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Matthew 24:33
33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near--at the doors!
Amen Jesus!
Actually I think personal insults are against the rules here.
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Will you accept the Mark?
Matthew 24:33
33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near--at the doors!
Amen Jesus!
Actually I think personal insults are against the rules here.
Was Jesus talking about our generation here? If I say something will happen in this generation, would you think I actually meant in a generation 2000 plus years in the future?
Yes.
Luke 21:24 Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
1967!
You're not Jesus.
Those gentiles were Rome. And this happened in 70 AD.
20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.
If one is going this far, when the temple is rebuilt then the Jews have returned.
Curiously the site of the temple is disputed, but without this Israel is still in exile. So it is still to come.
Are you sure about that. The Jews in Jesus' day would have compared what jesus was teaching with the OT to see if He was right.
Why has this changed?
In the OT, there are two Hebrew root words that have been translated into English as "generation."
One is speaking of "descendant generations" while the other is referring to an age. When the LXX was being translated into the Greek Language, the Greek word used for H:1755 was "genea." The other "Hebrew word for "Generation," is found in H:8435 a very different Hebrew word.
Genesis 10:32: - Αὗται αἱ φυλαὶ υἱῶν Νῶε κατὰ γενέσεις αὐτῶν, κατὰ τὰ ἔθνη αὐτῶν· ἀπὸ τούτων διεσπάρησαν νῆσοι τῶν ἐθνῶν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς μετὰ τὸν κατακλυσμόν.
Genesis 10:32: - These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.
Genesis 10:32: - These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.
Now, the Greek word found in Matt 24:34, γενεὰ is very different to the Greek word γενέσεις used in the LXX at Gen 10:32 which is associated with descendant generation, which is how you are wanting to understand γενεὰ in the Matt 24:34 verse.
Our understand of the language must be drawn from the time it was written, not from our understanding of language usage of today.
Your understanding of the meaning of Matt 24:34 is flawed, and as much as I disagree with Quitethinker, his understanding of an age being referenced by Jesus in the Matt 24:34 verse is in agreement with my understanding. Jesus was referring to the Millennium Age, which is the last age for Mankind in our present state, and many of the things we were told where with reference to the distant future from the time of His first advent.
You cannot just read the NT without having a good understanding of the OT, and neither trumps the other.
Shalom
The times of the Gentiles did not end until 1967. Some living in 1967 will witness Jesus return.
Israel took control of all of Jerusalem in 1967. The times of the Gentiles ended.If one is going this far, when the temple is rebuilt then the Jews have returned.
Curiously the site of the temple is disputed, but without this Israel is still in exile. So it is still to come.
Yes, I'm positive that OT never overrules NT, unless you reject the NT.
No Sanhedrin, no temple, no high priest, synagogues only. Other than the name and a secular government this is not Israel as prophesied, but a political manipulation.
Therefore linking this to prophecy is a big leap. I would have thought talking about world history and eternal significance, it needs to be better than this
Christian Zionism justifies the worst excesses against normal citizens of Jerusalem and the west bank.
Who owns the land? What kind of jee is God's Jew? Can God's Jew now steal everything and that is justice?
It is this kind of immorality that keeps the conflict going. And believers who live here, should they now leave because hating Christians is part of Christian Zionism. And these groups are easy believism prosperity leaders who hate righteous followers of Jesus.
Who owns the land? What kind of jee is God's Jew? Can God's Jew now steal everything and that is justice?
It is this kind of immorality that keeps the conflict going. And believers who live here, should they now leave because hating Christians is part of Christian Zionism. And these groups are easy believism prosperity leaders who hate righteous followers of Jesus.
You are just wrong. Probably a Pat Robertson follower.
The two phrases “tread under foot” and “times of the Gentiles” are referring to the Roman invasion and conquest of the Jews in AD 67-70.
If 1967 was the end of the times of the Gentiles, and if a generation is, Biblically, 40 years, and if Christ’s coming was to be at the end of the times of the Gentiles, then Christ should have come in 2007!
Clearly, Luke 21:20- 24 refers to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in AD 70. The second half of verse 24 says, ‘and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Pretty obvious, yet you all want to put everything in the future.
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