The Relation of Names and Predicates.

[Thomas Kelly guessed]

People,

CHAP. XIV. ----They who wish to rightly understand the Divine Scriptures must of necessity be acquainted with the logical principles adapted to their use; without these they cannot conceive the exact meaning of the thoughts expressed, as they should do. From Volume III. of the Commentaries on Genesis.

1. "God made the two great lights, the greater light for rule of the day, and the lesser light for rule of the night; he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven, to give light upon the earth and to rule the day and the night." We must, then, inquire whether for rule of the day means the same as to rule the day, and for rule of the night the same as to rule the night, in the ordinary acceptation of the words; for Aquila preserved the parallel, making for authority the equivalent of for rule, and to have authority the equivalent of to rule. And we are told by those who carefully investigate the meaning of words, where they deal with the relation of names and predicates, that the things bearing the names previously exist, and that predicates follow the names. Prudence, for example, they say is a name with a predicate, and the predicate is to be prudent. Similarly, moderation is a name, and to be moderate is a predicate; and they say that prudence pre-exists, and that from prudence is derived the predicate to be prudent. We have made these observations, though some may think we are going beyond the intention of Scripture, because God Who made the lights makes the greater for rule of the day and the lesser for rule of the night; but when He places them in the firmament of the heaven it is no longer for rule of the day and of the night, but to rule the day and the night. The orderly and systematic arrangement of the passage, the names coming first and then the predicates, roused our suspicions that the matter was so understood by the servants of God, and all the more because Aquila, who strove to interpret most literally, has only distinguished the name from the predicate.

Parts of The Philocalia of Origen.

http://www.ccel.org/...02_text.htm#C11

 

[Thomas Kelly guessed]

test.

 

[whitestone]

God Himself opens our eyes to understand scriptures.

But I darn near fell asleep reading this over and over to see what the point was Thomas. Is there a point beyond the obvious that predicates form naturally from the Name of something?
Is it your major point to be addressed, about the greater light "ruling the day" verses "ruling over the day"?? (Or likewise the lesser light?) And is your understanding of this based upon sentence structure?? What really is your point here, I'm curious. Do you put credence in Origen's publishing? Are you a catholic or eo that you would suggest considering this topic? Do you find it interesting somehow?

Wouldn't knowing that "Jesus is the Light" make your attempt to rely on "logical predicate principals" to find out something, sort of silly and moot? Especially in light that it is explained by someone named Origen, a dead man whose ideas were left field for sure, to say it nicely.

Jesus is the SUN according to Scriptures (Mal 4:2).
He obviously IS the Ruler of the Day, He IS the Day lol. One doesn't need predicate grammar education to know these things for Christ Himself Reveals the Deep things of His Spirit of God directly into each of us His Children. That is how it works. Simple
We, His Wife, in the world of darkness, Rule and Reign with HIS SunLight shining out from within us. "Clothed with the Sun" we are. We rule the night We rule "over" the night. Whatever. It is all about saving the lost from their dark "Sun"less world, by shining the Sun of God onto them as His Wife cares for Her Children. (moon = wife i.e. Gen 37:9,10 Rev 12:1)

It is a simple book with a simple message. No grammar students neccessary

Peace

 

[Thomas Kelly guessed]

whitestone,

God Himself opens our eyes to understand scriptures.

But I darn near fell asleep reading this over and over to see what the point was Thomas. Is there a point beyond the obvious that predicates form naturally from the Name of something?
Is it your major point to be addressed, about the greater light "ruling the day" verses "ruling over the day"?? (Or likewise the lesser light?) And is your understanding of this based upon sentence structure?? What really is your point here, I'm curious. Do you put credence in Origen's publishing? Are you a catholic or eo that you would suggest considering this topic? Do you find it interesting somehow?

Wouldn't knowing that "Jesus is the Light" make your attempt to rely on "logical predicate principals" to find out something, sort of silly and moot? Especially in light that it is explained by someone named Origen, a dead man whose ideas were left field for sure, to say it nicely.

Jesus is the SUN according to Scriptures (Mal 4:2).
He obviously IS the Ruler of the Day, He IS the Day lol. One doesn't need predicate grammar education to know these things for Christ Himself Reveals the Deep things of His Spirit of God directly into each of us His Children. That is how it works. Simple
We, His Wife, in the world of darkness, Rule and Reign with HIS SunLight shining out from within us. "Clothed with the Sun" we are. We rule the night We rule "over" the night. Whatever. It is all about saving the lost from their dark "Sun"less world, by shining the Sun of God onto them as His Wife cares for Her Children. (moon = wife i.e. Gen 37:9,10 Rev 12:1)

It is a simple book with a simple message. No grammar students neccessary

Peace

To start I thought to add below part of 1769 King James Bible Introduction.

For not long after Christ, Aquila fell in hand with a new translation, and after him Theodotion, and after him Symmachus; yea, there was a fifth and a sixth edition, the authors whereof were not known. These with the Seventy made up the Hexapla, and were worthily and to great purpose compiled together by Origen. Howbeit the edition of the Seventy went away with the credit, and therefore not only was placed in the midst by Origen (for the worth and excellency thereof above the rest, as Epiphanius gathereth), but also was used by the Greek Fathers for the ground and foundation of their commentaries. Yea, Epiphanius above named doth attribute so much unto it, that he holdeth the authors thereof not only for interpreters, but also for prophets in some respect; and Justinian the Emperor, enjoining the Jews his subjects to use specially the translation of the Seventy, rendereth this reason thereof: because they were as it were enlightened with prophetical grace.

http://www.kingjames...e-Introduction/