Yes. I agree, except this was fulfilled in 70AD
No, it was not. The Signs Jesus gave in His Olivet discourse are the SEALS of Revelation 6, and the Seals have yet to happen. None of that is connected with 70 A.D.
Yes, I agree. This will be in our future.
Then why can't you agree that the "abomination of desolation" is for the future also, since Jesus gave it for the same time as that 42 months of the beast in power? You see, we cannot just scrap the AOD from its given link to the 1260 day period (or 42 months) of the coming "great tribulation" time.
I'm not sure that 1260 days is the same as 42 months. I mean, These two figures are mathematically the same, but the units are not the same. I am open to the idea that the "day" might be different than a "moon" symbolically.
It's good to notice their difference per their source calculation, because one time is put for the children of darkness (42 months per lunar reckoning), and the 1260 day time is put for the children of the day (which is per the solar reckoning). This is why they 'both' are given as the same period in the Revelation 11 chapter, one being for Gentiles that tread the city for 42 months, and the other being for God's "two witnesses" that will prophesy for 1260 days.
Would you consider that the first six Trumpets represent the Great Tribulation Period?
No. Only the 6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe period represents the time of "great tribulation" for the end of this world, because it is the one just prior to Christ's future return on the 7th Trumpet - 3rd Woe (per Rev.11).
If you listen to men's doctrines, you'll be misled about the events of Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 11 about the "vile person". The symbolic "one week" (7 years) of Daniel 9:27 divides that 7 years into 2 ea. 1260 days periods. The latter half 1260 days represents the time of "great tribulation" for the end of this world. The first half 1260 days represents a time when the Jews in Jerusalem will build their 3rd temple and startup old covenant temple worship again, which today, they already have the materials ready to build it, even having re-made temple artifacts for worship in Jerusalem.
I used to believe that, but my view didn't make sense of the disciple's question. Since Daniel 11 doesn't mention the destruction of the Temple, I think Daniel 9 is a better fit.
Just because you "used" to believe that Dan.11:31 verse is about the "abomination of desolation" that Jesus quoted will not change the 'fact' that is what it about, and is even repeating the very idea Jesus forewarned in Matthew 24:15. So I get that "I used to believe" ploy a lot by those who trying to deny the very Scripture, and I consider it as an insult to my intelligence in this case, or of the intelligence of anyone who can read simple English.
I agree for the most part. Bear in mind that John is told to take a survey instrument to measure the site for the temple. Perhaps the temple is being built during the 1260 days? Might this explain why the court is left to be trampled underfoot? I don't know. Just thinking out loud.
I'm well aware Apostle John was given "a reed like unto a rod" and told to go measure that temple of God, the altar, and them that worship therein. That is comparison with the "measuring reed" which Ezekiel was shown by the angel in Ezekiel 40:3, but with a difference.
The "measuring reed" Ezekiel saw in the hand of the angel was not said to be likened to "a rod". The idea of it being "like unto a rod" is easily passed over, yet that is how God's Word often works, giving us a 'hint' of something that is easy to pass off as normal or natural. The "like unto a rod" is put for a rod of punishment in the case of Revelation 11 about the idea of 'measuring' that future temple of God, and altar, and those who worship therein. It's about the idea of 'do they measure up according to God', or not. Then John is told to leave out measuring the court without the temple, because it is given to the Gentiles, and they will literally "tread" (Greek
pateo = literally tread) the holy city for 42 months.
Put all that together and it is pointing to something fishy going on there with that temple and those Gentiles 'treading' the "holy city" of Jerusalem for that time of the 6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe. For those who have studied the Old Testament prophets like Christ's Apostles had, it becomes very easy to grasp what all that is about, because it is pointing to the fake peace and false worship under the Antichrist in Jerusalem for the end, of which the Book of Daniel reveals. It is about the false "Peace and safety" the deceived will be saying at the end, which Apostle Paul warned about in 1 Thessalonians 5.
Perhaps this is necessitated by Daniel 11. But it isn't necessitated by Daniel 9. I believe, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ was the Abomination that Caused Desolation in the first century.
Study the Ezekiel 8 & 9 Chapters, then you'll get a deeper clue of what the "abomination of desolation" is about. It's about a literal IDOL placed in false worship, and it makes our Heavenly Father very jealous, as He says there about that "image of jealousy" He even calls it.
And our Heavenly Father already showed us the pattern of what the coming Antichrist at the end of this world is going to do in the future Jew's 3rd temple in Jerusalem, with placing that abomination IDOL in that new temple there, and demanding that all bow to it, or be killed. That is what the "image of the beast" in Revelation 13 is about, a repeat of what Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, did with having a gold IDOL image made and setting it up in false worship, and demanding all bow to it at the sound of the psalter, or be killed for refusing to bow to it.
So no way am I going to be foolish enough to believe a bunch of men's malarkey originating from Satan's servants to make me think that "abomination of desolation" event ain't about a literal IDOL setup in false worship. It don't take no anvil to fall upon my head to grasp God's Word about all this.
