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This thread is for building a case in support of biblical patriarchy and against feminism.

A large majority of women were not in support of the first wave of feminism. The anti-sufragette movement was a much larger group than the sufragettes

Feminism was not a grass-roots movement of oppressed housewives but rather an occult-influenced top-down movement funded by millionaires and pushed by elite members of society. (I highly recommend the book Occult Feminism by Rachel Wilson for more on this topic)

In this thread, I want to address

* how feminism gave way to more abuse of women
*how women are not happier with feminist influence
*why biblical patriarchy is better
*women against Feminism including former feminists and feminists themselves
*what things were really like for women before Feminism. (What could they do?)
*how feminism has made society worse
 
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I love this perspective from a former feminist born in 1961.

I'm getting from her interview that in the past women held together communities that kept men accountable for bad behavior like spousal abuse or irresponsible sexual activity. Feminism took this away because women were no longer in homes and in neighborhoods. The community oversight that was attached to dating in courtship is now gone.

I was told that we need feminism to give women access to credit cards to get away from abusive men.

Feminism is the very thing that kneecaps the chivalric standard men held each other to and leaves women more likely to have to fend for themselves.

" Women always had choices".
There is no pre-feminist world where women could not have different lifestyles.
 

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This thread is for building a case in support of biblical patriarchy and against feminism.

A large majority of women were not in support of the first wave of feminism. The anti-sufragette movement was a much larger group than the sufragettes
Got any proof that a "large majority" of women were not in support of the First Wave of Feminism? Got any proof as to WHY that might have been so?
Feminism was not a grass-roots movement of oppressed housewives but rather an occult-influenced top-down movement funded by millionaires and pushed by elite members of society. (I highly recommend the book Occult Feminism by Rachel Wilson for more on this topic)
Not even close. The oppression of women was recognized by some MEN, as well as many women, WELL BEFORE feminism began to take root in the 1800's.
In this thread, I want to address

* how feminism gave way to more abuse of women
That wouldn't surprise me. After all, women are 'bucking the egotistical patriarchal system' that had (wrongly) been in place favoring men for a long time.
*how women are not happier with feminist influence
Says WHO? You?
It's not that women "aren't happier" with feminist influence. It's that not everyone agrees with the feminist movement and still seek to keep women down. And yes...women are not happy with that.
*why biblical patriarchy is better
Better than what? WHY do you think it's "better"?
*women against Feminism including former feminists and feminists themselves
So......?
*what things were really like for women before Feminism. (What could they do?)
If things were so great for women BEFORE feminism then WHY was feminism even started?
*how feminism has made society worse
Or....better.

I'm going to make a comparison here. From your picture, you're obviously a 'woman of color'. African-American. It's 2025 today, but do you have ANY idea how hard that people such as yourself had to FIGHT for the rights you have today? Would you want to go back to the 1960's and LIVE as a 'woman of color' with LESS rights than you have now?

Feminists don't only fight for "white" women's rights, but the rights for ALL women....REGARDLESS of color.

Thank feminism for the rights YOU have TODAY, Wynona.
 
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This thread is for building a case in support of biblical patriarchy and against feminism.

A large majority of women were not in support of the first wave of feminism. The anti-sufragette movement was a much larger group than the sufragettes

Feminism was not a grass-roots movement of oppressed housewives but rather an occult-influenced top-down movement funded by millionaires and pushed by elite members of society. (I highly recommend the book Occult Feminism by Rachel Wilson for more on this topic)

In this thread, I want to address

* how feminism gave way to more abuse of women
*how women are not happier with feminist influence
*why biblical patriarchy is better
*women against Feminism including former feminists and feminists themselves
*what things were really like for women before Feminism. (What could they do?)
*how feminism has made society worse
Such is truly Socialism !

The workings of Socialism and Socialism is in fact Satanic !

Such is a Cancer ! as it undermines people both body and Soul !

Such so called femanazis is stated for good reason ! as the Women who do not fall into line with the femanazis are hounded and abused etc etc, why don't You join us deal ? or you are the enemy ! such rants just goes to show all have to follow the Line set out for all ! That is what Socialism is all about ! because your own opinions etc do not count, because they do not respect anyones rights truly at all ! or they would have Grace and let otheres be. Like ok we value your own values ! but such Socialist do not Value You in fact, they dominate all in how you must live, or else you become the enemy ! I have seen such attacks on women on TV and the woman has had the good Grace to say good on you, but I am Me ! and I am not You ! but the nazifembots do not respect such !

No one can be yourself under Socialist, you have to follow or else you are subjected to be forced, that you are wrong !

So Socialism works so as to undermine society on every level, like school children are under the control of child molesters in fact, who are in fact messing with their minds and Gay agenders are preached as Idols in fact !

So any one who has an opinion that differes in any way, is classed and demanded as a homophobic moronic brainless total fool !
They are taught to fight anyone who says otherwise !
Just as Nazi Germany peddled the same sort of Pox on Children, and all !
Only this is a different strain of Pox that has been developed for todays world ?

Their is no need to tell any woman what is what, if they understand who they truly are. nor any man !

Their has always been idiot men who are fools that treat women badly, you will find that such, have the same intent with anyone in fact, so as to only try to lord it over others with no regard !

The main issue with such lays in that they lack Grace in fact !

Such as They think or want to own you ! regardless who or what you are ! Seen such displays full on many a time in my working life with some ignoramous jerk playing tactics, that are of nothing but that of a outright bastard !

The Gays are on that path and do just That as well, it's all dominating Tactics as they are self absorbed people who lack Virtue !

So you see such people can not function on a level with their wife as a united body as in Christ Jesus ?
 

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"We [feminists] couldn’t imagine any success except success in men’s terms."


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I had been pressured to go to college and pursue a career my whole childhood and as a young woman.

No one suggested I marry and become a homemaker. Now, I wish I had had more children and got over living my life according to a feminist checklist much sooner. I wasted part of my life.

I'm here to say that success is not just a paycheck. It's your family and home being a happy sanctuary in an evil world. It's having babies and watching their precious little faces. It's trusting a worthy man with your life.

These things are the things that truly matter. In a world that preaches success on men's terms, I'm saying if all you do in life is love a good man and raise Godly children, you've done mighty things that will leave the world better.

I wish someone had told me I didn't need a career. That there's nothing wrong with trusting a man to provide for you. How awesome marriage can be when rejecting the feminist playbook.


 

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If you don't see the unborn as a class of people worthy of protection ---the weak against the strong--- it's not surprising that society will no longer see women as worthy of protection either.
 

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You really don't get it. The goal of feminism isn't about "pushing women into the workforce". After all, women were 'pushed into the workforce' to take men's positions in the workforce during WW1 and WW2...which had NOTHING to do with feminism. The whole "If you can use a blender, you can use a power drill!" Rosy the Riveter wasn't born out of feminism.

But once some women DID join the workforce, they realized that there can be MORE to life than just bearing and raising kids.

I don't think that you get that if MEN had the same restrictions on THEM because of their gender, that were imposed on women...for the same REASONS...

How do you think a man would feel if he was told that your only value to society was to bring home a paycheck? Or, that the ONLY way you could bring home a paycheck was to be an oil rigger...? Plenty of men are oil riggers...but MOST men are NOT. And it's because 'society' tells them that they have a choice.

Why can't women have that same choice?
 

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If you don't see the unborn as a class of people worthy of protection ---the weak against the strong--- it's not surprising that society will no longer see women as worthy of protection either.
Worthy of protection from WHO?

Do you really think that if a woman is married, she's somehow 'protected' from other men?

Ohhhh, could I tell you stories.....about when I was married....
 

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This thread is for building a case in support of biblical patriarchy and against feminism.

The Bible doesn't teach patriarchy - at least, not in the sense feminists usually mean. God puts upon men responsibility, not the right to boss their wives around. They are given the "last word" in decision-making within the household, but not the first one, the "buck" stopping at them (and the blame for whatever bad things result), and must earn the trust and respect of their wives that is essential to their submission. Nowhere in the Bible does God ever issue to men carte blanche authority over their wives, or women generally.

Having said this, I don't think any wave of feminism has been biblical. This doesn't mean that I think women shouldn't have the right to vote or to seek careers beyond that of motherhood. It means that the misanthropy and envy that has been present always in feminism is not of God. These things are, in fact, very fleshly and have been well-inflamed by the devil to their present destructive - and bitterly ironic - form. But this is inevitably what happens when people throw off God's will and way for their own.

*how feminism has made society worse

On balance, I think this is demonstrably true. Yes, general societal equality between the sexes is a good thing but what I see now in feminism is a destructive mimicry by women of the worst kinds of men. Feminism today is often associated either with hyper-promiscuity and type-A, narcissistic behavior, and/or butch lesbianism. Female feminists (there are lots of beta-males calling themselves feminists) today are aggressively slutty (to use their own word), preening, even, over how many men they've had sexually. Even though this is as morally debasing of women as it is of promiscous men, even though sexual disease is rife in such a lifestyle, even though one's conscience and ability to truly love are profoundly damaged by this sort of behavior, modern feminists seem more eager than ever to be more "free" than men sexually.

Ironically, in being so, women have become the sex-toys of the very men they are trying to exceed. Now, many feminists will let any man who cares to do so ogle their private parts as they march, nude, en masse down a public roadway or gather in lewd groups in public parks to wave placards, proclaiming their right to be sexually foul. It isn't men with wholesome, noble, hearts and minds that take advantage of these silly feminists, cheering the naked, idiot women on as they leer hungrily at every region of the exposed forms of these deluded females. No, good men want nothing whatever to do with such repulsive women.

If they aren't carrying on sexually like a human version of a public urinal, some feminists are despising men, looking for the slightest reason to accuse them of misogyny, sexism, bigotry, oppressiveness, and brainlessness. Men are just over-sexed neanderthals, in their view, who are unredeemable except they feminize themselves. Men must be subjugated by women and made to pay in various ways for being male. These feminist must make men see that they are the lesser sex, and, really, utterly unrelated to the happiness and fulfillment of women. What benefit has this sort of feminism been to modern western society? None that I can see. It has only divided, and antagonized, and warped society, pitting men and women against one another to no constructive end.

Some women who've over-imbibed feminist ideology have taken to directly challenging men physically, attempting to compete with them in sports and even in combat. But the best women athletes and fighters cannot offer any real challenge to their male counterparts. When they do, they are easily defeated and sometimes badly injured. This has been made especially evident through the men-pretending-to-be-women nonsense that has made a mockery of female sports, mediocre male athletes dominating their female opponents. Has this united the sexes in the constructive building and maintenance of stable, moral societies? Not hardly.

I think, too, that feminism has no small part to play in the population collapses that are occurring world-wide. Feminism isn't the only factor, of course, in the enormous decline in populations around the globe, but it certainly has contributed to it. And so far as it has done so, feminism is responsible for the destruction of millennia-old societies. Within the next fifty years, many of the countries of Europe will be mere cultural artifacts, overrun by Muslim cultural jihadis who are breeding themselves into power throughout Europe. These nations have been in population decline for so long that they cannot recover, their unreplaced, aging populations soon to grow unsustainable and vulnerable to the antagonistic foreign immigrants they've allowed to flood their societies. It's going to be a bloodbath, actually, and motherhood-hating feminism has helped to bring such a circumstance to pass.

And so it goes, feminism corrupting and perverting God's design for individuals, families and societies and causing great harm as a result.
 
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"We [feminists] couldn’t imagine any success except success in men’s terms."


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I had been pressured to go to college and pursue a career my whole childhood and as a young woman.

No one suggested I marry and become a homemaker. Now, I wish I had had more children and got over living my life according to a feminist checklist much sooner. I wasted part of my life.
Probably because getting married and becoming a homemaker isn't a choice that only YOU have alone. You have to find someone who WANTS to marry you AND who also wants his wife to be a homemaker.

Besides, a number of women go to college in order to find a husband. And what if she doesn't find one by the time she graduates? Live with mom and dad until that day happens, taking some menial job in the meantime?

The reason(s) for me going to college was a matter of practicality, not feminism. I loved school, and I just wanted to continue. I also enjoyed working. But no one ever told me that I didn't have a choice...which was the whole idea about feminism in the first place; CHOICES. Maybe YOU felt that 'pressure', but why is it that other women your age didn't feel that?
I'm here to say that success is not just a paycheck.
Interesting...since so many men feel that it is about a paycheck. That their entire 'contribution' to a relationship begins and ends with their paycheck.
It's your family and home being a happy sanctuary in an evil world. It's having babies and watching their precious little faces. It's trusting a worthy man with your life.
Maybe for YOU it is, but every women isn't like you. What would make YOU happy isn't what would make EVERY woman happy.
These things are the things that truly matter. In a world that preaches success on men's terms, I'm saying if all you do in life is love a good man and raise Godly children, you've done mighty things that will leave the world better.
Oh Wynona, please be realistic. You can be a loving parent, showering your children with love...and they STILL could become a serial killer.
You can love a "good" man, and then after 15 years of marriage, he cheats...or suffers a job loss and starts to drink/use drugs. That "good man" you dated for a few years before marriage might change AFTER marriage...and become a controlling tyrant.
I wish someone had told me I didn't need a career. That there's nothing wrong with trusting a man to provide for you. How awesome marriage can be when rejecting the feminist playbook.
Do you really think that women who DID trust their husband to provide for them were ALWAYS the better for it?

You're not rejecting the feminist 'playbook'. Do you have the right to vote? You do NOW. Whether or not you exercise that right is up to you. Again, you have the CHOICE, whereas before, you didn't.

I think the problem is that so many rights that you have TODAY, you don't see as rights...LEGAL rights that women didn't have BEFORE. You take advantage of the very rights that women had to fight for...to give YOU...the future of women the same legal status as men. Just becuase *you* don't want to exercise those rights doesn't mean that ALL women shouldn't have them.
 

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While I appreciate detractors and other feedback on this thread, I plan to focus on my own case rather than quoting responders.
But you're not using facts to back up your own case. You're using feminist outlier theory, not getting that MOST feminists aren't "Nazi" feminists. MOST feminists don't bare their breasts in public in protest. MOST feminists don't hate men.

The majority of feminists out there simply want legal and psychological fairness. If a man can be a firefighter, why can't a woman? Many women are just as capable. Women are just as capable at inventions as men are. Women are just as capable in medicine...art...STEM...at having high IQ's...sports...

And yet...for so long in history...and even TODAY, so many men STILL think/believe that ALL women are incapable of doing MANY of the same things that men do.

If the bible says that women are to be man's "helper", then WHY don't men allow women to HELP them?
 

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Here is an excerpt from an article called The Paradox of the Declining Happiness of Women.

"By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the
past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well‐being indicate that women’s happiness
has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women’s declining relative well‐
being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well‐being, and is pervasive across
demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a
gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well‐being
than did men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging—one with higher
subjective well‐being for men."
 
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While I appreciate detractors and other feedback on this thread, I plan to focus on my own case rather than quoting responders.
I remembered may twenty fifth dear sister
but at that time was unable to respond .
You wanna know what i notice
we have the most miserable generation i have ever seen .
They only have a very short lived moment of joy WHEN defending sin
And often speak much about love , much about tolerance
BUT SURE dont seem to have any love or tolerance FOR TRUTH .
Do you ever get the feeling that satan sure can quoate any scrip
to include God is love , to include dont hate
AND YET HE IS TWISTING IT ALL in order to create the most sin accepting unbeleif accepting generation
that grows only harsher and harsher against THE TRUTH . cause i sure do see it .
 

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In Ezekiel 34, God has promised that He will enter into a covenant of Peace with Israel by removing Satan, the Beasts and the Little Horn from being able to operate for a period of 1,000 years, whom at the moment are able to influence the hearts of people everywhere.

That means that God has prepared a Summer Season to be able to have a great harvest of Souls that will be brought into His barns.

After the 1,000 years of peace, God will allow Satan, the Beast and the False Prophet, i.e. previously called the Little Horn, free reign on the face of the earth for around 24 years to sift the people and to separate the Wheat from the Tares.

At the moment we can see the toxicity of the various forms of man's desires to become God like in everything that they do.

We can see this in the Woke movement, in the Black Live Matter movements etc.

Because people everywhere, including some who call themselves "Christian" have turned away from God, they have lost their moral compass and are forcing many to comply with their man-based understanding of how God would want us to operate in His world. Sadly, because they have turned away from God, they have no reference base on which to operate upon to make the world a better place. They believe that operating God Like in that they do that things can only get better, but the evidence is shown us all that this is not the case.
 
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This thread is for building a case in support of biblical patriarchy and against feminism.

A large majority of women were not in support of the first wave of feminism. The anti-sufragette movement was a much larger group than the sufragettes

Feminism was not a grass-roots movement of oppressed housewives but rather an occult-influenced top-down movement funded by millionaires and pushed by elite members of society. (I highly recommend the book Occult Feminism by Rachel Wilson for more on this topic)

In this thread, I want to address

* how feminism gave way to more abuse of women
*how women are not happier with feminist influence
*why biblical patriarchy is better
*women against Feminism including former feminists and feminists themselves
*what things were really like for women before Feminism. (What could they do?)
*how feminism has made society worse

I believe that the story of humanity is one of REBELLION against God. Most women are in rebellion against God as evidenced by their rejecting their Godly roles in society. The consequences have been catastrophic.
 
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Got any proof that a "large majority" of women were not in support of the First Wave of Feminism? Got any proof as to WHY that might have been so?

Not even close. The oppression of women was recognized by some MEN, as well as many women, WELL BEFORE feminism began to take root in the 1800's.

That wouldn't surprise me. After all, women are 'bucking the egotistical patriarchal system' that had (wrongly) been in place favoring men for a long time.

Says WHO? You?
It's not that women "aren't happier" with feminist influence. It's that not everyone agrees with the feminist movement and still seek to keep women down. And yes...women are not happy with that.

Better than what? WHY do you think it's "better"?

So......?

If things were so great for women BEFORE feminism then WHY was feminism even started?

Or....better.

I'm going to make a comparison here. From your picture, you're obviously a 'woman of color'. African-American. It's 2025 today, but do you have ANY idea how hard that people such as yourself had to FIGHT for the rights you have today? Would you want to go back to the 1960's and LIVE as a 'woman of color' with LESS rights than you have now?

Feminists don't only fight for "white" women's rights, but the rights for ALL women....REGARDLESS of color.

Thank feminism for the rights YOU have TODAY, Wynona.

It sounds like you follow the world.