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Featured Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by justbyfaith, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    But he was not oneness by any means.

    “Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,” (2 Thessalonians 2:16)
     
  2. justbyfaith

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    Paul did indeed have the same view of the Trinity that I am espousing.

    'and' can be translated 'even'. It is the Greek word 'kai'.

    Otherwise you have this very verse saying that Jesus is not God, as evidenced by the preposition 'and'.
     
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  3. Dave L

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    You are not in line with the rest of scripture which makes Paul, if he agrees with you, to say something he does not.
     
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    We have already shown you that this reasoning is faulty. God by virtue of the fact that He inhabits eternity, will not cease to inhabit eternity in the descending; for it is the nature of eternity that if anyone dwells in it, they dwell in it eternally.

    But apparently this understanding is too esoteric for you to wrap your mind around.

    Nevertheless, if you will think on what eternity and the infinite means, you might be able to see that in the descending, Jesus (even the Father) did not cease to inhabit eternity.
     
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    You are going to have to elaborate on this; because I simply don't see what you are saying...I find that the scripture substantiates my view of things.
     
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    As you may know I have been out with a physical and mental problem for a couple of days and just now read this. Thank you very kindly for remembering me in prayer. Hopefully I will be around here again regularly. Give God the glory!
     
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    No comment, @Dave L?
     
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    The problem with most who are debating Onesess vs Trinitarianism vs Tritheism is that the Godhead is like a 3-dimentional God trying to be described by a 2-dimensional man. Unless God open their eyes to His Nature, they can only take 2D slices of the 3D God. And depending on how you slice Him, He can appear to be 1, 3, or BOTH. It's like 2 surgeons who take their own 2D image of a brain from different angles.. The 2D images may appear different, even though they are of same 3D brain. When God reveals Himself to you, you can understand the 3D God, and from that point on, you'll never argue over which 2D image of God is correct.
     
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    not saying that you're right or wrong, but the bible don't say this. he said, Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them".

    if what you say is true, then we must be 3d also. and to understand God, the bible again eliminates any 3D or 2D image. for, Romans 1:19 "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them".
    Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    so there is no excuse to know and understand God, that's bible. but foolish men, make it a mystery. not God.

    PICJAG.
     
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