Typical questions people ask about the Olivet Discourse.

[Davy]

No, the pre-trib rapture proponents themselves don't say that specifically just prior to the great tribulation. You are mis-stating what they believe.

I JUST SHOWED FROM ONE OF THEIR MAIN WEBSITES! CROSSWORD!

Try READING WHAT I POST, INSTEAD MAKING UP LIES!
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THEIR WORDS:

"Pre-Tribulation—(Pre 70th-week of Daniel) The Rapture will take place before the Tribulation spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 24:21, ... ."
That is from Is a Pretribulation Rapture Biblical?

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That Matthew 24:21 verse is where Jesus said "great tribulation" and timed it with the MIDDLE OF THE "ONE WEEK", which is when He mentioned the "abomination of desolation" with it!

So what's your problem? CAN'T YOU READ?

 

[3 Resurrections]

Based on what? Who told you? God? Show us the Scripture. Your theories are starting to get too many holes with speculations. Not surprised with Preterism.

The scriptures show us just how demonic possession had saturated the nation of Israel in the first century. Christ sent out 70 individuals into the various cities of Israel to which He would be coming, and they ALL returned rejoicing with the news that the demons were subject to them in Christ's name (Luke 10:17). Likewise the 12 disciples in Matt. 10:8 were also sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel to "heal the sick, cleanse the lepers raise the dead, cast out devils." We have the scripture account of Mary Magdalene, out of whom Christ cast seven devils (Luke 8:2). We also have the account of the demoniac of Gadara, with a legion of unclean spirits possessing him (Mark 5:9). There are many other miracles Christ performed which cast out devils from individuals of various ages and genders.

Acts 19:13-16 also mentions the "vagabond Jews", the seven sons of Sceva, a chief priest, who were attempting exorcisms. Christ also asked the Pharisees by whom their sons were casting out devils (Matt. 12:27). Demonic possession seemed to be a quite common plague in Israel in those days. Yet as bad as that plague had been, Christ promised that in its "last state", that "wicked generation" would be plagued with demonic possession seven times more manifold and more wicked than in its "first state" when He had been casting out devils from those in Israel (Matthew 12:43-45). This happened in the years from AD 66-70 during the "Great Tribulation" period. At no other time in history either before or after that would a city experience having "every unclean spirit" imprisoned as they were in Jerusalem (Rev. 18:2).

Isaiah had also predicted this imprisonment of the evil angelic hosts in Isaiah 24:23-21-23. These would be gathered together in Jerusalem along with the high priest "kings of the earth", just like prisoners in a pit. After many days, they would all be "found wanting", which means gone from existence. Since the high priest "kings of the earth" shared the same fate at the same time as the evil angelic hosts, and we no longer have any high priest "kings of the earth" in existence anymore since AD 70, that means the demonic realm of unclean spirits was also eliminated at that time. Zechariah 13:2 predicted that God would cause the unclean spirits to "pass out of the land" after the siege both against Judah and Jerusalem (Zech. 12:2).

Tribulation has never been experienced before in the history of the world? Those people within Jersualem? Really? Where you get that idea from. Speculation? Come on, do better to show Scripture to prove that it is people within Jerusalem created a tribulation never before.

The Great Tribulation was going to be "wrath upon THIS PEOPLE" the Israelites in the land of Judea. Christ warned His followers in Matthew 24 to leave Judea and Jerusalem and flee to the mountains to escape those coming plagues listed in the Olivet Discourse. Their warning cue to physically flee was when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies (Luke 21:20) - which happened when both the Zealot armies and the Roman armies engaged with each other in AD 66 at Jerusalem. After that time, Jerusalem would be besieged by the Zealot armies and no one would be able to leave for the duration of the war. This was the period of imprisonment for the people inside the walls of Jerusalem, who were then plagued by every unclean spirit being imprisoned along with the people they were possessing.

 

[Davy]

The scriptures show us just how demonic possession had saturated the nation of Israel in the first century. Christ sent out 70 individuals into the various cities of Israel to which He would be coming, and they ALL returned rejoicing with the news that the demons were subject to them in Christ's name (Luke 10:17). Likewise the 12 disciples in Matt. 10:8 were also sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel to "heal the sick, cleanse the lepers raise the dead, cast out devils." We have the scripture account of Mary Magdalene, out of whom Christ cast seven devils (Luke 8:2). We also have the account of the demoniac of Gadara, with a legion of unclean spirits possessing him (Mark 5:9). There are many other miracles Christ performed which cast out devils from individuals of various ages and genders.

Acts 19:13-16 also mentions the "vagabond Jews", the seven sons of Sceva, a chief priest, who were attempting exorcisms. Christ also asked the Pharisees by whom their sons were casting out devils (Matt. 12:27). Demonic possession seemed to be a quite common plague in Israel in those days. Yet as bad as that plague had been, Christ promised that in its "last state", that "wicked generation" would be plagued with demonic possession seven times more manifold and more wicked than in its "first state" when He had been casting out devils from those in Israel (Matthew 12:43-45). This happened in the years from AD 66-70 during the "Great Tribulation" period. At no other time in history either before or after that would a city experience having "every unclean spirit" imprisoned as they were in Jerusalem (Rev. 18:2).

Isaiah had also predicted this imprisonment of the evil angelic hosts in Isaiah 24:23-21-23. These would be gathered together in Jerusalem along with the high priest "kings of the earth", just like prisoners in a pit. After many days, they would all be "found wanting", which means gone from existence. Since the high priest "kings of the earth" shared the same fate at the same time as the evil angelic hosts, and we no longer have any high priest "kings of the earth" in existence anymore since AD 70, that means the demonic realm of unclean spirits was also eliminated at that time. Zechariah 13:2 predicted that God would cause the unclean spirits to "pass out of the land" after the siege both against Judah and Jerusalem (Zech. 12:2).

The Great Tribulation was going to be "wrath upon THIS PEOPLE" the Israelites in the land of Judea. Christ warned His followers in Matthew 24 to leave Judea and Jerusalem and flee to the mountains to escape those coming plagues listed in the Olivet Discourse. Their warning cue to physically flee was when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies (Luke 21:20) - which happened when both the Zealot armies and the Roman armies engaged with each other in AD 66 at Jerusalem. After that time, Jerusalem would be besieged by the Zealot armies and no one would be able to leave for the duration of the war. This was the period of imprisonment for the people inside the walls of Jerusalem, who were then plagued by every unclean spirit being imprisoned along with the people they were possessing.

Nice try, but the "great tribulation" Jesus showed is for the very END of this world, and still is yet to happen.

Even WWI and WWII were WORSE TIMES than the 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem and the temple by the little ole' Roman army under Titus. And WWI and WWII still were not the coming "great tribulation" event.

Thus your Preterist theories from men do not work.

 

[Timtofly]

timed it with the MIDDLE OF THE "ONE WEEK", which is when He mentioned the "abomination of desolation" with it!

Davy, that website never even mentions the AoD, nor defines the GT as the last half of any week.

That is your interpretation of Scripture that is wrong. The AoD is not the first half. The AoD is the erroneous last half by post trib adherents. The GT happens first, not the Antichrist. The AoD does not even happen until after the 7th Trumpet. The AoD is not the last half of a 7 year period. It just happens to be 42 months or 3.5 years. The length does not automatically make it the first half nor last half of any period. The GT itself is not even 3.5 years in length.

You have to change the entire book of Revelation to get it to fit how Matthew 24 presented the Second Coming. Most people fit Revelation into Matthew 24 instead of changing Matthew 24 to better understand the book of Revelation. Matthew 24 is the only place post trib people find their proof verse by misinterpretation of the text.

Those who state the Second Coming is found in Revelation 19, go against the thief in the night, no one knows, point made in Scripture. The battle of Armageddon is a known and planned event down to the very day and the hour of that day. The entire human population is gathered by God to that very event. God does not gather the entire earth together in one place at the actual Second Coming. That would not be a mystery and thief in the night moment.

Mark presents the Second Coming as:

"But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,"

This does not say immediately after any tribulation. Some time in those days after that tribulation. Mark mentioned an affliction, an AoD, persecution of the church, and false prophets and false teachers. So which of these mentioned troubles is "that" tribulation? The false prophets and teachers? The persecution of the church? Obviously the Second Coming stops the persecution of the church, because the church is taken away. After the AoD, or after great affliction? If you want a detailed explanation, look in Revelation.

At least Matthew uses the terminology great tribulation. But still vague on the Second Coming.

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened."

Now Matthew says immediately after not just in those days. But still incorporated the thought of the tribulation of those days. So it still could be any of the above events: false prophets and false teachers, great tribulation, the AoD, or the persecution of the church. So who gets to pick and choose after which event does the "immediately" stand for?

Mark states that tribulation just after false prophets and false teachers. Neither chapter explicitly state the Second Coming is after thee GT. The Second Coming could be after the persecution of the church. The Second Coming could be after the AoD. The Second Coming could be after Jacob's trouble which is the GT. Or the Second Coming could be after a rash of false prophets and false teachers. Those who claim after which tribulation, know more than Jesus Christ or any other NT author. Because the NT states no one knows after which tribulation the Second Coming happens.

According to Revelation the Second Coming is after tribulation not even mentioned in Matthew and Mark. Revelation never states the persecution of the church. Revelation never covers false prophets and false teachers, except the one FP in conjunction with the AoD. So Revelation does not even stick with the order presented in Matthew nor Mark. The only time of Jacob's trouble or GT mentioned in Revelation, are the first 6 Trumpets.

And if you add Luke 21 into the mix, the Second Coming is any time after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD and the time of the Gentiles with many wars and struggles. That could be after any major conflict.

So despite your constant objection to "churchianity", you yourself adhere to the "churchianity" that calls for a future 7 year time frame, when such a period is never even stated in Scripture not even one time.

Your future is even more twisted than the common 7 year period because you have 3.5 years of AoD and then 3.5 years of GT in that order. That would be your interpretation of Matthew and Mark's presentation of the Olivet Discourse. Even a logical and plausible explanation. In that aspect you do go against "churchianity". Unfortunately also most of Scripture relating to eschatology as well.

Not even Daniel 9 states the AoD is in the first half of a week, but set up in the midst or middle of a week. But both you and "churchianity" both claim a 7 year week. You prefer Matthew and Mark over Daniel 9:27, but change the standard interpretation of that verse placing the AoD in the first half and the GT in the second half which is opposite the normal interpretation.

You then keep confusing other posters by declaring a LAST DAY of the earth, but contradict your own point by saying a thousand years takes place after that LAST DAY.

 

[3 Resurrections]

Nice try, but the "great tribulation" Jesus showed is for the very END of this world, and still is yet to happen.

Even WWI and WWII were WORSE TIMES than the 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem and the temple by the little ole' Roman army under Titus. And WWI and WWII still were not the coming "great tribulation" event.

Sorry, but Matthew disagrees with you. The "Great Tribulation" which Christ described in Matthew 24 would not take place at the end of the world. That is because Christ said that there would not be a comparable tribulation such as that "great tribulation" either before or afterward in history; "No, nor ever shall be", in history following that period of great tribulation. History for mankind after the "Great Tribulation" would continue to flow with regular episodes of tribulation, but none of which were going to be like the kind of tribulation that the first-century generation of Israelites had experienced.

The typical misunderstanding is that Christ was speaking of an unequalled level of atrocities or bloodshed, or amount of casualties. That is not what Christ said. He said that there had never been and would never be "SUCH AS" this particular KIND or TYPE of tribulation to be replicated afterward. That unique type of tribulation was the entire realm of unclean spirits coming to plague the inhabitants of Jerusalem, as being imprisoned with them inside the city of Jerusalem. No city or nation had ever experienced this before, and never would again afterward, since God was going to destroy the entire Satanic realm by the close of AD 70.

The Roman army under Titus was the least of Old Jerusalem's problems in the AD 66-70 period of "Great Tribulation".

 

[covenantee]

Nice try, but the "great tribulation" Jesus showed is for the very END of this world, and still is yet to happen.

Even WWI and WWII were WORSE TIMES than the 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem and the temple by the little ole' Roman army under Titus. And WWI and WWII still were not the coming "great tribulation" event.

Thus your Preterist theories from men do not work.

Your futurized fantasies and fallacies fail. The tribulation of 70 AD is unsurpassed before or since.

From the Jewish Virtual LIbrary:

"The highly embittered refugees who succeeded in escaping the Galilean massacres fled to the last major Jewish stronghold—Jerusalem. There, they killed anyone in the Jewish leadership who was not as radical as they. Thus, all the more moderate Jewish leaders who headed the Jewish government at the revolt's beginning in 66 were dead by 68—and not one died at the hands of a Roman. All were killed by fellow Jews."

"While the Romans would have won the war in any case, the Jewish civil war both hastened their victory and immensely increased the casualties. One horrendous example: In expectation of a Roman siege, Jerusalem's Jews had stockpiled a supply of dry food that could have fed the city for many years. But one of the warring Zealot factions burned the entire supply, apparently hoping that destroying this "security blanket" would compel everyone to participate in the revolt. The starvation resulting from this mad act caused suffering as great as any the Romans inflicted."

Give just one example from WW1 or WW2 where Jews made war, and inflicted immense casualties, upon themselves.

Ask any historically aware Jew whether he would prefer perishing in a gas chamber; or crucified on a cross with multiple other victims.

Tell us what he says.

 

[TribulationSigns]

The scriptures show us just how demonic possession had saturated the nation of Israel in the first century.

Show us the chapter and verse. And I am more than sure that the Scripture does not say about "demonic possession" in nation Israel.

Christ sent out 70 individuals into the various cities of Israel to which He would be coming, and they ALL returned rejoicing with the news that the demons were subject to them in Christ's name (Luke 10:17).

No. This is not what you think Luke 10 talked about. Read the context carefully:
Luke 10:1-4

• "After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
• Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
• Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
• Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way."

In other words, Christ sends them into the field as laborers unto the harvest, without purse for money, nor a script (bag) for food, nor expensive shoes on their feet (just sandals), and yet the seventy (10 times 70, 2 by 2). The number 10 signifies fullness of whatever is in view. The number 7 signifies complete. The number 2 signifies truth. They lacked nothing and even the evil spirits could not harm them. That is a picture of the true sovereignty of God over all of them. They didn't need the world's shoes, the world's coat, the world's money or bread, they had all these things Spiritually, which was much better. They needed neither script nor purse nor sword. Christ was telling them that the spirits of devils couldn't harm them, as in fact they had been given the power to rule over these in Christ. Indeed the seventy reported this themselves upon their return.

Luke 10:17-20

• "And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
• And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
• Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
• Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven."

The evil spirits of devils were subject to them, they had nothing to fear from the power of Satan (the enemy), because they were truly children of God whose names were indelibly written in the book of life. The spiritual picture of the 70, sent out "two by two" is the power of the church through the name of Christ. This is the picture of the great commission of the church.

Acts 19:13-16 also mentions the "vagabond Jews", the seven sons of Sceva, a chief priest, who were attempting exorcisms.

Christ also asked the Pharisees by whom their sons were casting out devils (Matt. 12:27). Demonic possession seemed to be a quite common plague in Israel in those days.

Christ promised that in its "last state", that "wicked generation" would be plagued with demonic possession seven times more manifold and more wicked than in its "first state" when He had been casting out devils from those in Israel (Matthew 12:43-45). This happened in the years from AD 66-70 during the "Great Tribulation" period. At no other time in history either before or after that would a city experience having "every unclean spirit" imprisoned as they were in Jerusalem (Rev. 18:2).

The Great Tribulation was going to be "wrath upon THIS PEOPLE" the Israelites in the land of Judea.

Enough of this nonsense. You got everything wrong, purely speculations.

Now tell me, in Revelation 20, when did Satan cast into the bottomless pit for 1,000 years and when will Satan be loosened in your flawed 70AD doctrine anyway?

 

[3 Resurrections]

Enough of this nonsense. You got everything wrong, purely speculations.

TS, if you can't see Christ and His disciples all casting out devils from all those cities they went to, then you have a serious problem with reading comprehension. The context surrounding this Luke 10 chapter is replete with the subject of devils being cast out of individuals in Israel. Even the unnamed person which was casting out devils in Luke 9:49 that wasn't even operating among Christ's immediate circle of disciples - this man was also engaged in the same activity in Israel. The 70 going out commissioned by Christ not only were not harmed by these unclean spirits, they also were able to command them to depart from people. This was the same activity which the twelve disciples were doing in Matthew 10:8, when they were commanded to "cast out devils".

Paul took this power over unclean spirits up another notch in Acts 19:11-12 with the special miracles God granted to be done by him. It only took handkerchiefs or aprons dispensed from Paul's person to have the evil spirits go out of the recipients of those articles.

It is without doubt that during that first century period, demonic possession was prevalent in Israel. It would only get worse before that first-century generation had passed away. Christ promised that plague of ramped-up demonic possession would come for His own "wicked generation", and it came true in the AD 66-70 period when Jerusalem was saturated with "every unclean spirit" being imprisoned within the city. I believe Christ's and the scriptures' predictions of this, whether you do or not.

Now tell me, in Revelation 20, when did Satan cast into the bottomless pit for 1,000 years and when will Satan be loosened in your flawed 70AD doctrine anyway?

Scripture texts combine to give us the timing for this, whether you acknowledge them or not.

The literal one thousand millennium years of Rev. 20 when Satan's deception of the nations was bound lasted from 968/967 BC until AD 33.

 

[TribulationSigns]

TS, if you can't see Christ and His disciples all casting out devils from all those cities they went to, then you have a serious problem with reading comprehension.

No, it is you who not only lacks reading comprehension but also spiritual understanding.

Like you, many who don't even understand WHY all the miracles were done in the first place, much less have the ability to elucidate why they might continue today. Miracles were done as signs, as living significations, pictographs, symbols, tokens, or as shadows of things to come. It is gleaned from Scripture that the purpose of Jesus and certain disciples performing exorcisms (and also any other miracle) was for those great wonders to be an indicator of the deeper spiritual truths in the action of the miracle of salvation. With this "particular" miracle of the evil spirit being cast out of a person, it was to signify the work and authority of Christ to have dominion or rule over these evil spirits. And that He gives this same authority over them to ALL His people, through His Holy Spirit revealed in the preaching of the gospel that many would be loosed from this power of darkness that they had been subject to in these evil spirits (Hebrews 2:14-15) all their lives. In Christ they now rule and have dominion instead of being ruled over.

Colossians 1:13

• "Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:"

This signifies that we have gone from servitude to the unrighteous spirit who ruled us in one kingdom, to servitude to the Holy Spirit who now rules us in another kingdom. One spirit is cast out and another comes to make His abode with us through regeneration. Selah! These miracles of casting out devils were a token of this cleansing of the elect from that unclean spirit that controlled them through bondage to sin, to the Spirit of the washing of regeneration that saves us from sin (Titus 3:5). In His casting out the evil one through His death and resurrection for us we then have a new Spirit (Ezekiel 11:19; 36:26)where these evil spirits are now subject to us. That is to say, the unclean spirits have no more power to rule in God's people because they are now ruled by the authority of Christ that is now within them. As it is also "signified" in Luke chapter ten:

Luke 10:16-18

• "He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
• And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
• And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."

Instead of being subject to the evil spirit within us, through the Living WORD they preached as its witness by the gospel, those spirits are now subject to us through the power we have in reigning (Revelation 5:10) together with Him as Kings and Priests unto God (Ephesians 2:5-6). These miracles showed Christ’s dominion over the demons (Luke 10:17) and also verified that the disciples were acting in His name and by His authority. This act was a show of God's magnificent salvation plan, just as ALL the other miracles Christ did illustrate.

Look at Roman Catholic Church for example. Their practice of "exorcism" is no more Biblically valid as their practice of Priestly authorities of men to forgive sins against God, or that of substantial presence, or special canonized saints above others, or absolution by Holy water, purgatory or a host of other practices and doctrines that have no sound basis in Scripture. These are all misinterpretations of the texts of scripture, not practices that can be justified by Scripture. It's not as simple as "Jesus and the Disciples did it, why can't we?"

2nd Timothy 2:15

• "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

No, it's not as simple as just reading it and therefore assuming we can do it today. Just because we read that the Apostle Paul raised Eutychu from the dead, doesn't mean that Christians today can physically raise people from the dead. Duh! When we make erroneous assumptions, we come to false conclusions...just like your preterism doctrine! And that is what some Christians do. They took a great leap of faith, and unfortunately, it wasn't the faith of Christ.

And no, Christ's casting the spirit does had NOTHING to do with assuming there were more people with evil spirits gathered together in Jersualem in history of the world to justify being destroyed in 70AD as your phony doctrine suggested!

The context surrounding this Luke 10 chapter is replete with the subject of devils being cast out of individuals in Israel. Even the unnamed person which was casting out devils in Luke 9:49 that wasn't even operating among Christ's immediate circle of disciples - this man was also engaged in the same activity in Israel. The 70 going out commissioned by Christ not only were not harmed by these unclean spirits, they also were able to command them to depart from people. This was the same activity which the twelve disciples were doing in Matthew 10:8, when they were commanded to "cast out devils".
Paul took this power over unclean spirits up another notch in Acts 19:11-12 with the special miracles God granted to be done by him. It only took handkerchiefs or aprons dispensed from Paul's person to have the evil spirits go out of the recipients of those articles.

It is without doubt that during that first century period, demonic possession was prevalent in Israel. It would only get worse before that first-century generation had passed away. Christ promised that plague of ramped-up demonic possession would come for His own "wicked generation", and it came true in the AD 66-70 period when Jerusalem was saturated with "every unclean spirit" being imprisoned within the city. I believe Christ's and the scriptures' predictions of this, whether you do or not.

Scripture texts combine to give us the timing for this, whether you acknowledge them or not.

The literal one thousand millennium years of Rev. 20 when Satan's deception of the nations was bound lasted from 968/967 BC until AD 33.

You don't get it.

First...what Christian today can create wine instantly from water? What Christian today can walk on water? What Christian today can feed 5000 people with a few fish and some bread crumbs? Likewise, what Christian can cast out a devils, or even know what a Demon looks like, or sounds like, to even know he's been cast out? There are very few Christians who will go out and pick up a deadly snake knowing they won't be harmed (Mark 16:18). ...and why not--since the Bible says we can and will? It's because as you said, it's not that simple! That is not what Christ was teaching of this sign that would follow those who believe. Likewise with other miracles:

Mark 16:17

• "And these SIGNS shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;"

Casting out devils is the "sign" that shall follow all those that believe. How? Because when they bear witness to the gospel (and they will), then people will become saved through the power of God and the witness of the word. And THAT is casting out devils--THAT is the sign! Not some walking zombies with evil spirits walking into the city that they needed to be casted out or physically destroyed. Gee-whiz!

NO! Being saved is having been set free from bondage to the devil. It is the devil being cast out and the Spirit of Christ coming to dwell within you, making your body its Holy Temple. Get it?! The Devil cannot coexist with Christ in that same Holy Temple (our bodies). He is cast out when Christ comes to abide with you. No servant can serve two masters. Either we are bondservants of Christ or the Devil. One or the other has control over us.

So all of this does not prove your phony interpretations that the Middle Eastern city has to be destroyed because there are too many people with foaming mouths and filled with evil spirits. Seriously, where did you get this absurd idea from?? The unbeliever like Joephus?! As I said, you lack spiritual discernment on what and why with the WORD OF GOD, says Christ did the miracles as an example for us!