The Restrainer

[friend of]

If you are looking for a date, then when was electrical current through wires or a light bulb invented?

Why does that matter? Please explain why you think it matters.

See Strong's 2919 for the word "judge" and take your pick.

You're going to have to provide a link then. Are you judging the conduct of angels at this moment in time: Yes or No? Simple straightforward question. What verdicts have you reached?

 

[Waiting on him]

I think this part of scripture is rather fascinating. What does it mean to do such a thing as judge angels? It's both mysterious and exciting. But I'd like @Earburner to tell me which angels he's been judging lately.

I judge messages everyday.

 

[tzcho2]

I judge messages everyday.

You are just evading the question. How many angels have you judged & what verdicts did you come to?

 

[Waiting on him]

You are evading the question.

Maybe you don’t like the answer

 

[Waiting on him]

Define Angel.
Greek: ἄγγελος
Transliteration: aggelos
Pronunciation: ang'-el-os
Definition: From ἀγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an angel; by implication a pastor: - angel messenger.
KJV Usage: angel (179x), messenger (7x).

 

[tzcho2]

Maybe you don’t like the answer

You did not answer him. You are purposely evading.

 

[tzcho2]

Define Angel.
Greek: ἄγγελος
Transliteration: aggelos
Pronunciation: ang'-el-os
Definition: From ἀγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an angel; by implication a pastor: - angel messenger.
KJV Usage: angel (179x), messenger (7x).

You are claiming when the bible uses the word : angels = pastors ?????

 

[Waiting on him]

You are claiming when the bible uses the word : angels = pastors ?????

God sent Paul a thorn in the flesh. The messenger of Satan, read Corinthians again with this in mind, you’ll know what the thorn was.

 

[Waiting on him]

God sent Paul a thorn in the flesh. The messenger of Satan, read Corinthians again with this in mind, you’ll know what the thorn was.

He manifests as an angel of light?

 

[farouk]

God sent Paul a thorn in the flesh. The messenger of Satan, read Corinthians again with this in mind, you’ll know what the thorn was.

Some ppl think it was poor eyesight...

 

[farouk]

Revelation 21:5 KJV
[5] And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.


Tecarta Bible

Great verse; fits in with the Alpha and Omega passage in Revelation 1.

 

[tzcho2]

God sent Paul a thorn in the flesh. The messenger of Satan, read Corinthians again with this in mind, you’ll know what the thorn was.

You continue to evade and try to squirm away from answering the question presented to you. The reason being because you know it traps you and reveals your error, otherwise, answer the question please.
How many angels have you been judging? What have been the verdicts?

 

[Waiting on him]

You continue to evade and try to squirm away from answering the question presented to you. The reason being because you know it traps you and reveals your error, otherwise, answer the question please.
How many angels have you been judging? What have been the verdicts?

I’ve answered the question. You refuse to hear my answer

 

[tzcho2]

I’ve answered the question. You refuse to hear my answer

That is disingenuous - well, actually , your claim above is a Lie.

 

[Waiting on him]

That is disingenuous - well, actually , your claim above is a Lie.

Depends on your definition of angel

 

[friend of]

Depends on your definition of angel

Okay, let's look at the verses in context then.

1 Corinthians 6:1-3
1 When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life!

It says the saints will judge the world. This verse is talking about other human beings. The next verse then reveals another group we will be responsible for judging as Christian's: Angels. Your interpretation doesn't make sense because there's no reason for Paul to change descriptive terms here if he were talking only about human beings. He uses the term "angel" as an additional party that we will also be responsible for judging.

You say you judge messages here, but we all do that, tbh.

 

[Waiting on him]

Okay, let's look at the verses in context then.

1 Corinthians 6:1-3
1 When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life!

It says the saints will judge the world. This verse is talking about other human beings. The next verse then reveals another group we will be responsible for judging as Christian's: Angels. Your interpretation that Paul is speaking about human beings in both verses doesnt make sense because there is no reason to make a distinction.

You say you judge messages here, but we all do that, tbh.

Then God is true

 

[friend of]

Then God is true

I'm trying to follow your line of reasoning. Can you explain what prompted you to post "Then God is true"?

This will probably be the last question I ask of you in this thread, anyway.

 

[Waiting on him]

Greek: ἄγγελος
Transliteration: aggelos
Pronunciation: ang'-el-os
Definition: From ἀγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an angel; by implication a pastor: - angel messenger

 

[friend of]

Are all Angels human pastors?