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I fixed the typo.Maybe you could edit that so it is understandable.
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I fixed the typo.Maybe you could edit that so it is understandable.
In other words, it can and does go both ways. Which confirms that the scriptures are spiritually discerned. Which is a relatively new idea regarding the scriptures. What was written was the main rule, until Jesus repeatedly referred to hearing what the Spirit says. Anyway, language skills now take a backseat.Do you know what Son of Man, and, Son of God import in the scriptures?
Those identities are afforded others besides Immanuel.
Fixed typo
People speak of a "sin nature", but I can't find that in my Bible.
What I do find is that our flesh has been corrupted by sin, and so until we are born again being baptized into Jesus Christ, we are spiritually dead, and are slaves to sin.
Do we have a "sin nature"? What is it? Where are we taught this in the Bible?
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That does not mean that those were not perfect human bodies at creation. They were direct creations of God, and after God had finished His creative work He declared everything to be "very good" (perfect).
Book,chapter,verse, where God tells us this please:''Adam and Eve's flesh had the 'potential' for sin already built in.''
Most believe He was and is God, but that He became a man for a brief time giving up His position to qualify Himself as a mere man to save us from sin according to the requirement of the Father.
What is very sad is that you didn't read my post.
We who are redeemed from our sins through Christ, are reborn in Jesus,washed clean by the blood of the lamb eternally. And God remembers our sins no more.
If we sin as one reborn on Christ, Christ and his sacrifice are our advocate.
It is eternal salvation!
Not conditional reprieve.
Post the book, chapter and verses where Jesus said when you sin as a Christian you must repent or lose your salvation.Oh, I well understood what you wrote. You put future repentance to Christ for future sin in the category of your "anti-Gospel" term. And that is exactly what you are trying to do also in your above words. You are preaching a NO NEED TO EVER REPENT OF SIN AGAIN false message of the devil.
I understand. You don't have a book chapter or verse that states God created Adam and Eve with a built in potential to sin.Where is YOUR NAME written in God's Word that says YOU will be saved? That's the kind of silly question you just asked me because your lack of ability to figure out that flesh can never be perfect like God.
Rom 7:14-25
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
KJV
1 Cor 6:13
13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
KJV
If you are confused about what kind of body the future resurrection is, I suggest you study 1 Corinthians 15 by Apostle Paul.
I'm hoping you can appreciate the distinction I'm making here, as some people think of a "sin nature" as some mystical "force" that impresses itself upon us, kind of a "black box" thing, whereas I think of this in terms of negative impact on our physical being that we can understand in the same sort of way as mental illness, only that it is systemic to all Adam's race, and always has the same effect.Why don't you go to Romans 5:12 and make a discovery? There is no need to worry about the exact phrase.
Neither Lucifer nor Adam had a sin nature, when they sinned.
Which is where he first sinned.Good guess, Robert,
However, lets look at the Truth.
(Lets use a BIBLE)
Jesus said.. of Lucifer..
John 8:44
"""He was a murderer FROM THE BEGINNING, and abode not in the truth, Because there is NO TRUTH IN HIM. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.""
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Notice reader..... Jesus said this of Lucifer, when He was in HEAVEN.......not after He was sent to earth.
Which is where he first sinned.
The fact that Lucifer did not abide in the truth, proves that he began in the truth.
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
It's the same with Adam and all men, who begin with being lightened by Christ coming into the world:
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Those who hold to a certain teaching one way or the other, will interpret all Scripture accordingly. Those holding to a lie, will read all Scripture with that lying veil upon their eyes, and those with the truth, will read Scripture clearly as written.
That is why it is useless to go down the road with more and more Scriptures, where one is reading with a lie in their eyes, and another is only reading what is plainly written.
Once you bypass the simple reading of these Scriptures given here, there is no going on from here.
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
Which is where he first sinned.