The Wrath of the Lord

[keras]

Ugh? That is your reaction to the truth of scripture?
I do NOT believe in any rapture to heaven of any people group at any time.
The Day of the Lord's wrath, a single Day is what we expect next. The glorious Day of Jesus' Return comes years later.
I have posted a scripturally correct chronology before. Marcus had a great time thinking up nasty and denigrating comments rubbishing it! If he would leave us alone, perhaps we could discuss it in a rational manner.
In the meantime, read carefully post 339 and understand what God really does plan for His people.

 

[Marcus O'Reillius]

The Day of the Lord's wrath, a single Day is what we expect next. The glorious Day of Jesus' Return comes years later.

Yeah, debunking your eschatology when you make it known is easy.

And the Redemption of our Lord happens when He Returns. Not at the end of the one 'seven' as you claim.

 

[ATP]

Ugh? That is your reaction to the truth of scripture?
I do NOT believe in any rapture to heaven of any people group at any time.
The Day of the Lord's wrath, a single Day is what we expect next. The glorious Day of Jesus' Return comes years later.
I have posted a scripturally correct chronology before. Marcus had a great time thinking up nasty and denigrating comments rubbishing it! If he would leave us alone, perhaps we could discuss it in a rational manner.
In the meantime, read carefully post 339 and understand what God really does plan for His people.

My Belief

1. Antichrist signs peace treaty with Israel to begin seven year tribulation Isa 28:15 NIV, Isa 28:18 NIV, Isa 57:8-9 NIV, Dan 9:27 NIV.
2. The first 3.5 years are birth pains, the first four seals are open along with apostasy of Jews Dan 11:36-45 NIV, Matt 24:4-7, 2 Thess 2:3 NIV, Rev 6:1-8 NIV.
3. At the middle of trib the abomination of desolation takes place Dan 9:27 NIV, Matt 24:15 NIV, 2 Thess 2:3-4 NIV.
4. Immediately after the abomination of desolation takes place the fifth seal is open and the Great Tribulation begins, man's rebellion.
5. The last 3.5 years now begins.
6. Then the Great Tribulation is cut short around the middle of the last 3.5 years Matt 24:22 NIV.
7. Immediately after the Great Tribulation ends cosmic disturbances occur before the Day of the Lord begins Isa 13:10 NIV, Isa 34:4 NIV, Joel 2:30-31 NIV, Joel 3:14-15 NIV, Matt 24:29 NIV, Mark 13:24 NIV, Luke 21:25-28 NIV, Acts 2:19-20 NIV, 2 Pet 3:10 NIV, Rev 6:12-14 NIV.
8. This is right around where the two witnesses make their appearance and prophesy for 1,260 days Mal 4:5 NIV, Rev 11:3 NIV.
9. The rapture comes at the seventh seal, after Great Tribulation and before the Day of the Lord Matt 24:30-31 NIV, 1 Thess 5:9 NIV, Rev 7:14 NIV.
10. Then begins the start of God's wrath of trumpets. The 5th trumpet will also last five months Rev 9:5 NIV.
11. After the seven years are complete the bowl judgments begin for 30 days Dan 12:11 NIV.
12. Then the 45 days begin for cleansing of Temple Dan 12:12 NIV.
13. Lastly, the 1,000 year millennium begins Rev 20:4-6 NIV.

 

[keras]

ATP, why do you start your end times sequence with the AC's treaty?
Don't you think there must be some kind of dramatic event to enable the AC to come to power?
Who is it that the AC makes this treaty with?
You use 1 ​Thess 5:9 as a rapture proof. How does 'attainment of salvation thru Jesus' mean a trip to heaven?

Marcus, I have no idea where you get your claim that I believe our redemption happens after one 'seven'.
It happens as Isaiah prophesied, soon after the Lord's Day of wrath, as His people go to live in the holy Land. Ezekiel 20:34-38 makes this clear.

 

[Marcus O'Reillius]

Any time someone says something is clear, it is blazingly apparent to me that it is anything but clear - rather it is their heart-felt belief because they believe ferverntly any fanciful notion (as in fantasy) they happen to think.

Ezekiel is written to the Jews.

• We have not been scattered so as to have to be brought together.
• We are not led into the wilderness to be shepherded around as before.
• We are not to have judgment executed upon us.
• We do not pass under His Rod.
• We are not purged because we do not rebel.
• We are not assigned a place to live on earth in the Millennium.

You are in error again.

 

[ATP]

ATP, why do you start your end times sequence with the AC's treaty?
Don't you think there must be some kind of dramatic event to enable the AC to come to power?
Who is it that the AC makes this treaty with?
You use 1 ​Thess 5:9 as a rapture proof. How does 'attainment of salvation thru Jesus' mean a trip to heaven?

Because scripture is clear a covenant of death will be formed. Dramatic event? No. The Jews will not know they signed a peace treaty with the Antichrist until mid-trib, the abomination of desolation. The AC makes treaty with Israel. Not only does 1 Thess 5:9 prove we are no longer under wrath, but we were no longer under wrath at the beginning of our salvation...Job 21:30 NIV, Isa 26:20 NIV, Matt 3:12 NIV, John 3:36 NIV, Rom 5:9 NIV, Eph 2:3 NIV, 1 Thess 1:10 NIV. Being chastised and disciplined is not wrath Heb 12:4-13 NIV, and the trumpets and bowls are God's wrath on nonbelievers.

We are not assigned a place to live on earth in the Millennium.

Wait, what? The 1,000 year reign is on earth. Jesus will land on the Mount of Olives, probably around the 45 days in Dan 12:12, Zech 14:4.

 

[keras]

The Anti-Christ will become the leader of a One World Govt. Daniel 7:23-27 gives the story.
Although certain people in positions of power have been pushing for a OWG for a long time, there is no way nations will give up their sovereignty as things are now. It will take a dramatic disaster to force them to agree to it. The Bible prophets tell what that disaster will be, 2 Peter 3:7, Rev 6:12-17, to set the stage for the establishment of a 10 region confederation. Rev 17:12-13 the ten kings will soon confer their power onto one charismatic person, the 'beast', who is the Anti-Christ.

Yes, we will not experience God's wrath, not by removal but by protection. Isaiah 43:2 The great preview is the 3 men in the furnace. Daniel 3:19-27

Don't worry about Marcus, his 6 'nots' of #345 are all wrong. He is the kind of teacher Paul warned about in 1 Timothy 1:7

 

[ATP]

Yes, we will not experience God's wrath, not by removal but by protection. Isaiah 43:2 The great preview is the 3 men in the furnace. Daniel 3:19-27

But wrath is wrath keras. The Great Multitude in Rev 7 is the church.
The first six seals work in chronological order in Matt 24 and Rev 6.
Matt 24:30-31 and 1 Thess 4:14-17 occur after the Great Trib and before the Day of the Lord.
The Day of the Lord represents God's wrath. If we are in the air we are not on the ground.

 

[ATP]

The restrainer is Michael the angel at the abomination of desolation. The word "arise" in Dan 12:1 is translated "amad" and can also mean to...

1. stand still, stop, cease moving, of moon Joshua 10:13 (J E; "" וַיִּדֹּם), sun Joshua 10:13, both, Habakkuk 3:11; of person 1 Samuel 9:27 (opposed to עָבַר), 2 Samuel 2:28 (opposed to רָדַף), עִמְדוּ עֲמֹ֫דוּ Nahum 2:9 +; stop flowing (of oil) 2 Kings 4:6; remain standing, with תַּחְתֵּינוּ Judges 7:21; 1 Samuel 14:9 etc.; of eruption in skin = remain unchanged Leviticus 13:23,28; so (without ׳ת) Leviticus 13:5,37 (all P).
2. be inactive 2 Chronicles 20:17 (opposed to לְהִלָּחֵם, + הִתְיַצְּבוּ).
3. stop, cease doing a thing 2 Kings 13:18; with מִן Genesis 29:35; Genesis 30:9 (both J), Joel 1:15.
4. tarry, delay Genesis 45:9 (E), Joshua 10:19 (J E; opposed to רָדַף), 1 Samuel 20:38 (opposed to מְהֵרָה, חוּשָׁה), +.
5. stand afar מֵרָחוֺק Exodus 20:18,21 (E), Isaiah 59:14; Psalm 38:12, ׳בְּר Psalm 10:1; ׳מִנֶּגֶד מֵר 2 Kings 2:7; stand aloof, מִנֶֹּגֶד Obadiah 11; Psalm 38:12.
6. stand (silent) Job 32:16.
7. grow flat, insipid (Gie), taste of wine Jeremiah 48:11 (figurative of Moab), or remain unchanged (so most, in that case compare 3b). — עָמְדִי Daniel 11:1b is corrupt, read probably עָמַדְתִּי, or עָמַד (מִיכָאֵל subject), join then to Daniel 10:21 and strike out Daniel 11:1a; so Bev Behrm MartiKau.

Why does Michael stop moving? So God can send them a strong delusion. It is clear that there are angelic powers over world empires and leaders and nobody is going to come to power in the land of Israel if the angel of Israel (Michael) prevents them.

Dan 12:1 NIV “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.

2 Thess 2:7-12 NIV For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

Rev 12:6-12 NIV The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days. 7 And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ. For the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down. 11 They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. 12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short."

 

[keras]

The Day of the Lord represents God's wrath. If we are in the air we are not on the ground.

If you wish to continue with believing a rapture removal, then we differ greatly. I can post 20+ scriptures saying how God will protect His people during His wrath. There are none that say He will remove them.
Please keep in mind that God originally chose a nation to be His servants and to be a light to the nations, spreading the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Ancient Israel failed to do this task, but God's original plan has not changed. Another nation, that bears fruit, Matthew 21:43, will do it. We Christians ARE that nation, don't you look forward to the fantastic fulfilment of our destiny.? We can't do it parked in heaven!

 

[Marcus O'Reillius]

I can post 20+ scriptures saying how God will protect His people during His wrath. There are none that say He will remove them.

And they would no more apply to the Church and the Elect than your errant reference citing Ezekiel 20:34-38.

The Church is not Israel in the OT.

 

[ATP]

If you wish to continue with believing a rapture removal, then we differ greatly.

Where do you believe the clouds are located keras, lol. This is so silly. You obviously deny the Word of God, but the question is why??

1. coming on the clouds of heaven Matt 24:30 NIV.
2. will come down from heaven 1 Thess 4:16 NIV.
3. in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air 1 Thess 4:17 NIV.

Matt 24:30-31 NIV Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

1 Thess 4:16-17 NIV For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

 

[keras]

Where do you believe the clouds are located keras, lol. This is so silly. You obviously deny the Word of God, but the question is why??

1. coming on the clouds of heaven Matt 24:30 NIV.
2. will come down from heaven 1 Thess 4:16 NIV.
3. in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air 1 Thess 4:17 NIV.

Matt 24:30-31 NIV Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

1 Thess 4:16-17 NIV For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

All these quotes refer to the Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign. At that time there will be a meeting with Him, this may incorporate the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, but then all come to earth, where He will be forever. Not even a hint of people going to live in heaven.

Marcus says: the Church is not Israel in the OT. Funny that! Wonder why? Perhaps you could give us a description of who actually is a Church member, are they all 'elect'?
What about the apostate, atheistic and arrogant Jews in Israel? Will God forgive all of them?

 

[Marcus O'Reillius]

All these quotes refer to the Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign. At that time there will be a meeting with Him, this may incorporate the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, but then all come to earth, where He will be forever. Not even a hint of people going to live in heaven.

This is idiotic and you're just plain wrong.

The sun/moon/star event which precedes the Day of the Lord in Mt 24:29 is replicated with the sixth Seal. Following that - Jesus arrives on the clouds to gather the Elect. He does not pluck them out of the field, only to set them back down in the field. The result of that gathering of the Elect is seen in the Great Multitude, having come out of the Great Tribulation - which Jesus had already delineated in the Olivet Discourse as happening before the sun/moon/star event. We can identify them the Great Multitude as the Elect because: "they have washed their robes clean in the blood of the Lamb". That fulfills every requirement of the Church.

So you say there is no hint, but it's much more likely that you can't take a hint. We know this because if Isaiah 30:26 says it happens on the day when the Lord heals His people, you misconstrue it utterly and say He uses it to kill the people on the Day of the Lord. So even when it is spelled out in plain English, you miss it entirely.

Marcus says: the Church is not Israel in the OT. Funny that! Wonder why? Perhaps you could give us a description of who actually is a Church member, are they all 'elect'?
What about the apostate, atheistic and arrogant Jews in Israel? Will God forgive all of them?

All of Israel will be saved - that is what Paul said. Now to define terms, Paul notes the schism between Israel, his people, and the Gentiles of his church. This is even after saying that not all of Israel is Israel.

Israel - are the Jews, the natural born of Jacob and his sons. All - is not as we use it as 100%, but as they use it being all that is applicable, a more qualified term. Thus those who will be refined constitute all of Israel.

The Jews who do not believe in Christ Jesus will have a terrible price to pay in the time of Jacob's Trouble. For the them, the Day of the Lord is a terrible Day. It is to them that all the punishment falls so that they are drawn through the fire so as to be refined - which leads to the worthy and fortunate among them to enter into God's peaceful millennium.

The OT prophecy largely concerns natural born Israel. There are some vague references to the Church, but by and large, people are generally correct in saying that the Church is a mystery in OT Prophecy. OT prophecy is to natural Israel, and end-time prophecy is negative. And it is written to those who would read it, the Jews. They are to fear the coming of the Lord because they don't believe and it is because of that unbelief, because of their unfaithfulness to the Lord, that they are put through the wringer.

NT end-time prophecy concerning the Day of the Lord is positive. It is when we are snatched up, gathered up, and receive our inheritance. It is when our redemption draws near. Paul talks about this dichotomy of outcome between Christian and everyone else by using the example of a Roman victory procession. To the victors, the smell of incense was sweet; to the captives in the rear of the procession, it was as the smell of death.

Your blanket interpretation of every instance where OT prophecy is written to natural born Israel as Church leads you to misappropriate their verses to us and you teach in error.
The difference between the Woman Israel and her offspring - us, the Church - is found in Revelation 12:17

Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring —those who keep God's commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

When the Jews in Judea flee at the midpoint invasion with its attendant erection of the abomination in the Temple, God hides them and shelters them.
Satan can't get them all, and he hates that.
So his anger is turned against us who do believe in Jesus...
And the result is the Great Tribulation.

 

[ATP]

All these quotes refer to the Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign. At that time there will be a meeting with Him, this may incorporate the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, but then all come to earth, where He will be forever. Not even a hint of people going to live in heaven.

That's incorrect. You are putting the sixth seal after trumpets and bowls.

Remember what we said? Matt 24 and Rev 6 are in chronological order...

1st Seal - Matt 24:4-5 NIV, Rev 6:1-2 NIV
2nd Seal - Matt 24:6 NIV, Rev 6:3-4 NIV
3rd Seal - Matt 24:7 NIV, Rev 6:5-6 NIV
4th Seal - Matt 24:6-7 NIV, Rev 6:7-8 NIV
5th Seal - Matt 24:9 NIV, Rev 6:9-11 NIV
6th Seal - Matt 24:29 NIV, Rev 6:12-14 NIV

Not even a hint? You sure about that....

Matt 24:30-31 NIV Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

1 Thess 4:16-17 NIV For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

The sixth seal opens before the Day of the Lord begins. The heavens will roll up like a scroll...

Isa 34:4 NIV All the stars in the sky will be dissolved and the heavens rolled up like a scroll; all the starry host will fall like withered leaves from the vine, like shriveled figs from the fig tree.

Isa 34:8 KJV For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.

Joel 2:30-31 NIV I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 31The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

Rev 6:12-14 NIV I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

 

[ATP]

We can identify them the Great Multitude as the Elect because: "they have washed their robes clean in the blood of the Lamb". That fulfills every requirement of the Church.

Correct.

The 5th Seal Martyr's Rev 6:9-11 NIV vs. The Great Multitude Rev 7:9-17 NIV

These two groups are not the same people. The Great Multitude are the raptured church from all nations Rev 7:9 NIV. The rapture comes after the Great Tribulation and before the Day of the Lord Matt 24:29 NIV, 1 Thess 5:9 NIV, Rev 7:14 NIV, and nowhere does it say in Rev 7:9-17 NIV that the Great Multitude have been martyred.

1. Rev 6:9 NIV are specifically martyr's. Rev 7:9 NIV says they are from every nation.
2. Rev 6:9-10 NIV martyr's are under the altar asking God to avenge their blood. Rev 7:10 NIV great multitude are before the throne proclaiming salvation to God.
3. Rev 6:9 NIV martyr's have souls. Rev 7:9 NIV great multitude have bodies.
4. Rev 6:9 NIV martyr's are known as being slain for the Word of God. Rev 7:13 NIV great multitude are not recognized.

 

[keras]

The difference between the Woman Israel and her offspring - us, the Church - is found in Revelation 12:17

Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring —those who keep God's commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus. Quote Marcus.

This verse does show a separation between 2 groups of people. However I do not see it as Israel, [the Jews] taken to safety and the Church, waged war against by Satan, because in Daniel 11:32 these two groups are mentioned, as: 1/ those who remain faithful to their God. 2/ those ready to violate the Covenant.
Also seen in Zechariah 14:2, half of the city go into exile, [place of safety] the others stay and face the Great Tribulation.
So they both constitute the holy people, Daniel 7:27 who will be in the power of the AC for 3.5 years. Group 1 will agree to this peace treaty and be punished, Group 2 will refuse it and be kept safe until they are gathered at the Return. Matthew 24:31.
There is only one people of God, be they true descendants of Jacob or grafted in, and they all go to live in all of the Holy Land. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?


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[keras]

That's incorrect. You are putting the sixth seal after trumpets and bowls.

Remember what we said? Matt 24 and Rev 6 are in chronological order...

1st Seal - Matt 24:4-5 NIV, Rev 6:1-2 NIV
2nd Seal - Matt 24:6 NIV, Rev 6:3-4 NIV
3rd Seal - Matt 24:7 NIV, Rev 6:5-6 NIV
4th Seal - Matt 24:6-7 NIV, Rev 6:7-8 NIV
5th Seal - Matt 24:9 NIV, Rev 6:9-11 NIV
6th Seal - Matt 24:29 NIV, Rev 6:12-14 NIV

Not even a hint? You sure about that.... Quote ATP

Nowhere do I say the Sixth Seal is after the Trumpets and Bowls. The Seals, Trumpets and Bowls are in their correct sequence and the Sixth Seal is next to happen.
I agree with your list above. Matthew 24:21-22 also applies to the Sixth Seal. Verse 21 is paralleled in Joel 2:2 and verse 22 cannot apply to the GT, as we are given several specific times for that and the Lord will 'cut short' or divert away, this massive CME He will send, or no living thing would survive.

Yes, I'm sure there is no rapture to heaven for the Lord's people. All the prophets tell of God's plan to have His people living in His holy Land, read Ezekiel 34:11-31 and look forward to the great Day when we fulfil our destiny.

 

[Marcus O'Reillius]

However I do not see it as Israel, [the Jews] taken to safety and the Church, waged war against by Satan, because​

I really don't care how you see it because we've already seen your eyesight isn't that good.

The woman Israel in Revelation 12:1 hearkens back to OT imagery John knew: Gen 37:9-11. She represents Israel and she is the one who bore the Savior in Rev 12:5.

Rev 12:1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.

Gen 37:9 Then he had another dream, and he told it to his brothers. "Listen," he said, "I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me."
10 When he told his father as well as his brothers, his father rebuked him and said, "What is this dream you had? Will your mother and I and your brothers actually come and bow down to the ground before you?" 11 His brothers were jealous of him, but his father kept the matter in mind.

 

[keras]

[SIZE=11pt]Ezekiel 7:1-9[/SIZE] This is what the Lord says about the Land of Israel: Disaster is coming to all the earth and now the end is upon you as well. I will send My wrath to judge everyone according to their ways and deeds. Doom is coming to all who live in the holy Land. I will have no pity, nor spare you for I shall bring you to account for your disgusting conduct and abominable practices.
[SIZE=11pt] The time has come, the Day is near - a Day of panic and not rejoicing. Very soon, I will pour out My fury and spend My anger. All will face judgement.[/SIZE] Everyone who refuses to acknowledge Me and those whose sinful practices are an abomination, will suffer the consequences.
[SIZE=11pt]Ezekiel 7:10-19 [/SIZE]Here is the Day! Doom is approaching! Violence has bloomed and grown into the full flower of wickedness. It bursts upon them and nothing is left of those godless people, all they worked for will be gone. The appointed time has come. The Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath has arrived, it will affect everyone because of the many sins of the people who kept on with their godless ways. The trumpet of war sounds, but no one goes to war, for the wrath of God will fall upon them all.
[SIZE=11pt] The great sword of punishment appears:[/SIZE] all will be terrified, hands will hang limp and knees will be wet with urine. Idols and money cannot save anyone on the terrible Day of the Lord’s fiery anger. Treat your gold and silver like something unclean and throw it away with your detestable idols, be ashamed of yourself and repent in sackcloth and ashes.
[SIZE=11pt] Those in open country will die and in the cities plague and famine will kill them.[/SIZE] If any manage to escape to shelter, there the Lord will kill them, each for his own iniquity. [SIZE=11pt]Ref: REB, CJB, NIV. Some verses abridged and paraphrased.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]The Lord will send His wrath, His great sword of punishment will appear in the sky[/SIZE][SIZE=medium].[/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]Nahum 1:6, Isaiah 66:16, Malachi 4:1 The Lord Himself will not be visible, but His punishment will be seen before it arrives on earth. Psalm 18:7-15, Isaiah 34:1-5[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]A Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented magnitude will be blasted out from the sun, Isaiah 30:26, 2 Peter 3:10, first the bright flash, then the sun will be darkened and the moon will glow red, Joel 2:31, Acts 2:20, then everyone will be aware of its imminent arrival. All will know that within hours, [/SIZE][SIZE=medium]their doom will arrive and will be so terrified they will wet their pants[/SIZE][SIZE=medium]. Isaiah 13:6-8, Ezekiel 21:7, Luke 21:26[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Violence will blossom into full flower:[/SIZE][SIZE=medium] the enemies of Israel commence their attack with rockets and nuclear missiles. Psalm 83:1-8, Psalm 7:12-16, Micah 4:11[/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]But there will be no war, for the wrath of the Lord will fall upon both attackers and defenders. Doom will come upon all who live in the holy Land. [/SIZE][SIZE=medium]Jeremiah 3:10[/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]The holy Land: all that area given to Abraham – from the Nile to the Euphrates. Genesis 15:18[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]The holy Land will be virtually depopulated, even [/SIZE][SIZE=medium]those who manage to find shelter[/SIZE][SIZE=medium] from the extreme heat of this CME, will be killed by the storms, earthquakes and tsunamis of that Day. Ezekiel 30:1-5, Amos 9:1-4, Rev. 6:12-17[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]A Jewish remnant will survive in Jerusalem. Isaiah 31:5, Zephaniah 1:18, Zech. 13:7-9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Riches and manmade things of worship are useless[/SIZE][SIZE=medium]. Isaiah 2:20, Rev 3:17[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Zechariah 3:9-10[/SIZE][SIZE=medium] In a single Day, the Lord will wipe out the offences and apostasy of the holy Land. When that time comes, says God Almighty, you are to invite one another to come and enjoy the fruits of your vines and fig trees.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]The Lord’s righteous people: gathered and settled in a fruitful Land, living in peace and security, at last how He intended them to be and ‘[/SIZE][SIZE=medium]a light to the nations’[/SIZE][SIZE=medium]. Isaiah 62:1-5[/SIZE]


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