There Are No People In Heaven / The Kingdom.

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It’s only assumed there is someone else, saying this.
The assumption arises in spite of what’s being said.

There are no people in heaven.
John saw them and reported it.
Hard to believe you never saw that.
Plus paradise is depicted, according to Jesus ,with all the patriarchs under the earth, adjacent to hell.
Jesus took paradise (people) to heaven after he was raised from the dead.
You need a tiny bit of investigation
 
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It's strange, while common. Strange that Christians cannot get their heads around a concept clearly taught-- this idea of the kingdom of God being a realm within us, and also the idea that God dwells in us-- that we are essentially His body. His hands and feet and that He moves in and through us.

Yet common, in that it's almost universally rejected as an idea. Christians prefer to think of heaven as being 'somewhere else.' Somewhere 'up there' above the clouds, or out in space, where God and everybody has "body" and sits on thrones or lives in mansions-- a true gated community.

Sigh.
Jesus placed heaven"up".
Looked up when he prayed.
Please test your theories.
 
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So you are saying Jesus is a liar?

That's blasphemy! I'm done with you!
No - you said that. Obviously, right? It’s right here to see for yourself.
You are speaking blasphemy
The father of lies is who?
How can you type such words, see them, and yet still believe it’s not what you’re saying?

There are no people in heaven.
 

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John saw them and reported it.
Hard to believe you never saw that.
Plus paradise is depicted, according to Jesus ,with all the patriarchs under the earth, adjacent to hell.
Jesus took paradise (people) to heaven after he was raised from the dead.
You need a tiny bit of investigation
Jesus placed heaven"up".
Looked up when he prayed.
Please test your theories.

No theory is being referred to.

This is heaven.

There’s no people here.
 

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No theory is being referred to.

This is heaven.

There’s no people here.
Where is Jesus seated?
Where was Jesus at Stevens stoning.?
Where was Paul taken up to?
Where was John taken up to?
People are placed IN Heaven, in revelation.
Paradise had PEOPLE in it.
Jesus took paradise TO HEAVEN.
STOP LYING
 
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Those are my words, not Scriptural QUOTES.
Study of multiple Scriptures…
REVEAL…
* All souls belong to God.
* The Life IN a soul belongs to God.
* A mans Life is His Blood.
* A Living man with a SOUL IN HIM is a Person.
* A dead man, void of his soul, is no longer called a Person, (rather called…the departed, a cadaver, the passed away, the deceased, etc.)
* A Living SOUL, departs out of a Dead Body.
** IF a LIVING SOUL is returned to the Dead body…the body resumes LIVING..
* ALL Bodies have a set time (according to Gods Order and WAY) to be resurrected.
* ALL Bodies SHALL be risen up.
* ALL Living souls SHALL be returned to their Bodys.
* ALL bodies, SHALL “SEE” the “Son of man”, (sitting on a White Cloud) He in the same BODY (God prepared and 2,000+ years ago Sent to Earth…thus He will APPEAR “AS” a man.
* ALL will “SEE”…thus (as is mans nature to believe what he SEES….and thus ALL WILL Believe HE IS THE Son of God, and ALL SHALL bow down IN Worship unto Him.
(Fulfilling Prophecy…ALL will believe and bow down to Him.)
* Thereafter….Judgments…SEPARATIONS of the DIVIDED …(who were with and without Him in their NATURAL (BLOOD) Lives.)
* Persons during their natural lives (body & soul) who rejected the Lord God…and bodily died having rejected the Lord God…are JUDGED.
* After Judgement (according to the Evidence In Gods Record Books)…
* They Who Rejected the Lord God…the Life in their soul….returns to God…and their Body and Soul destroyed and forgotten.

If you have read / study you should know or be able to find the clues in Scripture of these accounts.
If there is a particular POINT…as highlighted (*)…you can not find…copy, paste, ask me…

Glory to God,
Taken

That's a good summation of how I learned it. You might have forgot one or two, lol. Like, when Jesus returns, he brings the saints with Him...That's a big one. How could He bring the saints with Him if they were not in Heaven with Him to start with?

The Saints ehich have died in Christ, it was their body that died. Their soul & spirit return to God without their dust body but with their consciousness!
I am not my body. That's just how other people know me, lol. I am inside this body and after it dies, "I" (my consciousness, personality, mind/will/emotions that are in my soul) go to God. Without a physical body but along with mind/will/emotions comes self. Me.

WHen He returns (for the rapture), he brings the saints with Him who have died in Christ (absent from the body present with the Lord) and they get to rejoin with their dead body's and instantly tranformed into our new spiritual body.

Or so it seems to me.
 
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Where is Jesus seated?
Where was Jesus at Stevens stoning.?
Where was Paul taken up to?
Where was John taken up to?
People are placed IN Heaven, in revelation.
Paradise had PEOPLE in it.
Jesus took paradise TO HEAVEN.
STOP LYING
The Bible does not say “there are people in heaven”, because the Bible was not written in suppression of emotion(s).
 

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The belief in time is easy to dispel:
Go to a past, future, or other time.
Come back to the present.
Tell us how it was.
Simple.

Do you remember tomorrow? We can only walk forward in time but not see forward in time. We can see in the past, but we cant go there. Kinda weird.
 
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The Bible does not say “there are people in heaven”, because the Bible was not written in suppression of emotion(s).
Also Does not say the donkey had hooves Jesus was riding on.
So we can also conclude the animal had none
 
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Do you remember tomorrow? We can only walk forward in time but not see forward in time. We can see in the past, but we cant go there. Kinda weird.
The truth of your own (so to speak) direct experience is far, far more strange.

In direct experience, there is no ‘rememberer’. Memories simply appear, just as any other thought(s).

Time is never perceived (seen or heard), and arises only as thoughts… and perhaps an assumption time is actually seen.
 

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Who are you really talking about?

This Is Heaven.
There are no people in heaven.
And this is in accordance with the Bible.

Within you”.
I already showed you people in heaven.
Like I said, your theory makes zero sense
 
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I already showed you people in heaven.
Like I said, your theory makes zero sense
There is no theory being referred to here.

THIS is Being referred to.

That there are people in heaven is a theory.
This theory is not supported by the Bible.
 

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Also Does not say the donkey had hooves Jesus was riding on.
So we can also conclude the animal had none
Or of course, don’t add & come to any conclusions.
Just stick with what it says, and contemplate more deeply.
Introspect.
 

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That's a good summation of how I learned it. You might have forgot one or two, lol. Like, when Jesus returns, he brings the saints with Him...That's a big one. How could He bring the saints with Him if they were not in Heaven with Him to start with?

The Saints ehich have died in Christ, it was their body that died. Their soul & spirit return to God without their dust body but with their consciousness!
I am not my body. That's just how other people know me, lol. I am inside this body and after it dies, "I" (my consciousness, personality, mind/will/emotions that are in my soul) go to God. Without a physical body but along with mind/will/emotions comes self. Me.

WHen He returns (for the rapture), he brings the saints with Him who have died in Christ (absent from the body present with the Lord) and they get to rejoin with their dead body's and instantly tranformed into our new spiritual body.

Or so it seems to me.

Didn’t forget…yes agree His Saints are with Him.

If I go into too much detail…whine, whine…it too long.
If I do not include every step…then it is confusing to Some…


God Bless you,
Taken
 
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