The Restrainer

[Waiting on him]

I'm trying to follow your line of reasoning. Can you explain what prompted you to post "Then God is true"?

This will probably be the last question I ask of you in this thread, anyway.

You said you judge angels.

 

[Waiting on him]

Are all Angels human pastors?

You need to ask God.

 

[Waiting on him]

You need to ask God.

I’m just a messenger.

 

[Waiting on him]

Hebrews 11:33 KJV
[33] Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,

Behold I show you a mystery?
Greek: μυστήριον
Transliteration: mustērion
Pronunciation: moos-tay'-ree-on
Definition: From a derivative of μύω muō (to shut the mouth); a secret or mystery (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites): - mystery
To shut the mouth.
Who is the lion?

 

[tzcho2]

Deceptive nonsense. Is there any Truth in you?

 

[friend of]

You said you judge angels.

The scripture I posted says that we, Christians, will judge Angels. I believe it means what it says. I do not claim to be judging angels at this present moment in time; you, on the other hand, have claimed that you are doing so when I asked you earlier if you were presently in the business of judging Angel's. Please refer to your post #222

 

[friend of]

This is going nowhere. Sorry to hijack thread

 

[tzcho2]

This is going nowhere. Sorry to hijack thread

Hey, You didn't hijack the thread you helped to shed some biblical light and expose the false beliefs of the amillennialism that can't give a straight answer when faced with scriptures that contradict the spiritualizing of scriptures . Where's the evidence we are ruling nations? and judging angels ?? ummm.......it means "pastors"??? since when does "angels" mean "pastors"?? And the denial that the Lord Jesus will return physically, etc, etc.

 

[Waiting on him]

The scripture I posted says that we, Christians, will judge Angels. I believe it means what it says. I do not claim to be judging angels at this present moment in time; you, on the other hand, have claimed that you are doing so when I asked you earlier if you were presently in the business of judging Angel's. Please refer to your post #222

2 Timothy 3:16 KJV
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


Tecarta BibleDo you despise correction?

 

[Waiting on him]

Hey, You didn't hijack the thread you helped to shed some biblical light and expose the false beliefs of the amillennialism that can't give a straight answer when faced with scriptures that contradict the spiritualizing of scriptures . Where's the evidence we are ruling nations? and judging angels ?? ummm.......it means "pastors"??? since when does "angels" mean "pastors"?? And the denial that the Lord Jesus will return physically, etc, etc.

Greek: ἄγγελος
Transliteration: aggelos
Pronunciation: ang'-el-os
Definition: From ἀγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an angel; by implication a pastor: - angel messenger

 

[Waiting on him]

The unregenerate heart wants to read scripture, and say in their heart... wow I’m gonna be exalted above the angles of god.
Scripture is for reproof and correction.
Jesus himself manifests many times in scripture as the the angel of the Lord.

 

[tzcho2]

Greek: ἄγγελος
Transliteration: aggelos
Pronunciation: ang'-el-os
Definition: From ἀγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an angel; by implication a pastor: - angel messenger

No where does angel mean a pastor.
angel means angel. Angels were used by God as messengers . Angels are sent to give mankind messages. Pastors give messages to their congregation, but that does not mean the word angel is interchangeable with the word Pastor.

 

[friend of]

Greek: ἄγγελος
Transliteration: aggelos
Pronunciation: ang'-el-os
Definition: From ἀγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an angel; by implication a pastor: - angel messenger

That's twice you've posted this definition, so I will ask you again

Are all Angels (in scripture) merely human pastors?

Was the angel sent to guard the entrance to Eden a human pastor?

 

[tzcho2]

The unregenerate heart wants to read scripture, and say in their heart... wow I’m gonna be exalted above the angles of god.
Scripture is for reproof and correction.
Jesus himself manifests many times in scripture as the the angel of the Lord.

Why can't you answer a straight question? but you like to judge other people and toss out scripture out of context I might add , and btw, apparently you don't think the scripture is for reproof for your misconceptions & misrepresentations of Bible prophecy ?

 

[tzcho2]

The unregenerate heart wants to read scripture, and say in their heart... wow I’m gonna be exalted above the angles of god.
Scripture is for reproof and correction.
Jesus himself manifests many times in scripture as the the angel of the Lord.

You are confused, dear man. In 1 Cor Paul says the saints will be judging angels. We are not exalting ourselves. Do you not know this scripture?
1 Cor 6: ""2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!"

 

[friend of]

Before you start asking more questions I think you should really answer some of ours.

 

[Waiting on him]

Whom ever thinks they’ll be greatest in the kingdom of God is not fit to judge anything, but rather are already judged

 

[Waiting on him]

Before you start asking more questions I think you should really answer some of ours.

I don’t require an answer.

 

[tzcho2]

Whom ever thinks they’ll be greatest in the kingdom of God is not fit to judge anything, but rather are already judged

Are you speaking to Apostle Paul? saying he is not fit to judge anything?

 

[Waiting on him]

Are you speaking to Apostle Paul? saying he is not fit to judge anything?

2 Corinthians 12:11 KJV
[11] I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended of you: for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest apostles, though I be nothing.


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