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29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. - Romans 8:29.

Have you ever fathomed the idea .. God wanted to dwell in his creation. I'm talking about the new creation, or creation of the human being and placing a part of himself in the sinner, making one new creation. Point being; God's whole desire in creation was? he is a father. Before he was creator God, and the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob..he was a father.. He had fatherhood in him and he would plan before the foundation of the world to birth his own children. Not only birth them.. but that birth would come by a part of the father himself dwelling in his creation. He would birth his only Son in a believing sinner, and be the only life.. constituting a new creature. Literal birthed son's like into his only Son with his nature.

How do we call God father? by Christ in us (born again), and by Christ in us we have a new nature, devine nature of the father. Nature always comes from a father.

He is your father..to the born again creator God is now their father! You ever wonder why in the world Christians go through what they go through. We are being conformed to the image of that one Son. You may never perfect it (soul) but that is what we are here for.. to be conformed to the image of his dear Son.

It is his perfect plan and purpose to place us in Christ - Christ in you! and conform the new creation to new life. They lived the old life..the new life would be the contrast to the old. We knew condemnation, we know all the short comings, we lived a part from God in darkness and we know. Now he is conforming us to his one Son, that we might be called the son's of God.

So you cannot take what you go through lightly. Very important to see through all things in this world to him (Christ) who is our life. The world is God's schoolhouse and should never be looked at as the devils world - or the world is spinning out of control. The only time you say that is when you do not know what your father is doing in the world. He is always working in the world. He is always drawing individuals and people to himself. There is never a time when God is not working in this world for his ultimate plan and purpose.
 

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Hello soul man,

It is amazing how God through Christ reconciled the world unto himself. God so loved the world He sent his Word; namely the Lord Jesus Christ to save the world.

Maybe it’s our natural inclination to desire justice! So we desire for God to come and vindicate the world by the return of Jesus.

The reality to me is that Jesus has already reconciled the world back to his Father with the help of God through Jesus.

God is no longer angry or made at the world for the sins it commits; it was restored when Jesus paid the price for the sin of: not just believers: but all people.

If people could get that in their head they might become more thankful to God in what He has done for the entirety of the world.

God is good; God is love. Jesus was sent and sins of all people where paid for all time. To me we all live in a spiritual garden where people either decide to eat from the tree of knowledge and eat from it or eat from the tree of life (is it called that) the tree of life is that of Jesus who is the new life giver who transforms a person as they willingly walk and desire him.

Which the holt spirit comes into the person, and the spirit of Christ in which now the soul has been healed in part as long as the participant is willingly to be changed.

Having a dual nature now where before without faith was simply one nature which is earthly. The second nature comes from the heavenly the spiritual side of things of good things given by God freely by grace through faith and rewards the person who seeks God out by faith.

The life of the person is changed overtime slowly not always overnight but a slow progressional work of God in their soul which leads to the heart being fixed on the heavenly aspects rather than the earthly ones (though we all partake in them / work, family, food, drink.
 
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You said: "It is his perfect plan and purpose to place us in Christ - Christ in you! and conform the new creation to new life."

i have to think about this because it sounds............................GREAT !!! = count me IN.
 

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Hello soul man,

It is amazing how God through Christ reconciled the world unto himself. God so loved the world He sent his Word; namely the Lord Jesus Christ to save the world.

Maybe it’s our natural inclination to desire justice! So we desire for God to come and vindicate the world by the return of Jesus.

The reality to me is that Jesus has already reconciled the world back to his Father with the help of God through Jesus.

God is no longer angry or made at the world for the sins it commits; it was restored when Jesus paid the price for the sin of: not just believers: but all people.

If people could get that in their head they might become more thankful to God in what He has done for the entirety of the world.

God is good; God is love. Jesus was sent and sins of all people where paid for all time. To me we all live in a spiritual garden where people either decide to eat from the tree of knowledge and eat from it or eat from the tree of life (is it called that) the tree of life is that of Jesus who is the new life giver who transforms a person as they willingly walk and desire him.

Which the holt spirit comes into the person, and the spirit of Christ in which now the soul has been healed in part as long as the participant is willingly to be changed.

Having a dual nature now where before without faith was simply one nature which is earthly. The second nature comes from the heavenly the spiritual side of things of good things given by God freely by grace through faith and rewards the person who seeks God out by faith.

The life of the person is changed overtime slowly not always overnight but a slow progressional work of God in their soul which leads to the heart being fixed on the heavenly aspects rather than the earthly ones (though we all partake in them / work, family, food, drink.

Good word Matthew!
 
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You said: "It is his perfect plan and purpose to place us in Christ - Christ in you! and conform the new creation to new life."

i have to think about this because it sounds............................GREAT !!! = count me IN.

Hey David how is life in the big city! Your already in. :)
 
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Hey David how is life in the big city! Your already in. :)

Yeah Brother - and best part is HE's our Keeper = John 17

"Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You.
Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are."

The prayers of a Righteous Man availeth MUCH - Amen
 

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It’s so important to keep faith, and spiritually connected with God our Father by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Who died for all peoples sins according to scripture, that believers to die with him, and bury their old man or woman and be raised to life with Christ as God raised him from the dead. To stay connected in the spirit!

Gods wisdom is far above the worlds wisdom and how it decides to handle problems. Gods way is much better to follow.
 
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29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. - Romans 8:29.

Have you ever fathomed the idea .. God wanted to dwell in his creation. I'm talking about the new creation, or creation of the human being and placing a part of himself in the sinner, making one new creation. Point being; God's whole desire in creation was? he is a father. Before he was creator God, and the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob..he was a father.. He had fatherhood in him and he would plan before the foundation of the world to birth his own children. Not only birth them.. but that birth would come by a part of the father himself dwelling in his creation. He would birth his only Son in a believing sinner, and be the only life.. constituting a new creature. Literal birthed son's like into his only Son with his nature.

How do we call God father? by Christ in us (born again), and by Christ in us we have a new nature, devine nature of the father. Nature always comes from a father.

He is your father..to the born again creator God is now their father! You ever wonder why in the world Christians go through what they go through. We are being conformed to the image of that one Son. You may never perfect it (soul) but that is what we are here for.. to be conformed to the image of his dear Son.

It is his perfect plan and purpose to place us in Christ - Christ in you! and conform the new creation to new life. They lived the old life..the new life would be the contrast to the old. We knew condemnation, we know all the short comings, we lived a part from God in darkness and we know. Now he is conforming us to his one Son, that we might be called the son's of God.

So you cannot take what you go through lightly. Very important to see through all things in this world to him (Christ) who is our life. The world is God's schoolhouse and should never be looked at as the devils world - or the world is spinning out of control. The only time you say that is when you do not know what your father is doing in the world. He is always working in the world. He is always drawing individuals and people to himself. There is never a time when God is not working in this world for his ultimate plan and purpose.
@soul man What a tremendous chapter is Romans 8! :)