTION "justified or justification"...
Post # 981
"Who said that?"
The evidence is your imagination, and NOT in any post.
Glory to God,
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Pay closer attention to what another actually says, instead of you deciding what you imagined they have said.
Glory to God,
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gadar perets
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I do not teach anything close to what the Jewish Rabbis teach. I teach what Yeshua taught. What "swine-eaters" represent is irrelevant to the issue of not eating swine's flesh.
Yes, God cares about oxen. What is your point? He cares about His children as well which is why He told us not to eat unclean flesh.
gadar perets
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You waste my time when you do not elaborate. If you disagree with my statement, then show me where I'm wrong.
Not the specific word...the concept however is definitely there. I am not stupid, and I know that it is not only in "my imagination" as you say. Apparently you are counting on the fact that there are people who will be reading what you write who are stupid and will have no reading comprehension but that what they read will slip into their subconscious mind like some sort of subliminal message.
If you are seeking to be deceptive about what you are teaching by teaching something in particular while at the same time denying that you are teaching it so that you can slip it in privily, then God the Holy Spirit knows that and will reveal it to the Son so that it can be judged in His righteousness.
Specifically I would point out these statements:
These statements put together imply that justification was through law-keeping (and not by faith) in the OT and that therefore it can be the same in the new. This is false doctrine.
You attempt to show by your statements that there is another way to be saved, the OT way: not by calling on the name of Jesus but by our obedience to the law. This is the same thing as preaching that justification through law-keeping is a valid method of salvation.
The problem with it being, that Galatians 2:16 and Romans 3:20 and a plethora of other verses teach against such a concept.
Because in the OT, they were saved by the same thing that we are saved by in the New: through faith in Jesus Christ (because Jesus Christ is God; and Abraham put his faith in God in Genesis 15:6).
If they were justified through keeping the law in the OT (and not through faith in Jesus, even calling on His name) then we can be justified through law-keeping in the NT times also.
Therefore you have subtly implied that we can be justified through keeping the law and in the next posts denied that that was what you were even teaching. Thus it is fulfilled in you what is written in 2 Peter 2:1-3. You privily bring in a damnable heresy unless someone can put a stop to it by exposing it for what it is.
These statements put together imply that justification was through law-keeping (and not by faith) in the OT and that therefore it can be the same in the new. This is false doctrine.
You attempt to show by your statements that there is another way to be saved, the OT way: not by calling on the name of Jesus but by our obedience to the law. This is the same thing as preaching that justification through law-keeping is a valid method of salvation.
The problem with it being, that Galatians 2:16 and Romans 3:20 and a plethora of other verses teach against such a concept.
Because in the OT, they were saved by the same thing that we are saved by in the New: through faith in Jesus Christ (because Jesus Christ is God; and Abraham put his faith in God in Genesis 15:6).
If they were justified through keeping the law in the OT (and not through faith in Jesus, even calling on His name) then we can be justified through law-keeping in the NT times also.
Therefore you have subtly implied that we can be justified through keeping the law and in the next posts denied that that was what you were even teaching. Thus it is fulfilled in you what is written in 2 Peter 2:1-3. You privily bring in a damnable heresy unless someone can put a stop to it by exposing it for what it is.
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I will answer the question for you: you were disagreeing with my statement that it is unscriptural to say that people are somehow saved through keeping the law: therefore to you it must be scriptural to believe that we are saved/justified through law-keeping.
However Galatians 2:16, Romans 3:20 show that it is unscriptural.
However Galatians 2:16, Romans 3:20 show that it is unscriptural.
gadar perets
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This is utter nonsense.
Why don't you hear him/her out before making such a judgment?
The preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing (1 Corinthians 1:18).
What he/she is saying is clear enough that I don't have to hear any more of what he/she has to say in order to determine the essence of what he/she is saying.
The issue isn't just about obedience. It is more than that. It is about subjecting or surrendering yourself to authority. To the appropriate authority. We must ask ourselves, whose authority am I under? Is Christ my true Lord? The Sabbath, the true Sabbath being the 7th day, is the Lord's Day. He is the Lord of the Sabbath. Any other day, or any other reasoning offered that denigrates or nullifies that day, challenges the authority of He who established it.
gadar perets
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You were not referring to the preaching of the cross which I embrace wholeheartedly. You are so judgmental it is sickening.
Yeshua is NOT the God of Abraham (Exodus 3:6; Acts 3:13). He is the Son of the God of Abraham.
Have you ever eaten Pork, it can be real nice, they say it taste like Human, I have never eaten a Human yet, but would that be a sin if you had to, or die.
A good mate of mine was eating pork for the first time he was about 24yo say, it was late at night drinking at a party out in the bush, he had not eaten all night so I caught him fanging into a bit of skin that was left over, I pointed out the eye and part of the mouth and one nostril to him that he was eating, he was that drunk that he did not care and said it taste wonderful. ha ha !
The Lord's day was actually the first day of the week, in which He was resurrected.
Jesus told his disciples whch day he was Lord of. That would make that day the Lord's Day. And it wasn't Sunday.
And any connection from the Lord's Day spoken of in revelation 1 to Sunday is only in your imagination.
Whew....all this striving against each others beliefs made me hungry! Going to go fix me some bacon and eggs and toast. 
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