Universalism is a dangerous doctrine

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My belief is that our Father has a purpose and a plan for everyone and so they are subjected to different experiences.
Absolutely! Fantastic hey. A tailored life for all, beginning with Adam to the last human ever bought into existence. Our Creator is incredible. All a culmination of His eternal purpose.
 
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My belief is that our Father has a purpose and a plan for everyone and so they are subjected to different experiences.
And then there's the angelic beings probably more importantly. I love that the Creator has a specific plan and purpose for them.

That Satan was given a role in this age which he is carrying out so well. But I can't wait for the time when his role is changed, and we will partner with him to carry out our Creators updated roles for His good pleasure.
 
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And then there's the angelic beings probably more importantly. I love that the Creator has a specific plan and purpose for them.

That Satan was given a role in this age which he is carrying out so well. But I can't wait for the time when his role is changed, and we will partner with him to carry out our Creators updated roles for His good pleasure.
You're gonna be partners with Satan? What's new?
 

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You're gonna be partners with Satan?
For sure. When God reconciles satan to Himself then we will all be in our Creator's kingdom serving Him together. What a victory this will be hey.

I can only imagine what a relief and joy the followers of Jesus must've experienced when their persecutor, the chief of sinners was reconciled to God. The faithful angels joined in the celebrations.

I for one am looking forward to the time when Satan repents and joins us in worshipping and serving the Creator of us all.


What's new?
Lots my friend.
 

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For sure. When God reconciles satan to Himself then we will all be in our Creator's kingdom serving Him together. What a victory this will be hey.
Doctrine of demons!
I can only imagine what a relief and joy the followers of Jesus must've experienced when their persecutor, the chief of sinners was reconciled to God. The faithful angels joined in the celebrations.

I for one am looking forward to the time when Satan repents and joins us in worshipping and serving the Creator of us all.

Lots my friend.
Those demons you're listening to are leading you to Hell fire. Oh that's right, you said you're gonna be in Hell forever and ever anyway. Never mind.
 

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Doctrine of demons!

Jack, was Paul a demonic fraud? Obviously so!

Ephesians 1:9-10
making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
 
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Quoting YOU: "ALL humans have sinned against God and all are going to hell forever and ever."

That's right Jack! Our loving and merciful Lord and Savior will hideously torture the bad people far worse than anything we can imagine without end! I can't wait to break out the popcorn with you so we can watch it happening together and laugh with unbridled joy at their unimaginable suffering!
 

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Jack, was Paul a demonic fraud? Obviously so!

Ephesians 1:9-10
making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
Have you read what Jesus said about THE FIRE? He mentioned it several times. You're trying to save Satan? BILLIONS of humans will be Satan's eternal roommates, in Hell!

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Those who say Satan will be saved are messengers of Satan.
 

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Jack, was Paul a demonic fraud? Obviously so!
No, but those who say Satan will be saved are.
Ephesians 1:9-10
making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
 

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That's right Jack! Our loving and merciful Lord and Savior will hideously torture the bad people far worse than anything we can imagine without end! I can't wait to break out the popcorn with you so we can watch it happening together and laugh with unbridled joy at their unimaginable suffering!
That paints a picture of something Satan would do dont you think. Show no love, no mercy and take pleasure in inflicting and observing ongoing suffering.

The loving Father I've come to know and experience is quite the opposite. He sets prisoners free. Heals the sick. Gives water to the thirsty. Food to the hungry. Gives comfort to those suffering. Takes no pleasure in death of His created ones.

Say unto them: ‘As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live.

So when they do turn from their wickedness and repent, even from the lake of fire, the Lord God will find pleasure in expressing His loving kindness to them. Now that's the God I'm getting to know more and more.
 
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That paints a picture of something Satan would do dont you think. Show no love, no mercy and take pleasure in inflicting and observing ongoing suffering.

The loving Father I've come to know and experience is quite the opposite. He sets prisoners free. Heals the sick. Gives water to the thirsty. Food to the hungry. Gives comfort to those suffering. Takes no pleasure in death of His created ones.

Say unto them: ‘As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live.

So when they do turn from their wickedness and repent, even from the lake of fire, the Lord God will find pleasure in expressing His loving kindness to them. Now that's the God I'm getting to know more and more.
Quoting YOU: "ALL humans have sinned against God and all are going to hell forever and ever."
 

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Have you read what Jesus said about THE FIRE? He mentioned it several times. You're trying to save Satan? BILLIONS of humans will be Satan's eternal roommates, in Hell!

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Those who say Satan will be saved are messengers of Satan.
Yes, the fire designed and created by its Creator is everlasting. Once its inhabitants have departed and made their way back to their Creator, it will be empty. Does God repurpose it? God knows.
 

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Yes, the fire designed and created by its Creator is everlasting. Once its inhabitants have departed and made their way back to their Creator, it will be empty. Does God repurpose it? God knows.
You totally contradict yourself. lol

Quoting YOU: "ALL humans have sinned against God and all are going to hell forever and ever."

You really should stop listening to those demons that led you away from the Bible!

Quoting YOU: "Personally I have left Hawaii (bible) and have gone further afield."

And again: "Life with God outside the bible is great!"
 

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Quoting YOU: "ALL humans have sinned against God and all are going to hell forever and ever."
It's so fulfilling to watch a movie or read a book to its end as the introduction does not paint the fuller story with all its twists and turns. And most of all, the happy ending. It seems you aren't interested in hearing the fuller story of God's love for us. Yet I'm MORE than happy to spell it out, shout it from the rooftops that all have sinned, the wages of sin is death and in Adam all die. For this is according to work of the evil one. BUT the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus Who is the second Adam. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But we all, with uncovered face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image, from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Yes, we who once had fallen short of the glory of God (as seen at the beginning of the movie) we are changed into the GLORY of our Lord, from GLORY to GLORY!
 
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It's so fulfilling to watch a movie or read a book to its end as the introduction does not paint the fuller story with all its twists and turns. And most of all, the happy ending. It seems you aren't interested in hearing the fuller story of God's love for us. Yet I'm MORE than happy to spell it out, shout it from the rooftops that all have sinned, the wages of sin is death and in Adam all die. For this is according to work of the evil one. BUT the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus Who is the second Adam. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But we all, with uncovered face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image, from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Yes, we who once had fallen short of the glory of God (as seen at the beginning of the movie) we are changed into the GLORY of our Lord, from GLORY to GLORY!
Well you said you will be in Hell forever and ever. I hope you're wrong.
 

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It's so fulfilling to watch a movie or read a book to its end as the introduction does not paint the fuller story with all its twists and turns. And most of all, the happy ending. It seems you aren't interested in hearing the fuller story of God's love for us. Yet I'm MORE than happy to spell it out, shout it from the rooftops that all have sinned, the wages of sin is death and in Adam all die. For this is according to work of the evil one. BUT the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus Who is the second Adam. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But we all, with uncovered face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image, from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Yes, we who once had fallen short of the glory of God (as seen at the beginning of the movie) we are changed into the GLORY of our Lord, from GLORY to GLORY!
I was just reminded of this hymn, oldie but a goodie.

I love to tell the story
of unseen things above,
of Jesus and His glory,
of Jesus and His love.
I love to tell the story
because I know it's true.
it satisfies my longings
as nothing else can do.

I love to tell the story!
'Twill be my theme in glory
to tell the old, old story
of Jesus and His love.