The Spiritual Function of the Prophets have ceased !
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the Bible does not address modern issues, of Modern Society. God speaks and addresses these issues to the saints, who then impart these words and warnings to the churches. Sounds like you worship the Bible rather than the Author of the Bible.
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. (1 Corinthians 13:2)
St. SteVen
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I agree with that as a complete statement, but would like to add that prophetic giftings, like a word of knowledge, a word of wisdom, and general spiritual discernment can play an important role in edifying and encouraging the Body of Christ. God is still speaking.
St. SteVen
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Which means...
The spiritual function of the prophets has not ceased. IMHO
(but, I suppose you meant Prophets, with a capital "P") ???? e.g. OT Prophets.
1 Corinthians 14:3 NIV
But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort.
cc: @Christophany @Jim B @Pathfinder7
And the foundation has been laid nothing new since Revelation was written
St. SteVen
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Right, I agree. But would say...
Plenty has been written, but nothing foundational, which I think is your salient point.
And even covers modern issues that arise. (as foundational truth should)
cc: @David H.
St. SteVen
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Hello, David.
I want to address your posts as someone that may be a bit more understanding of both sides of these issues.
The inspired scriptures were the RESULT in many cases of the "gift of Prophecy" as you put it.
So, in that sense prophetic scripture is a subset of Prophecy, since not ALL prophetic utterance was recorded, nor canonized.
I would add...
1 Corinthians 2:13 NIV
This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit,
explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.[a]
Or do you mean that we need prophetic utterance to address the issues that don't seem to be addressed directly in the Bible?
Like LGBTQ, mental illness, political/social, and other complex modern issues?
I want to address your posts as someone that may be a bit more understanding of both sides of these issues.
Agreed. That's a good point.
The inspired scriptures were the RESULT in many cases of the "gift of Prophecy" as you put it.
So, in that sense prophetic scripture is a subset of Prophecy, since not ALL prophetic utterance was recorded, nor canonized.
Agree.
I would add...
1 Corinthians 2:13 NIV
This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit,
explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.[a]
Could you unpack that a bit more? How does the Bible fail in this area? Not specific enough?
Or do you mean that we need prophetic utterance to address the issues that don't seem to be addressed directly in the Bible?
Like LGBTQ, mental illness, political/social, and other complex modern issues?
St. SteVen
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@Christophany
I was comparing our avatars.
You went to the water and got a fish. (a HUGE fish)
I went to the water and got a stone. - LOL
Suppose we both fought the wind and waves though. - LOL
Matthew 8:27 NIV
The men were amazed and asked,
“What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!”
I was comparing our avatars.
You went to the water and got a fish. (a HUGE fish)
I went to the water and got a stone. - LOL
Suppose we both fought the wind and waves though. - LOL
Matthew 8:27 NIV
The men were amazed and asked,
“What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!”
St. SteVen
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My avatar is a photo of me on the beach at Split Rock Lighthouse on Lake Superior.
I spied an interesting stone and wanted to examine it closer.
It was in the water where the waves were crashing.
Which pushes and pulls the rocks with each crash.
I had to run in while the wave went out, grab my stone and retreat
on the slippery wet rocks before the next wave soaked my feet. - LOL
Got it.
What's your story?
As a moral guide Scripture is sufficient even regarding modern problems, because all modern problems stem from sin in general. But with regard to things like technology and its positive and negative effects on our lives it does not address these things. For example, I am an antivaxer (Covid Vaccine) now, not because the Bible told me to, But because the Holy Ghost showed me the negative implications of the vaccine. I took a stand on this to the detriment of my own life, (Dialysis, transplant list, Got removed from list for refusing it.) Despite everyone mocking my decision. Now I have doctors telling me that I did the right thing, and the vaccine has more side effects than had natural immunity been allowed to run its course. The Bible speaks nothing of this, the Spirit does.
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