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Bob Estey

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Trump is ignorant, and needs to persecuted more, who rapes, steals, and promotes violence and doesn't go to jail? and is allowed to run for POTUS????????? I have no respect for this useless breath in britches clown
Ignorant? He brought us four years of peace and prosperity. Look at what we have now.

Doesn't go to jail? What crime has he been convicted of? You can't throw him in jail just because you don't like him, though the Democrats are trying to do just that.
 

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I'm sorry if I wasn't clear or confused you. Self-interpretation of Scripture is what St. Peter warned against in 2 Peter 1:20-21. By what authority, other than yourself, do you claim to interpret the verses you provided?
If you issue even the smallest explanation of a text beyond simply posting the text as is, you are "self-interpreting". Besides, 2 Peter 1:20-21is not about the reader; rather, it is about the author.

Reading or hearing anything that is comprehended requires it to be interpreted by the one reading or hearing.
 

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Trump is ignorant, and needs to persecuted more, who rapes, steals, and promotes violence and doesn't go to jail? and is allowed to run for POTUS????????? I have no respect for this useless breath in britches clown

If you issue even the smallest explanation of a text beyond simply posting the text as is, you are "self-interpreting". Besides, 2 Peter 1:20-21is not about the reader; rather, it is about the author.

Reading or hearing anything that is comprehended requires it to be interpreted by the one reading or hearing.
But in what context are we to read and comprehend anything? Strictly by our own light, which I would argue that Peter was concerned about with regard to Scripture, or within the context of the constant, unchanged beliefs given Christ's Church by Christ from the beginning, that provided the New Testament?
 

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But in what context are we to read and comprehend anything? Strictly by our own light, which I would argue that Peter was concerned about with regard to Scripture, or within the context of the constant, unchanged beliefs given Christ's Church by Christ from the beginning, that provided the New Testament?
You have just self-interpreted in arguing what Peter was concerned about.
 
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You have just self-interpreted in arguing what Peter was concerned about.
That's an assumption. Actually, my context is always within the teachings of the Church that wrote and set the canon for the New Testament.
 

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Trump is ignorant, and needs to persecuted more, who rapes, steals, and promotes violence and doesn't go to jail? and is allowed to run for POTUS????????? I have no respect for this useless breath in britches clown
There are none who promotes violence and doesn't go to jail as the democrat leadership. The VP even set up a web site for donations to help pay for legal fees for Atifa, BLM and other rioters by the thousands who pillaged, plundered, burned and murdered. How do you think the current President managed to acquire millionaire status on a government salary? He is known to have not acquired it through legal business ventures or the stock market. He is known to have sold his product of his government positions through his son and probably otherwise. In that regard he is no different than Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, Nicolás Maduro or most of the rest of the socialist/communist dictators.
 

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That's an assumption. Actually, my context is always within the teachings of the Church that wrote and set the canon for the New Testament.
Which are similarly nothing more than self-interpretations of someone or at most groups of someones. None of them wrote any of the Bible.
 
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Yes the two are both men of flesh! And both were raised up by God to lead the people. I know what King David did in repenting to God for the sins he committed, because the Bible tells us. We don't know what is in the heart of Trump! And to pretend we do because he has a personality that seems to go against all that is godly is foolish. We know Trump only by what he has done, and by what he shall do if returned to the Oval Office. We can't allow Trump's personality to turn us against him if he is serving this country for good and not evil. It could be such a time as this is in America that God might raise him up again. And if God does it will be for America's good and not to do evil against America and Americans. We also know what we can expect from not only Biden, but any democrat that could be raised up by God to be President of the USA. Knowing democrats seek to do harm against this country and her people, if God raises up one of them again, we can be sure that God has turned away from this nation, choosing to curse and destroy rather than bless and build up. That will be because God sees the hearts of all people, and that every thought is only to do evil continually. I pray that God has not abandoned America altogether, which is why I pray He will again choose Trump to be the leader of OUR GREAT COUNTRY, that Trump will keep his promises to MAGA!
my concern is with the direction he is helping to guide the religions into .............
NOT A GOOD SIGN my friend . ;NOT , i repeat , NOT a GOOD SIGN .
the very abraham accords he did all to set up , WAS BY THE DIRECT WILL OF THE POPE HIMSELF as they gather the religoins to merge as one . THE RELIGOUS tolerance act HE signed , AGAIN its word for word for what the vatican and others have been saying and teaching
all ALONG . FOLKS are getting duped and duped BIG TIME my friend .
Fear not what is nor what is coming . SIMPLY HOPE and TRUST IN GOD . THIS WORLD has run its course
and worse christendom has helped to lead it into the greatest deceptoin there truly is .........
FOR ALL THIS THE WICKED WILL NOT GO UNPUNSHISHED .
YOU want to see a country or nation prosper . THEN GET INTO PREACHING REPENTANCE LIKE JONAH DID
cause these leaders aint saving SQUAT . this world and her nations and worse CHRISTENDOM under guise
it has the light , has BROUGHT GREAT DARKNESS UNTO THE WORLD . IT WONT BODE WELL on tHE DAY OF THE LORD EITHER .
 

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Which are similarly nothing more than self-interpretations of someone or at most groups of someones. None of them wrote any of the Bible.
The New Testament was written by members of the original Church founded by Christ. The Apostles were taught by Jesus Christ...orally. Nobody took notes. Nobody recorded the teachings. Jesus commanded the Apostles to go forth and teach and preach all that He had taught them. SOME of what they were taught was eventually written down. And, towards the end of the 4th century, this same Church defined some of what was written down as being worthy of being considered Scripture. We call that the New Testament. Christ gave his authority to teach and preach to His Church. He promised that the Church would never teach error. The Church has faithfully protected the teachings of Christ (Deposit of Faith) from the beginning. It has never changed even one of the teachings of Christ. If anyone believes something different than has always been taught, then they must provide proof. Did Jesus come back with a list of corrections? Or an angel (as the Mormons seem to think)?
 

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The New Testament was written by members of the original Church founded by Christ. The Apostles were taught by Jesus Christ...orally. Nobody took notes. Nobody recorded the teachings. Jesus commanded the Apostles to go forth and teach and preach all that He had taught them. SOME of what they were taught was eventually written down. And, towards the end of the 4th century, this same Church defined some of what was written down as being worthy of being considered Scripture. We call that the New Testament. Christ gave his authority to teach and preach to His Church. He promised that the Church would never teach error. The Church has faithfully protected the teachings of Christ (Deposit of Faith) from the beginning. It has never changed even one of the teachings of Christ. If anyone believes something different than has always been taught, then they must provide proof. Did Jesus come back with a list of corrections? Or an angel (as the Mormons seem to think)?
Your definition and understanding of the Greek word ἐκκλησία [ekklēsia] is monstrously strained and inappropriate.
 

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Trump is ignorant, and needs to persecuted more, who rapes, steals, and promotes violence and doesn't go to jail? and is allowed to run for POTUS????????? I have no respect for this useless breath in britches clown

Yeah, well your boy biden is telling financial institutions to spy on those that don't support Joe Bribem!

Federal Government Flagged Transactions Using Terms like "MAGA" and "TRUMP" for Financial Institutions

Maybe if Trump gets elected he can return the favor and have banks spy on baby killin liberal perverts! funny.gif
 
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45 is the best president we have had since Reagan as far as this nation goes.. (inspite of all the bad stuff he brought with him)

And if you think the president we have now is good.. You need to stop listening to the woke media who refuse to tell you the truth.

The last president race. i voted for the less of two evils. Sadly the worst one won

The libs brought all these things up against trump. Slowly but surely each one is being debunked..

However. the president we have now is guilty of far worse things that trump was brought up.. Yet people would still rather have him.

I call these people hypocrites.
and I suppose you are the ( putting it bluntly) small percentage of white evangelical Christians
Yeah, well your boy biden is telling financial institutions to spy on those that don't support Joe Bribem!

Federal Government Flagged Transactions Using Terms like "MAGA" and "TRUMP" for Financial Institutions

Maybe if Trump gets elected he can return the favor and have banks spy on baby killin liberal perverts! View attachment 40198
I can understand why and you should too, these terrorist traitors of the union need to be watch, MAGA huh watch what you deem great! tRump is an enemy to the country, and he's not getting elected, there is enough people in their right minds, and TRUE Evangelical Christians to stop that
 

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I support fully so much of the policy decisions President Trump has made and put into effect. I voted for him in 2016 and 2020 and also supported his Presidential run with money. His narcissism in the past I attributed to a sense of humor that was geared to tweak and arouse the anger of leftists and RINOs. Now I am seeing his narcissism has become solidly how he truly thinks. This is dangerous for his belief that he can never be wrong has gone to extreme. The following statements in that video are repulsive to me as a believer in Jesus the Christ, Jesus the Messiah sent to save his people:

“And on June 14, 1946, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, ‘I need a caretaker,’ so God gave us Trump.”

The Trump video includes repeated religious references and quotations from the Bible. A narrator describes Trump as one who “follow(s) the path and remain(s) strong in faith.”

Trump, "strong in the faith"???? The only faith Trump evidences is faith in himself, not faith in God or the American people. I do not like making a political commercial or whatever they call it, of a human being being described in like manner as when God the Father sent God the Son to earth to save his people. That seems blasphemous to my thinking.

In 2016 and 2020 I passed Trump off as our modern day Cyrus, not a child of God by faith in Christ, but he was used by God to make certain policy decisions to give opening for Christians to live and breathe freely under our government. His Roe Vs Wade view on appointing the 3 Supreme Court Justices was his greatest achievement; and, he did seem to try to stop the flow of illegals into the USA, with intense opposition by Leftists and de facto Communists in this country.

While Governor DeSantis is not great on a debate stage, nor is he an imposing presence; in Florida he did excellent work, and kept his finger on most things happening in the State. Governor DeSantis is fully conservative and effective in an executive position like Governor and President. I'll vote for DeSantis in the primary and hopefully in Nov. 2024; but I'm concerned Trump will win the nomination even with all the personal baggage he'll have. I'll end up either voting 3rd Party or not vote in the Presidential choice part of the ballot. There are two sayings I've considered: "Don't vote for the lesser of two evils for it is still evil"; or "Don't reject the good for an insistence on the perfect." I may not have the exact wording, but that is the substance.

In the past I could view Trump as our Cyrus, today I must reject him for his increased narcissism which has become extreme and no longer humorous. We can have good Christian and conservative values in Gov. Ron DeSantis without so much underlying wickedness. He has proven himself as an efficient executive in the State of Florida.

Campaigning on one's prior, proven record...is not "narcissism." It's what it takes to win.

Even if Trump is a modern day Nebuchadnezzar--why throw your vote away to the benefit of the Democrats, greater of two evils? Best to put your feelings aside.

Nebuchadnezzar: The Jews thereafter referred to Nebuchadnezzar, the greatest enemy they had faced until that point, as a "destroyer of nations" (משחית גוים, Jer. 4:7). The biblical Book of Jeremiah paints Nebuchadnezzar as a cruel enemy, but also as God's appointed ruler of the world and a divine instrument to punish disobedience.
 
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There are none who promotes violence and doesn't go to jail as the democrat leadership. The VP even set up a web site for donations to help pay for legal fees for Atifa, BLM and other rioters by the thousands who pillaged, plundered, burned and murdered. How do you think the current President managed to acquire millionaire status on a government salary? He is known to have not acquired it through legal business ventures or the stock market. He is known to have sold his product of his government positions through his son and probably otherwise. In that regard he is no different than Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, Nicolás Maduro or most of the rest of the socialist/communist dictators.
one name Putin
 

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I agree with so much of what you've stated ....except, I don't believe anyone will fix the government. I know that's not what you said. But I don't believe anyone will come into the WH and be a good Christian.

Even so, Jesus now reigns and this is all just the enactment of evidences before the Judgment.

Don't be surprised if the Judgement is not also first enacted in the events of this world, as it is written, "Behold, the former things have come to pass, And new things I declare; Before they spring forth I tell you of them.” Isaiah 42:9
 

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I can understand why and you should too, these terrorist traitors of the union need to be watch, MAGA huh watch what you deem great! tRump is an enemy to the country, and he's not getting elected, there is enough people in their right minds, and TRUE Evangelical Christians to stop that

I'm sure you'll get Freak of the Week Award for being such a faithful comrade to your boy biden who is owned by the chinese communists who instruct him in his ongoing efforts to destroy the US

You have spoken like a true communist!

creepy_guy4.gif Go get that Communist Award!
 
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Trump is dangerous - a Messianic Complex

^ :-( ^

Trump is a long time businessman.

Trump is not amiss to ask God His Blessings upon America and Americans and Israel.

Trump is a short time Statesman, with the ability to Speak to All of the People in a Language that All of the People Speak and understand, be “they” Businessmen, Diplomats, Affluent, Popular, Trashy, Poor, Attackers, Supporters.

If you Listen closely you would hear the sound of a Trump For God, For America, For Americans, For Israel.

If you did your due diligence you would discover what Trump did as your Servant was beneficial for America and Americans.

Glory to God,
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If you did your due diligence you would discover what Trump did as your Servant was beneficial for America and Americans.

And, therein lies the problem... the liberals are globalists who want the deconstruction of the US so the one world government can come forth along with their daddy the anti-christ.

They cannot have Trump or anybody else that wants the US to be strong getting elected.
 
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