Heresy is defined by scripture. And Christendom uses the scriptures to define heresy. Historically any non trinitarian idea about God is heretical. And the churches teaching otherwise are a cult. Scripture bears this out clearly.
Understanding The HolySpirit
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101G
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according to who?
and two the church, at Pentecost taught God "shared" in flesh, meaning the "OFFSPRING".
even the disciples and the apostles knew this.
Christendom is trinitarian. Anything else calling itself Christian is a cult of Christendom.
101G
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ok, if it's trinitarian, then answer the question. "Who chose Paul then Saul on the Road to Damascus as his MINISTER? was it the one whom you calls the Father or ther Son.
ScottA
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Yes...and yet most will swear by either One only as they are known by them...by their actions or difference, rather than by their Oneness.
101G
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No, I asked which "PERSON" chose Paul, the disciple knew.... how about you.
now was it the "Father" or the "Son". Ananias knew.... (smile).
101G
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Swear by one? "Father" is a title, as well as "Son" of the Same person. one can only swear by one
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101G
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this is where you expose false Doctrine.
if the Name of Jesus is YHWH, then Jesus is the Father.
if the Name of Jesus is YHWH, then Jesus is the Father.
Jesus Christ is the personal name for God who exists at once in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
No, Jesus is God who is comprised of three persons eternally coexisting as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
101G
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ok if this is true let's put it to the test.
Matthew 1:18 "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 1:19 "Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.
Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
#1. is God "Born?". remember you said the Name of God is Jesus christ.
#2. is not the conceiver of a child the Father?. "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost"
ok Dave if the Holy Ghost conceived the Child in Mary who's the FATHER?. answer please.
Matthew 1:18 "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 1:19 "Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.
Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
#1. is God "Born?". remember you said the Name of God is Jesus christ.
#2. is not the conceiver of a child the Father?. "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost"
ok Dave if the Holy Ghost conceived the Child in Mary who's the FATHER?. answer please.
Jesus is God (trinity) with a human body and soul.
JESUS CHRIST
“Jesus Christ” is a composite name made up of the personal name “Jesus” (from Gk Iēsous, which transliterates Heb/Aram yēšû (a)ʿ, a late form of Hebrew yĕhôšûaʿ, the meaning of which is “YHWH is salvation” or “YHWH saves/has saved”) and the title, assimilated in early Christianity to Jesus as a name, “Christ” (from Gk Christos, which translates Heb māšı̂aḥ and Aram mĕšı̂ḥāʾ, signifying “anointed” and referring in the context of eschatological expectation to the royal “son of David”). The name “Jesus Christ” thus binds together the historic figure Jesus with the messianic role and status that early Christian faith attributed to him. In Jesus’ own lifetime, his name, since it was common in Israel, called for a specifier: “Jesus the Galilean” (Matt 26:69; cf.21:11), or, more often, “Jesus of Nazareth” or “Jesus the Nazarean.”
I can see from this point of view why people have become sincere atheists.
In your arbitrariness even the scientific method is left behind. Any good, honest historian knows that written history must be accepted with great caution. Undoubtedly, it contains truth, but who other than God is able to sift out the lies leaving nothing but truth?
You use heresy and Christendom as absolutes, but you cannot define them for anyone without using other prescribed absolutes. Thus it is that God gives us faith, rather than absolute knowledge, as the means to approach Him.
All that the Father gave to Jesus will come to him. And every plant not planted by the Father will be rooted up.
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