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[Sister-n-Christ]

The Lord did not ordain and command that we celebrate His birth or resurrection, so I wouldn't consider it to be of Him....although I don't believe it is sin to do so, in and of itself. Paul wrote that whether we esteem one day above another or not, to let everyone be persuaded in their own mind, so it's between the individual and the Lord.

Yes. That would be a lovely truth for some to realize here.

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

I just wanted to point out that there is just no command by the Lord to set aside a day to celebrate these things. He didn't ordain any such days, even though the birth (and resurrection) of Christ are written about in the scriptures.

And yet,we are not to be judged if we honor Easter as his resurrection day,nor Christmas as his time of birth.

Unfortunately,the enemy of God wants to lead us to believe such respect and celebrations are his domain first.

He's a liar from the beginning. And nothing has changed.

 

[Truth7t7]

Still no proof. Jeremiah 10:1 is about making tree Idols and you should know that. Please, that tree idol is right out of Ted Armstrong's book.

I dont follow Ted Armstrong, I'm a non-denominational Christian that opposes the Cults

Easter, Christmas, and "Sun"day observance is of pagan origin and has no instruction biblically

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes. That would be a lovely truth for some to realize here.

I dont judge any person, 95% of churches in the US are following the pagan traditions, im just showing the truth regarding the subject

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Truth7t7]

Unfortunately,the enemy of God wants to lead us to believe such respect and celebrations are his domain first.

He's a liar from the beginning. And nothing has changed.

Yes Easter, Christmas, and "Sun"day observance are of pagan origin that pre-dates Christianity, "The Truth"

Once again, and it's not going to change

Jesus gave the church a direct instruction on how to "Remember Him" not his "Birth" or "Resurrection" but his "Death"

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

Yes Easter, Christmas, and "Sun"day observance are of pagan origin that pre-dates Christianity, "The Truth"

Once again, and it's not going to change

Jesus gave the church a direct instruction on how to "Remember Him" not his "Birth" or "Resurrection" but his "Death"

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

Far be it from this Christian to try to convince someone Pagan history overcomes Christ.

 

[Triumph1300]

If the new American Pope Hates Lies he is in for a good ride with Trump.
But Popes being liars as well, I would say now we have two American cult leaders in the public eye.
A political and a religious cult.

 

[Rockerduck]

If the new American Pope Hates Lies he is in for a good ride with Trump.
But Popes being liars as well, I would say now we have two American cult leaders in the public eye.
A political and a religious cult.

The amount hate that comes out of you, is equal to the hate you have for yourself. If its American, you hate it. Look at yourself, what makes you any better? God knows the heart and all those who love God are known by Him. I Corinthians 8:3. Are you known by God?

 

[Truth7t7]

If the new American Pope Hates Lies he is in for a good ride with Trump.
But Popes being liars as well, I would say now we have two American cult leaders in the public eye.
A political and a religious cult.

When was the last time you lied?

 

[TLHKAJ]

When was the last time you lied?

There is a difference between occasionally telling a lie (unintentionally, mistakenly, etc) and someone who is a snake and a deceiver, and takes joy in it.

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

I haven't seen the movie, but yes, there have always been fleshly power struggles in that evil institution, because it is of the flesh and carnal mind. I don't think it is any different than the Caesars of Rome and the bloody courts of Europe in terms of ambitions and power struggles, and competing ideas. Although I have no idea whether this Pope was murdered or not...he was aged and his last illness left him very frail and weak.....and whatever his last speech was (I didn't see it), he had been unabashedly liberal from the beginning.

Sister, we all need to walk humbly in the fear of the Lord, as we have an enemy always seeking to devour and deceive, and it is a spiritual battle. Scripture says take heed who thinks he stands lest he fall. I have heard of believers turning to Catholicism, though I guess only God knows in each case if they had genuinely been born again. As well as that many protestant churches unfortunately have been deceived to soften their stance towards Catholicism in recent years.

I believe we should not hesitate to witness to Catholics what the Lord did in bringing us to Him, as we have opportunity.....in the mouths of two or three witnesses let every truth be established...we just never know when our witness will help pave the way for someone coming to Christ, be they Catholic or any other.

I tried to watch the movie. It was so slow going and boring I could feel my hair growing. lol So,I turned it off.
Then I went to a movie spoiler site and found how it ends.

After writing the end of that movie to culminate with the election of a Mexican hermaphrodite, I think the producers of that movie really don't like the RCC.

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

I just wanted to point out that there is just no command by the Lord to set aside a day to celebrate these things. He didn't ordain any such days, even though the birth (and resurrection) of Christ are written about in the scriptures.

Our minds are on God,Jesus,when we celebrate Easter and Christs-mass.

Paganism has nothing to do with what Christians revere.

The religious history of other faiths across the globe contain Savior Gods.
Are Christians going to stop referring to Jesus as our Savior because earlier faith practices had their own saviors in place?

If we listen to the propaganda that insists historic Pagan rites should be allowed to eradicate Christians celebrations in the name of Jesus, we're giving paganism power to overcome our faith and trust in the powers of God.

Some go so far as to say our calendar days of the week are Pagan. So,what do we go do to avoid interacting with that?


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I also don't discount the motives of unbelievers who join where Christians meet and try to confuse Christians and troll topics we discuss with respect as part of our faith walk.

I dismiss those who are obsessed with giving Pagans power over Christ.
"Pagans were there first! We can't do that!"

Our God knows his children. And he knows our heart when we celebrate his birth at Christmas And his resurrection at Easter.

He didn't have to command us to. And let's be real,had he done so there are those who would obsess and insist we don't have to do that. Because the law of God is done away with .

Paul said, let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

But there are those that do.

 

[Lizbeth]

Our minds are on God,Jesus,when we celebrate Easter and Christs-mass.

Paganism has nothing to do with what Christians revere.

The religious history of other faiths across the globe contain Savior Gods.
Are Christians going to stop referring to Jesus as our Savior because earlier faith practices had their own saviors in place?

If we listen to the propaganda that insists historic Pagan rites should be allowed to eradicate Christians celebrations in the name of Jesus, we're giving paganism power to overcome our faith and trust in the powers of God.

Some go so far as to say our calendar days of the week are Pagan. So,what do we go do to avoid interacting with that?


upload a pic

I also don't discount the motives of unbelievers who join where Christians meet and try to confuse Christians and troll topics we discuss with respect as part of our faith walk.

I dismiss those who are obsessed with giving Pagans power over Christ.
"Pagans were there first! We can't do that!"

Our God knows his children. And he knows our heart when we celebrate his birth at Christmas And his resurrection at Easter.

He didn't have to command us to. And let's be real,had he done so there are those who would obsess and insist we don't have to do that. Because the law of God is done away with .

Paul said, let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

But there are those that do.

I dont' entirely disagree with your point in principle, which is why I mentioned that verse. It's a shame that Catholicism caused so much confusing and conflating of things that are of God with things that aren't.....what a mess they made. We shouldn't take differing opinions as being necessarily judgmental though. For myself I object to calling the Lord's day of resurrection "Easter" because that is a clear derivative of the name of a pagan goddess Ishtar. And I stopped using candy eggs and bunnies as a means to celebrate, because of what they symbolize. At Christmas I stopped having a tree a long time ago too, once I noticed that verse that identifies it as a pagan practice. Scripture says God doesnt' want us to worship Him the way pagans worship their gods. But that is me and my conscience doing the best I can with the information I have. And I can certainly understand if those who have been subjected to horrific abuses as part of Satanic pagan rituals on those days why they would not want to have anything to do with them at all.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Jesus wasn't resurrected at easter..Lol

 

[Triumph1300]

The amount hate that comes out of you, is equal to the hate you have for yourself.

There is the hate card again when someone posts the truth.
And it comes from a theologian, claiming to know the bible better than anyone else on this forum.

 

[Rockerduck]

There is the hate card again when someone posts the truth.
And it comes from a theologian, claiming to know the bible better than anyone else on this forum.

There is no truth in you when you hate anything American.

 

[TLHKAJ]

And I can certainly understand if those who have been subjected to horrific abuses as part of Satanic pagan rituals on those days why they would not want to have anything to do with them at all.

Bless you for this. It's not uncommon for satanic ritual abuse survivors who turned to Christ to separate 100% from anything connected to the pagan practices, because it is so plainly a mixture with the world.

Do we celebrate and rejoice in His resurrection? ABSOLUTELY! Are we grateful for His birth? ABSOLUTELY! If He didn't come, we couldn't go, right? Are we grateful that He chose to go to the cross and take all our sins upon Himself ....oh my goodness, how can you put words to that?! He did what we could never do ...and all He asks is that we believe He is who He says He is, that we love Him with all our heart, mind, and soul ...and love our neighbor as ourselves. What an exchange!! We are broken ....and He was broken for us so we can be whole in Him. Just amazing ....beyond words!!!

 

[Triumph1300]

When was the last time you lied?

We all lie from time to time. We are all sinners saved by grace.
But this man's lies have an effect on millions of people worldwide.
He lies on a daily basis. Consistantly.
And the goats believe and follow him.

 

[Triumph1300]

There is no truth in you when you hate anything American.

You think I hate anything American.
Not so.
I have dear friends in the USA.
And my American friends actually think the same about this guy as I do.

 

[Rockerduck]

You think I hate anything American.
Not so.
I have dear friends in the USA.
And my American friends actually think the same about this guy as I do.

Then choose Love which opposite of hate, you take up your cross and follow Jesus or don't. Jesus said follow me and love your others as you love yourself. God is in charge always. Do the will of God, and not your friends.