So you are saying Christ had no free will?
No, I did not say that.
Put FREEWILL in context.
Men have Freewill.
Angels have Freewill.
God is ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
God by contrast, to FREEWILL of (men and angels), God can ONLY CHOOSE TRUTH.
Heb 6:16
Men "swear
by the greater" AND "oath".
This is telling you, a mans intent is to lean on God to HELP the man KEEP his word of Oath.
Heb 6:
[
16] For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife.
Heb 6:17
God is shewing the heirs of promise, Gods own "immutability" (which means UNCHANGING) of His OWN counsel.
His OWN "Counsel" IS, His OWN:
"WORD, TRUTH, POWER"...
(Lord God Almighty)
Heb 6:
[
17] Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath.
Isa 45 [
23] I have sworn
by myself...
Rom 11:
[
34] For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been
his counseller?
If he couldn't choose against sin, He is not our example.
Not sure what you mean, "God couldn't "CHOOSE AGAINST" Sin.
God can not "CHOOSE"...for or against sin.
Point being, THERE IS NO "choice" in any matter for GOD TO "think" about should "He think, and weigh, and ponder".....
He IS absolute TRUTH, and can forever and always ONLY BE "absolute" TRUTH.
Christ Jesus is EXPRESSLY
MY EXAMPLE.
He IS the TRUTH. He can NOT LIE.
A man CAN LIE.
A man With the POWER of the TRUTH; a man can AVOID LYING, AVOID being a man AGAINST God, AVOID being a man who commits sin.
Thus ^^ that man,
would be made, FREED FROM SIN.
Rom 6
7] For he that is dead is
freed from sin.
^^ A man "crucified" is FREED FROM SIN.
Surely you have heard, men become "crucified" with Christ?
^ ^ THAT is a man "FREED FROM SIN",
by and though the POWER of GOD, WHO IS Christ.
1 Cor 1
24] ...
Christ the power of God...
Heb 6
[
18] That by two immutable things, in which
it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
God IS "Unchangable", He IS the TRUTH, and CAN NOT LIE.
But scripture says He was tempted in all points just as we are with the choice to succumb, or resist.
TEMPTED...?
TEMPT, TEMPTED, TEMPTER, TEMPTATION...
Interesting WORDS....But MUST be understood IN CONTEXT...BY WHO is involved and the INTENT....and HOW one Responds.
TO TEMPT...requires a TEMPTER.
A TEMPTER...requires ANOTHER, TO HEAR, the TEMPTERS ...."IDEA".
The ONE "HEARING" the "TEMPTERS" "IDEA".....IS the one, being: called..."TEMPTED"
Did JESUS, "HEAR" the "BRIBE" of SATAN?
Yes.
So, DID Satan, "the TEMPTER"....
TEMPT Jesus?
Yes.
Do MEN, "HEAR" "TEMPTERS" "IDEAS" ?
Yes.
Would that mean, that that man had been "TEMPTED"
Yes.
Moving on to: "TEMPTATION."
What IS "TEMPTATION" ?
Temptation is WHEN, the TEMPTED, hears the "TEMPTERS" ideas...........AND..........
1) Considers DOING the Tempters idea.
2) DOES the Tempters idea.
^^ THAT IS 'the one who was TEMPTED"...
TO "FALL" into "TEMPTATION".
Did JESUS....consider Satan's IDEA?
No.
Did JESUS....do what was Satan's IDEA?
No.
WHY NOT?
Because that WOULD HAVE CAUSED, JESUS TO "FALL" into TEMPTATION.
Can THE TRUTH, FALL INTO "TEMPTATION" ?
WHY NOT?
Because "FALLING" INTO TEMPTATION, "IS" that WHICH IS AGAINST THE TRUTH. IT IS A LIE.
The TRUTH "can not stand AGAINST itself".
Did JESUS TEACH
HOW TO" deal with, and AVOID, "FALLING INTO TEMPTATION" ?
BY HIS OWN EXAMPLE?
Yes.
How say you then, Jesus IS NOT our example?
If Christ had any advantage over us, then as I said,He cannot be our example.
USE your OWN "reasoning SKILLS" within Context of the "FACTS".
First...LOOK at what YOU said.
"I" (you individually speaking)
"OUR" (you individually speaking for others, and not by you having an others authority for you to speak for them).
1) FACT: Jesus is Absolute TRUTH.
2) FACT: Satan is A LIAR.
3) FACT: Men are LIARS.
An individual man HAS "FREEWILL" and
"3" "OPTIONS of choices...
An individual man...CAN HEAR, and make his own CHOICES, by what he HEARS and CHOOSES to "go along with."
1) A man can Choose to "go along with and trust" LIAR # 3....himself or another man;
(as his example)
2) A man can Choose to "go along with and trust" LIAR # 2 ... Satan (as his example)
3) A man can Choose to "go along with and trust" ABSOLUTE TRUTH # 1...Jesus (as his example.)
POINT BEING...A man is NOT LIMITED, in who the man CHOOSES (as his example) to follow, trust and go along with.
A man WHO HAS CHOSEN "JESUS" as his "example"....IS A man IN AGREEMENT, with the CHOICE, Scripture encourages a man "TO CHOOSE", FOR; the man to BE "WITH", Jesus.
IF "JESUS" is NOT the "EXAMPLE" you have "chosen"...: then "you" would be correct to say...."He is not
your example"....
But
you can not "say FOR OTHER men", "WHO HAVE CHOSEN JESUS AS "THEIR" EXAMPLE".....
that Jesus, "is not "THEIR" example.
Glory to God,
Taken